Mammoth topography in regards to Visions (FindMattGreene)

Aug 28, 2013 - 06:13pm PT
My dream was Matt holding a long crystal, almost clear whitish blue, about 2.5 feet long. it was less about a diamond, but had A Gem like quality, like a big solid icicle. He was standing up, no hat or helmet, he looked good, like he was not injured or anything, just standing there. Like he was trying to hand me the crystal but was too far away and just could not reach me. Then i woke up, it was intense, it woke me up with a sense of panic. I quickly went back to sleep. No backpack, that I remember, a tee shirt on, with bare arms.

I have never been to or even heard of mammoth lakes before this. The next day I just put the 3 things into google ( crystal, gem and Mammoth lakes). I was surprised to see so many places pop up, gem lake, crystal mountain, crystal lake, etc.. My immediate reaction was this is it, it's crystal lake, but everyone said there is no snow there, it's well traveled, etc. and it just did not fit the facts. So I dismissed it.

When I first saw the glasses, I did not really feel this was what I dreamed or that it was related. but I was surprised by the similarities and hard time dismissing it. I did get excited that we had a strong potential lead. I was the first person to call Alex when he found them, and I said "dude, I have to ask, did you plant these?" The similarities seemed too perfect. he said no way man I'm not like that, and I believe him.

Last week I had another weird dream, it was like I was half awake, half asleep. I felt possessed, I was on my back but could not move my arms or legs. I remember saying "tiff","tiff".

Also last week, I went to Matt's house to go through all his stuff, nothing seemed unusual. Except I found a bag of arrow heads (like old Indian ones) they seemed to pull on me. A few days later while looking at the maps I noticed crystal lake was shaped like an arrow head and I thought wow that's weird. I dismissed it as a coincidence, again it did not fit the facts.

First off, I don't believe in this psychic mumbo jumbo. Secondly, I am only reporting this because we really have nothing to go on and we are grasping at straws, so what the hell...
-Ron

the blue-diamond trail system

The blue diamonds are some kind of trail markers, all over hiking areas on trees. (Not the same as the blue that marks intermediate skiing trails). Crystal? Well the mammoth crest trail is the same as the crystal lake trail. You stay on the trail to get to mammoth crest. Experienced hikers, not me, can keep going to Deer lakes. The bare tree area? May be Horse shoe lake, which leads to McLeod, which leads to reds meadow and other back country. No ice axe required and the areas are popular for day hikers

Sharing the dreams in detail, that is what I hope RM217 can do also. And perhaps the student who had Matt as a teacher.

Blue Square - Considered “intermediate” trails that are steeper than beginner trails yet easy enough for intermediate skiers to ski on, Blue Square trails aren't extremely steep. They are popular trails at most resorts because they provide skiing that’s fun but not scary. Generally groomed, some Blue Square trails have easy moguls or extremely easy glades.

Black Diamond - Difficult trails that are for advanced skiers. Black Diamond trails can be steep, narrow, or ungroomed. Other challenges, such as icy conditions, may cause a trail to be marked as a Black Diamond. Most glades and mogul trails are Black Diamonds.

The rail/fencing was really interesting. I saw it alongside a trail, and it was built really interestingly. It was a rugged fence that appeared to be made of oak or some other wood. It wasn't painted, and wasn't very tall. It had been there for awhile, as in this wasn't a newly built rail. It was older, worn, and very natural. No paint whatsoever.

RM217, interesting dream! If possible, I'd like to also hear about the one the student had.

He'd briefly mentioned "Glass Greek", however I didn't get a clear view on why it was of importance. For now, I'll stick with the information about the southern location, and if all else fails, I'll see if he can show me anything about the Inyo area.

blue crystal

do not know what fence it could refer to but the town bike trail to the Lake Basin has fence along the steepest area. Mammoth also has some historical mining areas with old fencing and buildings? If Matt hiked to the Lake Basin he could have gone by either area.

"Do you remember any more about the fence, such as how tall it was, whether it consisted of posts joined by two lines of railings, or whether it was constructed in some other way?"

Do you have any sense of how big the dome or dome-like mountain was?

When Matt showed you the map of Mammoth Crest, were the two prominent mountains on it? Or did you see him standing on the trail with the railing, looking at the mountains? Did you get a good look at the mountains, so you could see what they looked like?

Tyler, thanks for your detailed reply! And hi! I wondered whether you were the same Tyler who's over on the Facebook page.

-You mention that the simpler fence was in the more profound vision.

Which was the more profound vision? Also, were the upright planks in the simpler fence right next to each other (more like slats), or were they fence posts joined by wires?

-You say Matt was near the smooth lower sides of a domed mountain with snow/ice on top. Did you have a sense of what color the side of that mountain was? (I think in the second vision you said it was dark.)

Did you have a sense of what it was made of -- for instance, do you have a sense of whether it was loose dirt, or something more pebbly, or smooth rock?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c4/Mammoth_Mountain.jpg


I just came across this pic. It has some fencing with posts and wire.

Second, the crystal. Matt was trying to give Ron a big crystal. You point out that a crystal or a diamond is a treasure -- not necessarily monetary. What was Matt's biggest treasure? His life. Simple, clear, and complete, like a crystal. Maybe he wants to give that to his friends and family.

First, the glass window. In Buddhism, the clearest glass is awareness, the unchanging frame around everything we experience. Supposedly to experience the awareness -- to feel more the awareness rather than its changing contents -- can bring peace and joy. Perhaps in a moment of extremity, one feels this pure awareness.

But the glass is also an obstacle, as what's behind the glass is unreachable, miles and time separating the dreamer from what they see.

The dream book I mentioned says that "seeing a tree through the window" in a dream means: "seeing the world through the eyes of another person"--I haven't noticed this part right away, only when I moved onto "window" meaning.

I'm the medium who's original testimonial is found in the OP.

Hi Tyler...nice to see you jump in and give your thoughts. What is the OP?

From a blog post about Crystal Crag, as it mentions the reason why it was named so (even though it's been mentioned it's not the likely climbing choice):

"Crystal Crag is a little fin above Lake Mary, near Mammoth Lakes, named for a vein of quartz crystals near the top of its north end"
"I was close enough to reach the crystal pitch, though, which was short, but as cool-looking as promised. I stopped to take a few pictures of the huge quartz blocks, but it was hard to get a good shot in the shade."
"From the top of the crystals, a long, exposed 4th class traverse led to the summit."

The fact that all of you including the psychic came forward and shared a little about your dreams and experiences before the pictures of the glasses were ever revealed is very, very important. Similar to how I revealed my dream to my wife before she left me.

Hi there! The OP = Original Post. The testimonial at the beginning of this thread was sent by me in an email. I mentioned in one of my first posts with this account that I agreed with your interpretation about the Blue Diamond (even though I was the one who felt it was a play on words) -- as I think it very well may have many meanings, and I really appreciate your contribution to the thread -- we have some great ideas flowing and hopefully we can get some answers. Hope you're having a great day. :)

"Tyler - thanks for clarifying OP. I knew that when you would answer, I would probably say "DUH" and I did. (LOL).

And...somehow I missed your first post and just went back to find/read it. I wasn't feeling the play on words. Ironically, I do like to challenge myself with mind-game type games/puzzles, something like a play of words, but just feel like it didn't apply to what I was feeling about my particular dream. It seemed broad and confusing. But, like I said, I don't want to discount anything or anybody. It's a big puzzle and maybe if we can get all the pieces put together, we will see that big picture.

The common denominator here seems to me to be the blue.

And - one more thing on the play of words...like I said I don't feel like it plays a role with the "diamonds" but that doesn't mean it is not important. A message is trying to be conveyed. Words are important when trying to relay a message, but in this case, there can be no words, so in a sense we do have to figure out what it is that is trying to be said. So, the words are important.

At the same time, it can have double meaning and be a symbol of location where he potentially had an accident or something he seen at the time of accident.

I knew a ranger in Yosemite that had a story published in Guideposts magazine about a search for a lost hiker in Yosemite in the mid to late 80s. The gist of it was that the ranger (a devout christian) was assigned to work on this NPS search, and he prayed or whatever, and got a vision from God where to look etc, and the hiker was then found alive somewhere in the Illilouette
creek drainage.

Blue Coulier?

I personally wouldn't be looking high, I'd be looking lower. The bottom and mid-section of smaller mountains as opposed to high peaks. He simply made it clear that he would have had a partner if he intended to do a trail or peak of higher difficulty.

I really don't know how to feel anymore; at different times I've had different gut feelings but lately I'm just numb.

-Have you had any more visions, intuitions, or dreams related to Matt?

-In the vision where Matt was falling, how strong was your impression that there was a dome-shaped feature or mountain nearby? In other words, how important is “dome-shaped”? If it was a crucial element, and we posted some pictures of dome-shaped things, do you think one might ring a bell? (I know you said you didn’t see it full on.)

-You said that the mountain where he was falling was made of dark rock – sort of gravelly, near the bottom of the mountain, of big dark-gray clumps of rock around four to six inches. Can you remember whether these rocks were more shiny, sharp-edged, or crystalline, or whether they were more dull, opaque, or rounded? Or somehow both?

-Did you have any sense of where the “falling from a mountainside” vision was located, in relation to the “standing on a wide trail or unpaved road and looking at the mountains” vision? Did you feel they were in a similar place, or that they could have been widely separated?

Lazydays, I am so sorry for your loss.
Your thoughts for Tiffany are wonderful.

I should mention I sent photos of an area near there where the infamous fence leads to a trail off of Sherwin Creek rd that leads to Mammoth Rock which leads to the Lake Basin which leads to Crystal Lake, Mammoth Crest etc. etc.

... there is a trail ... that goes from Shady Rest Campground directly to the Earthquake Fault.

He saw Matt slide down side of mountain on rocks (rocks that would allow one to slide) on his backside, feet first. He came to rest at the bottom of the hill and behind Matt was a large rock or boulder that was made of some sort of blue crystal.

A meadow, waist-high grass, dry, straw-like; a few trees, maybe Oak. I thought of snakes in the meadow grass here, hard to see them... remembering Wendy's “Snake” River... might he have been bitten by a snake?


A stream nearby or running through or at the edge, of the meadow, maybe near the trees. Is that stream called "Snake" something? Is this the same stream where I saw the red vehicle trying to cross? The dirt road dips down to the creek bed and crosses it. The wheels of the vehicles roll through the water of the stream to cross.