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Mick Ryan
Trad climber
Kendal, English Lake District
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jul 23, 2008 - 04:27am PT
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In 1966 Chris Bonington, Rusty Baillie and Tom Patey made the first ascent of the 137m (450ft) Old Man of Hoy situated on the west coast of the island of Hoy, in the Orkney Islands, Scotland.
The rappel off the Old Man of Hoy is gripping enough!
Roger Holmes, Gus Hutchinson-Brown, and Tim Emmett decided to jump.
Watch the video at: http://new.ukclimbing.com/news/older.html?month=07&year=2008#n45215
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Euroford
Trad climber
chicago
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Jul 23, 2008 - 08:09am PT
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noice!
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xkyczar
Trad climber
denver
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Jul 23, 2008 - 09:13am PT
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Great vid! Thanks.
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Jim E
climber
Mountain Road
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Jul 23, 2008 - 10:31am PT
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Excellent vid! Very well done.
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WBraun
climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 10:36am PT
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What happened to all those crazy ass birds that live on that tower? I didn't see any in that video.
When I climbed it those birds try and spit that green puke all over ya. Fulmars they were called or some such.
The rock is kinda soft.
Crazy ass sh'it jumping off that thing.
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TRo
climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 10:46am PT
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Signed on to climb the "Old Man" in September--I'm not sure the rock looks all that nice (noice)typical greasy sea cliff stuff and a bit weathered and sandy...what with Fulmars lobbing projectile vomit/fish parts at you...and it seems to be atypical Scottish weather...I'll file a trip report (but I'm not jumping off the top...at least not intentionally).
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'Pass the Pitons' Pete
Big Wall climber
like Oakville, Ontario, Canada, eh?
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Jul 23, 2008 - 10:48am PT
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The Old Man looks less of a heap of choss than I had thought it would.
Note that one of the lads died BASE jumping since the video was made.
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Mighty Hiker
Social climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Jul 23, 2008 - 12:53pm PT
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Now you've done it. As though Chris Mac needed any encouragement for his activities. He'll probably try it with a wingsuit or something. :-)
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Haggis
Trad climber
Scotland
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Jul 23, 2008 - 01:24pm PT
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how dare you Canadian. Calling the old man a heap off choss!?!?!?!? We are a rather small country, with a rather large amount of climbing, we don't just climb choss you know and not all sea stacks are about to fall down (just most of them).
Its far better and much longer than the stuff in you neck of the woods, unless you like the impressive views (and smells) from the Niagara Escarpment. or shall we compare it to areas in the rockies where - unless it is actually frozen - you would have to be a mad man to even contemplate.
I think you should come and have a go before you throw away some for the best climbing in the world from your couch in flat land!
sorry end rant
the only real problem with climbing the old man is the sand, it gets everywhere and if your the first team on the route after a storm it can be rather horrid in the offwidth, other than that its a good day, unlike other routes in the area ......
other than that the original route (E1 5b ) has reasonable protection, isn't too "birdy", isn't too freaky, and only has minor descent problems.
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Haggis
Trad climber
Scotland
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Jul 23, 2008 - 01:26pm PT
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TRo you wont have bird problems in September but you will have wind problems.
the rock is 'old red sandstone' which is Devonian in age and can be sandy but isnt too dangerous, the route dosn't get too greasy by sea cliff standards apart from the 3rd pitch which is rather run out but not crazy. the belay at the top is rotten and should be inspected although if you can climb P2 you wont fall here. bring a few larger cams to 4" or run it out, should be simple crack climbing for anyone from the USA.
the descent can pose problems for the non-acquainted stack climber, see the guide book for details and or mail me. The ropes can jam on the final rap, you have been warned, bring tat to leave and clean the oldest crap off.
what else are you doing while you here?
Rob
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Prod
Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
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Jul 23, 2008 - 02:18pm PT
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Anyone know the fall it takes to open a shoot. IE, throw the thingy and continue falling X feet until the shoot opens?
Prod.
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handsome B
Gym climber
SL,UT
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Jul 23, 2008 - 03:36pm PT
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"Anyone know the fall it takes to open a shoot. IE, throw the thingy and continue falling X feet until the shoot opens?
Prod."
It all depends on how fast your body is traveling, as well as your gear choices.
If you are jumping El Cap (god forbid) and going 125 mph, you want your chute to open slowly.
If you are jumping Ancient Art and going 10 mph, you want your chute to open quickly.
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TRo
climber
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Jul 23, 2008 - 04:41pm PT
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Haggis,
Doing some walking with the wife, sampling the local beverages, avoiding haggis and blood pudding, trying to drive on the correct side of the road, curing hangovers, photographing the scenic splendor, and perhaps climbing "the Old Man".
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Social climber
valley center, ca
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Jul 23, 2008 - 05:14pm PT
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Thank you for posting this thread. I think it's important to take note whenever possible and appreciate what some humans feel compelled to do and actually pull off.
I don't pretend to be able to relate to what they do or to know what makes them tick, but they are who they are and it is sometimes amazing what they accomplish and the new frontiers they open.
Putting it out there. Anyone can stay on the couch. Others efforts encourage me to push my envelope a little harder.
PS Will Oxx has a great base jumping DVD .... It can be found under his name on the internet.
Cheers for the Thread, Lynne
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Prod
Social climber
Charlevoix, MI
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Jul 23, 2008 - 08:55pm PT
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Thanks HandsomeB,
I guess what I am wondering is what how short of a tower can a base jumper jump from? It looked like those guys got pretty close to the ground prior to having a controled flight. That tower was 450'.
Just curious?
Prod.
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handsome B
Gym climber
SL,UT
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Jul 24, 2008 - 12:05pm PT
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A quick primer: The pilot-chute is the small (42" diameter) chute that the jumper throws, this small chute pulls out the big chute (240-280 sq. foot). These two chutes are attached by a 9 foot piece of 800 lb. webbing, called the bridle.
6,000-400 feet: The jumper keeps the pilot-chute, the big chute and the bridle tightly packed into the container (backpack) until deployment time.
300-200 feet: The jumper holds the pilot-chute in her hand so there is no delay from reaching back to the container and throwing it.
200-86 feet: The jumper has a helper hold the pilot-chute and bridle at the top of the object so that as the jumper falls away the big chute is extracted. The helper lets go after the big chute is open.
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bookworm
Social climber
Falls Church, VA
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Jul 24, 2008 - 03:15pm PT
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"should be a giggle" is my new motto
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