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evenkeel
climber
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Topic Author's Original Post - Aug 5, 2008 - 11:29pm PT
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It's not been above 37 for weeks now in Barrow
We had four days of snow the end of July in Barrow...the ice blew right back in during the last storm too...So much for "no land fast ice anymore" too!! LOL!! It's cold as hell up here!!! No summer in sight.
http://community.adn.com/adn/adn_pubstory_484858#comment-325747
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Lambone
Ice climber
Ashland, Or
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That'd be scary!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, Ca.
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It's because of GW, I mean, Global Warming...see it's climate change and the climate is changing from warm to cold. Don't tell Al Gore though...he knows better.
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WoodySt
Trad climber
Riverside
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I'm sorry, you are wrong. Haven't you been listening to Al Gore and all those reports from the GW experts who told us how the Arctic Ocean was melting and all the Polar Bears were on their last fuzzy legs. You are a fascist, a neo-con, a racist, a sexual pervert and a McCain backer. You should be fired from your job and put on trial at the World Court.
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WandaFuca
Gym climber
San Fernando Lamas
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Weather is to climate as a kneejerk reaction is to a thoroughly researched and thought out position.
Unfortunately those who prefer kneejerk reactions have decided that weather is climate.
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Doug Buchanan
Mountain climber
Fairbanks Alaska
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Last week's global cooling in Fairbanks finally became global warming today.
And the mission was accomplished, the weapons of mass destruction will be found, and the axis of evil is out to get us if the Islamic Superstate does not get us first.
When an entire nation trains itself with meaningless arrangements of words, to dumb itself down to the level of its idiot leaders, it is called the United States of America.
That is where the National Park Tourist Service is saving the wilderness, and climbing regulations are for the good of the climbers.
If you are not laughing at the humans, you are missing their only show.
Doug
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Here's another note from the community comments "evenkeel" quotes so selectively above:
They get stuck in the only ice for hundreds of miles around. Exxon navigation.
What's that mean? A good place to watch the big picture of Arctic ice is the National
Snow and Ice Data Center's news page, now with maps updated daily. If you look at
their map, knowing where Barrow is, you'll see what's going on.
http://nsidc.org/arcticseaicenews/
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the kid
Trad climber
fayetteville, wv
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evenkeel..
heres another post to debunk your theories..
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/08/03/warm-winds-may-reopen-art_n_116653.html
Alaska's warm weather this summer has all "gone north." Way north. Scientists at the National Snow and Ice Data Center say strong, southerly winds from the North Slope have devoured a huge swath of Arctic ice larger than the state of Texas in the heart of the Beaufort Sea.
Combining that loss with the overall decline in sea ice in recent years should leave this year's end-of-summer Arctic ice pack close to its lowest measurement on record. It also may open up the ice-encrusted Northwest Passage for the second year in a row -- and only the second time in recorded history.
The Beaufort's broad expanse of open water, which now extends more than a third of the way from Alaska to the North Pole, far surpasses the ice-free zone that prevailed there last summer when Arctic ice overall plummeted to a record low.
Read the whole story here.
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nature
climber
Santa Fe, NM
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naw... kurt... the woody's and the bluerings of this world don't wanna read the whole story. It leaves too much time for their knees to quit jerking...
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Dick_Lugar
Trad climber
Indiana (the other Mideast)
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Careful, don't give the average American too much science and data...their heads will explode!
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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mt10910, did you actually read the whole thing?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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If you read the whole thing, then you know that no one except you is yelling "the sky is falling!"
The NSIDC scientists and many others are pointing out that Arctic ice is melting, which it is.
The Arctic sea ice is in a condition we have not seen since satellites began taking measurements.
As discussed in our April analysis, thin first-year ice dominated the Arctic early in the
melt season. Thin ice is much more vulnerable to melting completely during the summer; it
seems likely that we will see a faster-than-normal rate of decline through the rest of the
summer.
Building on our July 17 analysis, the fragility of the current ice conditions is evident in
the sea ice concentration fields produced at the University of Bremen using NASA Advanced
Microwave Sounding Radiometer (AMSR) data. Widespread areas of reduced ice concentration
exist, particularly in the Beaufort Sea. Even north of 85 degrees latitude, pockets
of much-reduced ice cover appear. The passive microwave data used in Figure 4 tends to
underestimate ice concentration during summer because melt water on the surface of
the ice can be mistaken for open water. Nevertheless, such low concentrations indicate
strong melt and a broken, thin ice cover that is potentially vulnerable to rapid melt.
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bvb
Social climber
flagstaff arizona
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dude you should seriously think about resizing that photo. it whacks out my 19" screen frame like "whoa!"
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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dude you should seriously think about resizing that photo. it whacks out my 19" screen frame like "whoa!"
OK, at your request ... done!
Although now in small size it's harder to see the joke that "evenkeel" didn't get,
which is that Barrow is the only place up thataway with much ice. The orange line
in the map indicates the usual historical extent for this time of year.
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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mt10910, are you also evenkeel?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Well I guess that explains why "mt10910" makes so many posts in support of "evenkeel's" vapid threads.
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