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Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 11:17am PT
Here's a more developed GSA paper from 2007 that you could sink your teeth into. Not paywalled.

Driving mechanism and 3-D circulation of plate tectonics

A conceptual shift is overdue in geodynamics. Popular models that present plate tectonics as being driven by bottom-heated whole-mantle convection, with or without plumes, are based on obsolete assumptions, are contradicted by much evidence, and fail to account for observed plate interactions. Subduction-hinge rollback is the key to viable mechanisms. The Pacific spreads rapidly yet shrinks by rollback, whereas the subduction-free Atlantic widens by slow mid-ocean spreading. These and other first- order features of global tectonics cannot be explained by conventional models. The behavior of arcs and the common presence of forearc basins on the uncrumpled thin leading edges of advancing arcs and continents are among features indicating that subduction provides the primary drive for both upper and lower plates. Subduction rights the density inversion that is produced when asthenosphere is cooled to oceanic lithosphere: plate tectonics is driven by top-down cooling but is enabled by heat. Slabs sink more steeply than they dip and, if old and dense, are plated down on the 660 km discontinuity. Broadside-sinking slabs push all sublithosphere oceanic upper mantle inward, forcing rapid spreading in shrinking oceans. Down-plated slabs are overpassed by advancing arcs and plates, and thus transferred to enlarging oceans and backarc basins. Plate motions make sense in terms of this subduction drive in a global framework in which the ridge-bounded Antarctic plate is fixed: most subduc- tion hinges roll back in that frame, plates move toward subduction zones, and ridges migrate to tap fresh asthenosphere. This self-organizing kinematic system is driven from the top. Slabs probably do not subduct into, nor do plumes rise to the upper mantle from, the sluggish deep mantle.
ydpl8s

Trad climber
Santa Monica, California
Sep 11, 2014 - 11:20am PT
I knew a colleague that had Doctorate from Univ. of Alaska (thesis on blue schist metamorphism) that was totally sold on "The Expanding Earth" theory by the Australian Carey. He gave me a copy of Carey's book published in the 70's.

Pretty clever way to explain alternative reasons for observed phenomena, but doesn't hold much water with our current GPS and interferometry data.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 11:22am PT
So if this is the case the mag striping should get closer together as one gets farther from the spreading center, to accommodate the compression? Is this the case? Do you know if anyone has looked into this?

I'm not sure if that follows. The spreading would be not just from distant pulling but also some from upwelling below, except the upwelling (per AN14) is upper mantle that's been displaced or shoved inward by sinking slab.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 11:31am PT
I don't understand this rollback reference.

Imagine the plate as a heavy but somewhat flexible slab that starts to sink at one edge. That edge goes deeper and deeper at an angle (until it flattens out at about 660km, apparently) while farther-back parts stay horizontal, so there is a hinge between the two. That hinge rolls back into the interior of the plate, and more sinking occurs at the edge. As the hinge rolls back it pushes mantle into the interior, and also pulls the overriding plate forwards, both of which cause spreading/extension somewhere.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 11:33am PT
The authors made the case that the bottom layer of this part of the Sierra simply broke off and sank, and the overlying continental crust was simply unbounded. They claimed to have seismic evidence of this sinking slab.

I haven't seen that particular idea but the neo-paradigm papers mention delamination as part of the process, perhaps that fits in.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
We can go back to at least 2004 for proof positive that the HEB is not tied to a fixed hot spot.

There has long been proof that the magmatism is not from a fixed spot, but the paper you cite is one of a long string of work-arounds as hotspot conjectures faced falsification. Hotspots are fixed! No, that's impossible. OK, hotspots move!

But think for a minute, if it's thousands of kilometers of hot rock piping up from deep mantle or core, how on Earth does that maintain its hot narrow pipe while waving around freely through cooler denser mantle on all sides?

The simpler alternative proposed in papers I've cited is that it isn't a hotspot at all, rather a propagating weakness.

Cartoons below, and hundreds more like them, show the original model that was shown to be impossible years ago, and yet still rules the textbooks.




Although I could find many images like the above, finding a cartoon of the contrarian view is much harder. They don't seem to have entrained all the artists. Closest I came in a quick search is this Cocos/N America image borrowed from Gillian Foulger's Powerpoint on www.mantleplumes.org.

Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:11pm PT
Like a crack across ice, it can turn on a dime.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:13pm PT
I've seen asteroid impact as a suggestion for the origins of the Yellowstone weak spot. :)

I dunno about Yellowstone, but will come back to this idea from a surprising new angle in about a month.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:20pm PT
The conjecture for these zone of propagating weakness is as tenuous as it is for a long slender magma-pipe from the core/mantle boundary.

No, for one thing that conjecture actually fits all the evidence we have, while a hotspot fits almost nothing beyond first impressions from a map.

Although I am not yet brave enough to jump entirely off the hotspot bandwagon (it has been a good ride for 25 years and besides, if there was ever a hotspot, you would think that it would be Hawaii), I have to admit that the behavior of the hotspot seems unhotspotlike. It apparently zoomed southwest at high speeds, sometimes going fast and sometimes slower, and screeched to a halt at the time of the Hawaiian-Emperor bend. I suspect something is amiss. Either we are being misled by some of the tectonic or age data, or we do not understand how the Hawaiian-Emperor chain formed. Back to Saturday Night Live: What the hell is that? I don’t know what the hell that thing is!

--from William Sager, Insights Into Motions of the Hawaiian Hotspot from Paleomagnetism.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:25pm PT
FM, here's a bibliography of research on cracks & stress mechanisms for intraplate magmatism. It's a pretty long list.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:31pm PT
OK, I can see you ain't gonna buy it.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:34pm PT
Not me, I'm delighted to have a place to talk about this stuff, after hearing it all my life.

Will shut up here if it gets tiresome, though.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 12:41pm PT
Here is Anderson's Emperor/Hawaii wrapup.

However, a persuasive, alternative model for the Emperor and Hawaiian volcanic chains remains to be fully quantified.

Any satisfactory theory for Hawaiian volcanism must explain (or rationalize) the:

change in migration direction of the melting locus at the bend,
association of the great bend with the Mendocino fracture zone,
change in migration rate at the bend,
apparent commencement of the volcanic chain near a ridge,
absence of a “plume head”,
large variations in magmatic production, and a current magmatic rate about 3 times greater than the next most productive hotspots,
absence of a significant heat flow anomaly,
absence of lithospheric thinning,
absence of a strong high-temperature signal in the erupted basalts,
production of very large volumes of magma even though the depth to the top of the melting column is exceptionally large compared with MORs,
spatial and temporal variation in the composition of erupted lavas on a variety of scales,
remote location of Hawaii, near the center of a very large plate,
location of the oldest end of the chain with respect to the “Pacific pocket”,
unique rift zones,
paired Loa and Kea trends,
seismic whole-mantle mantle structure that is apparently normal compared with the Pacific ocean elsewhere, and
occurrence of a bathymetric swell (a moat and “arch”) along the eastern two-thirds of the Hawaiian chain and wrapping around its southeastern end, with alkalic basaltic volcanism occurring at some places along it.

In conclusion, Hawaii is not fully explained by any current hypothesis. It is impressive that a region of the Earth so extensively studied for so many years, by so many Earth scientists with so many techniques could remain so intransigent to full understanding. Many of the numerous features that are not yet fully understood, and the parameters of alternative hypotheses, are not currently being studied, but they offer exciting research opportunities.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 01:03pm PT
I don't get the impression, however, that the (academic) geology community is firmly married to the "fixed core/mantle plume" origin for hotspots,

No, some have certainly abandoned that for ad hoc variations as all the predictions turned out to be false. This is what Folger is complaining about when she concludes the plume hypothesis has become "unfalsifiable." People can always think up something new.

Or as Hamilton put it,

Various authorities advocate six plumes about the Earth now, or 5000, or some intermediate quantity. All this and more is merely rationalized from the physics-defying starting assumptions.
TwistedCrank

climber
Released into general population, Idaho
Sep 11, 2014 - 02:45pm PT
This will piss off the paleobiologists as well. e.g., http://www.cornellcollege.edu/geology/courses/greenstein/paleo/mantleplume.pdf
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 04:32pm PT
That's funny, TC.

Really I suspect that if any of us consult random experts, they'll assure us Nah, it ain't true. Plumology really is that taken-for-granted and dominant in the field. How many of you first thought of Hawaii as the undisputed proof hotspots are real? Versus how many had heard it had critics, or evidence from every direction that model can't be true?

We'll have to wait a few years, see what happens.
jstan

climber
Sep 11, 2014 - 05:49pm PT
Let's look at the moon. Reportedly the moon initially was very close to the earth, and spinning up at high angular momentum. But it is not a homogeneous body and the center of mass is two km closer to the earth than is its geometric center. So as time went on the moon slowed its rate of rotation and the energy loss was converted to increasing distance from the earth; a presently measured effect. The near side is basaltic maria and lower than the highlands facing space. This would argue we have both thermal and possibly chemical inhomogeneity. Whether correct or not these models provide information of a sort not available for the earth. Lunar volcanoes should be of great interest.

Bottom line, if you want to go to the moon, sooner is better than later.

Correct me as you will.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
Let's look at the moon.

By all means! This thread could definitely go there; I've heard rumors of an Alternative Moon waiting in the wings that's even odder than the Alternative Earth. The ideas are out there in several pieces but a synthesis paper is still in draft form, so we can't cite it yet.

The asymmetry and early closeness that jstan rightly notes are constraints that any Moon model must fit. We could add some others like the almost circular and ecliptic present orbit, similarities in composition and yet low bulk density.

The near side is basaltic maria and lower than the highlands facing space.

A frozen tidal bulge? I think that's one current theory.

Lunar volcanoes should be of great interest.

Yes ... if they exist. The orthodox belief is they do.

Bottom line, if you want to go to the moon, sooner is better than later.

I'm all for that. The country lost its resolve for such big undertakings in the past 40 years, and seems heading for more disarray in the future. It is cool what we're seeing through robot eyes though. This fall's attempted comet landing, and next summer's Pluto flyby, culminate two huge-distance trips into the unknown.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2014 - 07:31pm PT
Definitely Venus is on the tour Dingus, and that new vs old surface question is the centerpiece.
tuolumne_tradster

Trad climber
Leading Edge of North American Plate
Sep 12, 2014 - 12:50am PT


Back in the 1970s AE Ringwood proposed that the sinking slab in subduction zones undergoes a phase transition from basalt to eologite which is denser than the surrounding material and sinks deeply into the mantle.
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