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kev
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 17, 2009 - 08:19pm PT
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Dear as#@&%e, nutjob, computer bot, troll,
Please stop PMing me!
Take your meds...Have a beer, yank one off, do what it takes but get a life!
All,
Below is the fine rambling of the dickhead!
Greetings from a Fellow SuperTopo Member!
This message has been sent from a fellow registered SuperTopo climbing member to you.
The message is:
Update:
http://besaw.webs.com/contact.htm
I have a trial coming up soon. The case has
been in court for over 3 years.
Bryce
Sent by: 4damages <brycees@hushmail.com>
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 08:32pm PT
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Locker,
Nah, they never make sense. Last time he (he,she, it, who knows) got pissy that I posted his email address on here. He emailed me asking me to delete the post. That's how I figured out nav4blk was midacockjock (the email address was a dead giveaway). Just annoying....
One day I'll post up his email addresses on some nefarious computer forums.
Mucci told me he emailed him one day and ask if Mucci had anyone's taco logins and passwords. I wish Mucci had saved that email.
Glad to here your daughter is doing better BTW.
kev
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4damages
climber
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Nov 17, 2009 - 08:44pm PT
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You obviously don't work for anybody of any importance.
It's unlawful to expose somebody's name, telephone or email
regardless of what a phone company says about making them
private at cost.
I though that would clarify some of what I previously told you.
You to don't contact me or reply to me anymore!
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4damages
climber
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Nov 17, 2009 - 08:49pm PT
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Yes Charles,
that is what I interpret them as. Most are not intelligent either.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 09:07pm PT
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Locker,
I don't get it so much either.
I suspect it's some automated computer program, some kid who is obviously not from the us given the lack of grammar. Man dude's grammar has to be pretty bad for me to complain about it. Every once in a while he makes pseudo comprehensible posts but usually it's just gibberish.
But it might be a person, so I feel obligated to reply :)
Dear nav-damaged-cock,
Gotta love this....
You wrote "You to don't contact me or reply to me anymore! "
Hmmm let me see...DON'T MESSAGE ME AND I WON'T REPLY TO YOU F*#KFACE ;)
Have a nice evening!
kev
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 17, 2009 - 09:08pm PT
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Charles,
Popcorn and beer! I am here to amuse...
kev
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 17, 2009 - 10:14pm PT
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Maybe it's
Oh No .... "Rajmit"
Hahahaha
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 17, 2009 - 10:27pm PT
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I get the impression that nav4blk doesn't alway inhabit the shared world view that society regards as normal.
Perhaps that's something to take into consideration.
Is this thread really necessary?
Peace
Karl
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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Nov 17, 2009 - 10:36pm PT
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Perhaps that's something to take into consideration.
Is this thread really necessary?
Karl, if he's bombarding your mail with bizarre stuff...maybe.
He could just be a lonely intel operative though. One that climbs.
I still suspect data-mining though.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Nov 17, 2009 - 11:09pm PT
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One of Kev's many cyber-stalkers.
Some are pretty spooky
This one is weaksauce.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 17, 2009 - 11:20pm PT
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I think he's real.
The email I got from him pertained to a recent event here.
He also asked me how they hire here and what/who to go for applying.
But ultimately ????????
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2009 - 02:41am PT
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Karl,
Sure my post isn't exactly the most friendly (although I did try to make it humorous) but I've been getting weird, unsolicited annoying emails, often with an underlying not so nice tone from the as#@&%e via tacostand msgs for a while now. Seems to me like this is an appropriate place to mention it (what else am I going to do email him from a normal account and get a sh#t load of spam on that email address from f*#kface). Apparently I'm not the only one who gets these emails. It's not you who gets the messages I do from him so I'm not so sure how you can conclude that this post isn't necesary.
Personally I think all the political threads are unnecessary on a climbing forum, and this (damaged-nav-cock-f*#k's emails) clearly (to me at least) has a direct connection to this forum since the asswipe contacts me via this forum. So to me this seems more on topic than political stuff. Yet that is my opinion - right or wrong (wait it's an opinion so it can abtain neither right or wrong status).....
Anyhow I'll make you a deal! If you only post climbing related stuff then I'll quite all my (few) non-climbing posts...
If you're not in to that trade then I think you've got a big double standard and should perhaps get off your high horse on this. Also I really really really doubt he's not all there. If you think that's the case, then perhaps you should try to help him rather than chastise a poor victim such as myself - WTF?
kev
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C. Small wall climber.
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Nov 18, 2009 - 02:46am PT
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kev, have you sent CMac this information, with examples of the offending messages? He might be willing to block or cut off those particular users, for what that's worth.
It's possible that he/she/it is spamming everyone, but that many of our servers are filtering it out before we see it.
I agree that nav4blk, midarockjock, and 4damages' posts are bizarre.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2009 - 02:57am PT
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Yeah but what the point? We can be assured that he has many other names here. So this get's blocked an another starts? Hell the taco stand has been kinda boring lately.
It's actually funny - if you are willing to spend 5 minutes on looking into those who've posted on this thread you can find a troll. Perhaps the same troll. Hint - he's very social...
kev
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Stewart Johnson
climber
t.c. ca.
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Nov 18, 2009 - 09:54am PT
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its probably ashley blue, kev.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 18, 2009 - 10:16am PT
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Kev wrote
"Anyhow I'll make you a deal! If you only post climbing related stuff then I'll quite all my (few) non-climbing posts...
If you're not in to that trade then I think you've got a big double standard and should perhaps get off your high horse on this. Also I really really really doubt he's not all there. If you think that's the case, then perhaps you should try to help him rather than chastise a poor victim such as myself - WTF?
kev"
Kev
I've corresponded with nav4blk before in the past. I tried to be short, helpful but minimal and he stopped emailing me after a while. I don't think there is anything malevolent about the guy but get the clear impression that while intelligent in many ways, that his state of mind would be considered by mental health professionals as needing care. If you really think he doesn't have issues with what's real, you haven't been reading carefully.
If you saw a homeless PTSD vet raving a bit on a street corner, perhaps you'd be bothered but have the compassion not to call him out on his behavior publicly, just as you wouldn't make fun of people's handicaps of other sorts.
If you haven't asked him via the email function on supertopo to leave you alone but went straight to telling him to FU on supertopo, you could probably use a deep breath and some introspection about your own actions
I'm not asking if your post was unnecessary because I think it is off-topic or takes up space, but rather because I think slamming somebody publicly who may have a problem, particularly if you haven't gone through other channels first, is not the best behavior as a human.
Peace
Karl
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okie
Trad climber
San Leandro, Ca
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Nov 18, 2009 - 11:35am PT
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I agree with Karl. Posting something here that someone sent you in private is ethically questionable.
Calling them out, pointing them out as potentially a problem is of course acceptable. They can defend themselves and their activities if they desire.
IMHO
Peace brothers
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jstan
climber
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Nov 18, 2009 - 11:39am PT
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Well said Karl.
Over the past year year or so it has been quite apparent some sort of problem has been developing.
There but for the toss of a coin go us all.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2009 - 12:47pm PT
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Karl,
Aren't you glossing over the following,
"Mucci told me he emailed him one day and ask if Mucci had anyone's taco logins and passwords. I wish Mucci had saved that email."
That seem really bogus doesn't it.
Additionally this isn't a new problem with him and he has been made aware of my desire for him not to contact me before. Hell I outed nav4blk = midarock on this forum before the same why (a 'little' nicer the first time).
Hell dude is harassing me by contacting me from a public forum and you think It's bogus to call him out here? This is his means of contacting me. If I email him back then I have to go and create a special email just for him so my regular email doesn't get loaded with spam. Nah I think not I'll out him on the place he used to contact me.
Seems fair to me...
I really doubt any of us know with any certainty what his deal is. Could be a real nutjob, could be some jerk, could be a computer bot, could be some combination of the above. Basically I don't care at this point. I highly doubt it's an actually person with ptsd, but he if it is I'm in the wrong. Problem is there's no way you can discern if that is or isn't the case, and I don't believe it is...Thus I'm happy with what I wrote and why.
kev
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 18, 2009 - 12:49pm PT
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You're going about it the right way kev, I'm with ya .....
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Nov 18, 2009 - 01:52pm PT
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Weaksauce
The last time Kev and I outed this fool he vanished. No emails, no stalking etc...
Publicly outing a hacker is fair game. For all of you who say it's tactless and ethically questionable to do so are just feeding the little pecker.
The next time homey asks me to hand over some taco emails I'll tell him to start a relationship with a few of you who posted above.
Mucci
Karl- He obviously doesn't like harassing you, it turns into a rehab event for him.
He knows he has no life, those who reply concerned to his emails only perpetuate the issue with this tool.
Mucci
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 18, 2009 - 01:59pm PT
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"Hell dude is harassing me by contacting me from a public forum and you think It's bogus to call him out here? This is his means of contacting me. If I email him back then I have to go and create a special email just for him so my regular email doesn't get loaded with spam. Nah I think not I'll out him on the place he used to contact me."
I haven't seen anything that indicates he thinks he is harassing you. Looks like he sent you emails and you don't like them because they are nutty and weird.
You don't have to set up a special email account to email him. Just send him a message via his supertopo profile. That uses the email that he is already able to send messages to you by.
Kev wrote
"Aren't you glossing over the following,
"Mucci told me he emailed him one day and ask if Mucci had anyone's taco logins and passwords. I wish Mucci had saved that email."
That seem really bogus doesn't it.
Additionally this isn't a new problem with him and he has been made aware of my desire for him not to contact me before. Hell I outed nav4blk = midarock on this forum before the same why (a 'little' nicer the first time). "
Sure it's bogus if he emailed that to Mucci. I'm already suggesting he has a problem but hey, this is a third hand accusation that you don't have evidence or context for. You say he has "he has been made aware of my desire for him not to contact me before" but you write that for the first time before my post questioned your methods. Why didn't you write "I asked him not to contact me before?"
I have to guess that you didn't. Instead you created a public thread calling him an as#@&%e, a dickhead, and telling him to f*#k off. What's the worst thing he emailed you? and this is the way you choose to tell him directly not to contact you?
I think he's mentally confused and his posts on the taco make that plain enough. What's your excuse?
Peace
Karl
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 18, 2009 - 02:04pm PT
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I think Karl is onto something.
I have no problem with giving an as#@&%e a well-deserved comeuppance, but I think this person has some very serious problems. Unwanted e-mails are, well, unwanted. But after reading through several of his posts I think this person is going through some really painful sh#t and needs some patience.
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mucci
Trad climber
The pitch of Bagalaar above you
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Nov 18, 2009 - 02:13pm PT
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It's all a bunch of BS.
He has roped you suckers in and now you think he is mentally challenged?
Come on! It's just a keyboard jizfest he plays with himself at your expense.
It's probably a 15 yr old pubescent crank yanker living in orange county.
What a horrible existence this person has chosen for themselves.
Oh wait...no more emails.....Huh
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dirtbag
climber
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Nov 18, 2009 - 02:16pm PT
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Well maybe he is wanking us along.
But I've seen a lot of his posts over several months and have interacted with him, and I think he's truly quite ill.
In any case, what's the harm in handling this on the down low, just in case he really is ill? Ask Chris to give him the boot, limit his privileges, or whatever, and let things occur behind the scenes.
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 18, 2009 - 02:34pm PT
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"But I've seen a lot of his posts over several months and have interacted with him, and I think he's truly quite ill."
yup, anybody who has paid attention to the Nav4blk personality or interacted behind the scences might testify that he got a struggle going on within.
Mucci, read over some of his posts via
http://www.supertopo.com/inc/view_forum.php?cur=200&dcid=PT08NTk5OyE
which tracks the NAV4BLK persona. If you think he's a 15 year old, you haven't been paying attention.
Regardless, there has been more hostility directed at him in this one thread, than he has directed toward anyone in his whole posting history. He doesn't call people dickheads or tell them to f*#koff even when he receives such abuse.
I'm not trying to get on ya'lls back about this, just a heads up that perhaps you are assuming he has malintent when something is really going on
when you start confronting people who already suffer paranoia, it just causes more problems
Peace
Karl
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 18, 2009 - 03:23pm PT
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Karl,
I'm not going to defend myself with all the details of my taco stalkings. I'm the victim here. Perhaps you should have a chat with your friend.
Also you appear to be clueless to the fact that I don't think he's mentally ill - and you think he is. Well we have a difference of opinion on that. I think you've got it wrong...Neither of us are mental health professionals, but as someone who grew up dealing with an generally untreated paranoid schizophrenic I think I've got just a tad more years of experience with recognizing it than you...
Why don't you reread this last bit I wrote...
"I really doubt any of us know with any certainty what his deal is. Could be a real nutjob, could be some jerk, could be a computer bot, could be some combination of the above. Basically I don't care at this point. I highly doubt it's an actually person with ptsd, but he if it is I'm in the wrong. Problem is there's no way you can discern if that is or isn't the case, and I don't believe it is...Thus I'm happy with what I wrote and why.
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Werner,
Thanks - It seems an appropriate place to me.
kev
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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Nov 18, 2009 - 04:05pm PT
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Kev
I'm sure you and he agree on one thing, that he isn't ill.
Still don't think he has shown any bile or malevolence to justify the profane abuses.
If you are cool with your actions, they are yours to live with.
We are all crazy a bit so I don't want be be bagging on you for bagging on him.
I was unsettled by the emails as well but didn't need a thread like this to stop them
PEace
Karl
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Nov 18, 2009 - 05:51pm PT
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Locker - I notice you always put the word threads in quotation marks, as if this use of the word is foreign to you.
Perhaps this will help: (from dictionary.com)
Thread
–noun
1. a fine cord of flax, cotton, or other fibrous material spun out to considerable length, esp. when composed of two or more filaments twisted together.
2. twisted filaments or fibers of any kind used for sewing.
3. one of the lengths of yarn forming the warp or weft of a woven fabric.
4. a filament or fiber of glass or other ductile substance.
5. Ropemaking.
a. any of a number of fibers twisted into a yarn.
b. a yarn, esp. as enumerated in describing small stuff.
6. something having the fineness or slenderness of a filament, as a thin continuous stream of liquid, a fine line of color, or a thin seam of ore: a thread of smoke.
7. the helical ridge of a screw.
8. that which runs through the whole course of something, connecting successive parts: I lost the thread of the story.
9. something conceived as being spun or continuously drawn out, as the course of life fabled to be spun, measured, and cut by the Fates.
10. Computers. a series of newsgroup messages dealing with the same subject.
11. threads, Slang. clothes.
Regarding the subject of this thread, sending harassing emails is way over the top, and should knott be tolerated...
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4damages
climber
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Nov 18, 2009 - 08:22pm PT
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mucci (weak?),
I have limited time with only 2 semesters of required electives which
were Unix networking related. The remaining CS degree is not info
related it was internal structures and design. Then I studied black
mass physics along with guidance.
There is a biblical technical warning. A man of deception and a man of
bloodshed god detest and, thou shall destroy. You either get this as a
engineer and technologist or you are not one of these. These other
systems are not internet related and cyber stalking does not apply, nor
do I cyber stalk.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Nov 18, 2009 - 09:11pm PT
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There is a biblical technical warning. A man of deception and a man of
bloodshed, thou shall destroy. Whoa! That sent a chill down my spine...
I'm outta here!
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4damages
climber
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Nov 19, 2009 - 11:41am PT
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Charles,
What if the someone is supporting that mother 100% while she is not
reporting that or her other aid?
I have been self supportive since 18 years of age. Mom and dad
never paid for a single vehicle or home of mine that I have purchased
and I din't live with them either after that age.
Hardman Knott,
I re-edited the previous post to write it more verbatim.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2009 - 12:02pm PT
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I really don't care just stop msging me!
kev
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midarockjock
climber
USA
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Nov 19, 2009 - 05:40pm PT
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TGT,
No I had yahoo account problems and I have had nothing to do with them
since.
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4damages
climber
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Nov 19, 2009 - 05:47pm PT
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Charles,
I also decided on my own major and paid for my own college which makes
sense does it not? Tax right offs for kids and college end at 19 regardless
whether they are living with their parents or not.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 19, 2009 - 05:48pm PT
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Midicock,
Yeah right so there are 2 people who send annoying, unfriendly, nefarious at best, legal messages to me from the taco but they're different people. I suppose you've got some great ski land to sell me in the everglades. Don't insult my intelligence.
kev
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midarockjock
climber
USA
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Nov 19, 2009 - 05:52pm PT
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TGT,
I hope your not kev. kev was told to no longer speak to I, nor do I
speak to kev.
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Barcus
Social climber
San Luis Obispo, Ca.
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Nov 19, 2009 - 06:06pm PT
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Then get off his effin thread A-hole!
Marcus
Evil too!
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James Doty
Trad climber
Idyllwild, Ca.
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Nov 20, 2009 - 10:19pm PT
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"No I had yahoo account problems and I have had nothing to do with them
since."
Yeah, it is a Yahoo problem... right.
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ß Î Ø T Ç H
climber
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Nov 21, 2009 - 01:01am PT
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A mod' might want to pull the plug on this .
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midarockjock
climber
USA
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Nov 23, 2009 - 01:07pm PT
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I don't mind if this thread is taken out.
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