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neebee
Social climber
calif/texas
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Mar 28, 2009 - 02:13am PT
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hey there lynne... wow, say, i had though you sweet dan had died by failing on his own... i did not know that you had to make such a hard dicision... my heart is very much having deep feelings for you having to face this, as to how you must have felt when the time was near at hand... oh my
say, though, it is these very times that the good lord holds that achor fast and you just know that you were at the right place in time, when you finally chose... thus, there is never a regret for your part... thus,you will hold strong, no matter what tries to assail your mind...
god bless, dear gal... carry on in sweet victory of strength and a clean heart, in this...
*ooops, sorry for the little god commercial here, folks... it was for lynne...
carry on... :)
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Jaybro
Social climber
wuz real!
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Mar 28, 2009 - 02:19am PT
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blue, it's not a doubt that there is more, it's an affirmation that there is more right here that you don't need to changes planes to experience.
"If you knew what life was worth,
you would look for your's on earth..."
-Bob Marley
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cintune
climber
the Moon and Antarctica
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Mar 28, 2009 - 04:30pm PT
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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(aside...think that years are not something we need to debate over in the big scheme of things..... Psalm 90 verse 4, "For a thousand years in your sight are like a day tht has just gone by, or like a watch in the night.")
Jstan....just wanted to tell you that after much thought you are right. I do have fear....common fear, simple fear. It's just that I had a Total Terror for heights for so many years that common fear is almost like not any fear at all.
Thanks for your thought provoking posts ..... things that make one analyze and really think through their life. Peace Dude. Lynne
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Karl Baba
Trad climber
Yosemite, Ca
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It's worth mentioning the physical fear of falling, burning and so on is entirely different than psychological fear (of failure, of future events, of loss, and so on)
Also, the comfort of having an explicable worldview applies to science as well as Religion. Everybody takes comfort in thinking their concepts place their existence in some kind of context.
The higher levels of Scientific and Spiritual exploration have the courage to attempt to question the comfort of those assumptions and accept a non-linear, beyond rational, state of not being able to pin down the mystery.
The psychological "Need" for something says little to nothing about the likelihood of it's existence or not.
Peace
Karl
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BASE104
climber
An Oil Field
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If you don't pray in our schools, I won't think in your church.
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High Fructose Corn Spirit
Gym climber
Full Silos of Iowa
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Apr 17, 2011 - 11:35pm PT
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Beliefs (a kind of mental software) are selected (for or against) by evolution based on what they cause to happen - regardless of their truth content.
If a belief in a pink unicorn (e.g., woven into a narrative) causes the holders of this belief (the believers) to outperform, outsurvive, outproduce their rivals, it will propagate.
Evolutionary Belief 101 / Basic Principles
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P.S. -great thread.
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MisterE
Social climber
Cinderella Story, Outa Nowhere
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Apr 17, 2011 - 11:53pm PT
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Maidy's an Athiest. I am an Earth-based religion guy.
We get along fine, it just never comes up. We just each pursue our own avenue in this regard.
Plus, I hear enough about it outside of my primary relationship, it's kind of a relief!
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M. Volland
Trad climber
Grand Canyon
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Apr 18, 2011 - 12:02am PT
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I use to run a TR on Atheist all the time at Church Bowl. The thing is really wicked exiting the crack to the left. If you can make it past that, then you've got to get past the mandatory, non stop cranking to the top. And don't believe the long reach thing. Anyone with some willpower can make the moves at the bottom.
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