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Echo
Trad climber
San Diego, CA.
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Dec 29, 2008 - 02:59am PT
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Tarbuster:
First one looks like a Tyrell...
Dont know what the second is.
The third one is most certainly a Cooper
I agree that F1 is FAR superior to Nascar (which frankly isn't even a form of racing in my opinion... its more of an excuse for rednecks to gather and drink) But what about Le Mans and endurance racing? No love for the 12 and 24 hour races?
Cheers,
Jonas
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 29, 2008 - 09:41am PT
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Dwain the paint scheme looks more like an acid trip! If you can get a car together, I volunteer to be one of yer pit crew. That won't be tire smoke you see as you leave the pits brother! Oh yeah... boogity boogity boogity, let's get high boys!
Peace
Roy those are some great vintage shots you got. I use to live in Long Beach and would "sneak" into some of those F-1 and CART races there as a little boy. That was a great circuit, too bad it's gone now.
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philo
Trad climber
boulder, co.
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Dec 29, 2008 - 10:01am PT
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Chaz this was way funny; "About all you need to know is the Formula 1 guys date supermodels while Nascar drivers marry their sisters".
Nascar got it's start with moonshine runners. It's a sport for red necks.
F1 is a sport of kings and the finest race engineers in the world.
Nascar is like watching laundry in a dryer.
F1 is like watching a Victoria's Secret fashion show from back stage.
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Dec 29, 2008 - 11:28am PT
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Why can't the Nascar guys race in the rain?
Chickens?
Did they stop moving moonshine when it rained? Why not race in the rain?
It takes more than rain to stop a F-1 race.
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TradIsGood
Chalkless climber
the Gunks end of the country
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Dec 29, 2008 - 12:13pm PT
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Anybody who thinks NASCAR cars never turn right has obviously never watched a race very closely.
They turn right in every race (unless they crash early).
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Chaz
Trad climber
Boss Angeles
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Dec 29, 2008 - 12:15pm PT
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Dale Earnhardt (sp?) turned right. Once.
It didn't work out so good for him.
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Michael D
Big Wall climber
Napoli, Italy
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Dec 29, 2008 - 01:19pm PT
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I'm a car nut, so the wife and daughter get dragged to lots of courses. They summed it up perfectly after F1 in Bahrain (wanted to see Hamilton go 3 for 3 on the podium), saying Nascar is a party, F1 is an event, and Endurance and Rally are experiences. True, in F1 $=success, but the new 4 race engine rule will change that. ?? Why can't you hear the gunfire downshifts when watching F1 on TV?
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Michael D
Big Wall climber
Napoli, Italy
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Dec 29, 2008 - 01:37pm PT
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Oh Yeah, and the F1 reports are the ONLY one's that Fox News covers that don't get all distorted.
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Coldfinger
Mountain climber
Bethany, CT
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Dec 29, 2008 - 08:31pm PT
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Yeah, I vote with the Isle of Man TT poster - motorcycle road racing has it all over Formula 1 (NASCAR is LAME)Almost nobody in the real world will ever drive anything remotely like a F-1 car, but for a few grand you can go out early Sunday morning and drag your knees across the pavement on a bike that is a difference in degree, not of kind, of the ones raced at Isle of Man and etc
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 29, 2008 - 08:45pm PT
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The Isle of Man TT is freekin CRAZY!!! When I get the chance to watch it, it scares the schit outa me. Blasting full open, wheels leaving the ground on rises, no barriers against walls, curbs, houses, people, AND multiple bikes on the course at the same time!!!! BIG, BIG BALLS! Yeah it makes car racing look wussie, but I can't resist the sound of an F-1 engine at 19Krpm, 100+mph around tight curves, oh yeah and the BABES. Vive Ferrari!
Peace
them NAS"COR" guys do make left turns on every lap(counter steering)and looks cool when they drift the long turns, but I can't stand the way the announcers talk like red neckers saying buggity boogity, callin other drivers "cats", and the cars "hot rods" and they caution every other lap for debris on the track and stop the race if a couple raindrops hit the track. Of all forms of auto racing, they are the big premadonas.
Peace
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phillip mike revis
climber
snowbird, ut
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Dec 29, 2008 - 10:09pm PT
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a nascar race is nothing more than a football game f1 and moto gp are where it is at i have been an f1 fan since i was a kid before mario andretti won the drivers title and i was never interested in nascar the cars don't look cool enough
f1 has always been an engine development arena for auto makers when honda engines were winning races twenty years ago their production cars engines lasted forever i would hate to see the rules hange to standardized engines
vive ferrari
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Dec 29, 2008 - 11:03pm PT
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Echo said:
"First one looks like a Tyrell...
Yes I see the similarity in the intake take scoop,
But weren't all the Tyrell's at that time works cars, typically sponsored by Elf, and so a medium dark blue?
Nice call on the Cooper!
I never would've I.D.'d that...
'Fairly distinctive cowl over the engine.
And yes the sounds of the cars can be really amazing.
Ontario Motor Speedway (does that even exist any longer? Probably gone like Riverside right?) Once had a Formula One race, something like 1970/1971.
I will never forget the sound of the Matra, running a flat 12, a thing of beauty to the ears, like a really high-pitched massive church organ.
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ron gomez
Trad climber
fallbrook,ca
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Dec 30, 2008 - 12:24am PT
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Named my son after an F-1 driver...Niki Lauda.
Peace
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Echo
Trad climber
San Diego, CA.
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Dec 30, 2008 - 12:51am PT
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Tarbuster:
You might be right about the Tyrell idea... McLaren used to run those colors around that time.
And the reason that the Cooper was such an easy call was because they were the featured marque at the Monterey Historics a few years ago. I saw a vintage race with like 30 of them running in it... If any of you ever have the chance to go to the historics definitely do. I go every year with my dad and its always a complete blast!
Cheers,
Jonas
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Michael D
Big Wall climber
Napoli, Italy
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Dec 30, 2008 - 01:00am PT
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Echo, did you attend the Speed Weekend in SD this past year? I was bummed to be out of town. We saw a rally of 1920-1960's race/performance autos at Cortina, IT. Amazing to see the cars driven at speed on public roads! My daughter wants an Osca or 300SL gullwing after seeing and hearing them.
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Dec 30, 2008 - 02:12am PT
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Hey Echo,
Remember when Tyrell ran 4 front tires???
Each suspended independently.
One of the strangest configurations ever in motor sports, F1 or otherwise.
I never saw Jackie Stewart race Formula One, but I did get to see him competing in Can Am.
(That's the Canadian American challenge for you Anders).
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Dec 30, 2008 - 02:20am PT
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Here's another one from the early 70s Long Beach GP,
Again guessing on color, I'm thinking Bugatti?
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dogtown
climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
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Dec 30, 2008 - 02:33am PT
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About all you need to know is the Formula 1 guys date supermodels while Nascar drivers marry their sisters.
LOL Thats about it ! Nascar is Conbine racing.
F1 rules.
Bruce
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Tarbuster
climber
right here, right now
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Dec 30, 2008 - 02:57am PT
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Do we even have Formula 1 racing here in the states?
I don't think so ... when was the last one done here???
Club Racing, like SCCA Formula A, would have to be the closest.
Different format for open wheel; less money but bigger engines.
Somebody help me on this one: 5 Litre maximum displacement I believe for Formula A, while F1, has been restricted at 2 litre, but with various tweaks over the years?
Among the first photographs I ever took and developed,
During seventh-grade junior high school, 1973, first year I started climbing:
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dogtown
climber
Cheyenne,Wyoming
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Dec 30, 2008 - 03:18am PT
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2006 at Indy. the closes now is Canada there was talk abut Mexico 2010 or bring it back to Indy.
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