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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Original Post - Oct 22, 2009 - 01:30pm PT
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Can you put a name to some of these? Some are Cassin and one of the knife blades is Holubar but the long ones are unknown. They belonged to my dad and he cant remember what they are. The Hammer is a Stubai.[photoid=131929]
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2009 - 01:33pm PT
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Another shot.
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pud
climber
Sportbikeville
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Oct 22, 2009 - 01:49pm PT
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Looks like some old military stuff I used to have. None of which had Mfg. info on them.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2009 - 01:59pm PT
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Could be military. There is something stamped around the hole for the ring on the long pins that almost looks like it says Zurich.
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Greg Barnes
climber
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Oct 22, 2009 - 02:08pm PT
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The long ones are Fritsch pitons, they are stamped Fritsch Zurich. My dad has a bunch of them, I think they were a pretty widely available "standard" piton in the late '50s.
Around 5 years ago I bootied a long one of those from the top of a short 4th class waterfall in Chidago Canyon near Bishop (a canyon on the east side of the volcanic tablelands north of town). Pretty random place!
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couchmaster
climber
pdx
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Oct 22, 2009 - 03:20pm PT
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is the lower left hand biner a Raffi Bedyan?
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2009 - 04:58pm PT
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Lower right is a Bonatti.
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mongrel
Trad climber
Truckee, CA
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Oct 22, 2009 - 05:00pm PT
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I don't think that's a Bedayan biner. I've got some of those and they're aluminum, symmetrical ovals. The hammer looks exactly like one I owned BITD, which was a Stubai. I sawed off the pick a little shorter for better use removing pitons (couldn't afford a Chouinard hammer at the time) and so it would fit in my back pocket. I've got some pins like the blades shown here too. Maybe rummage around in the depths of the basement one of these days and see if there are any mfg. names on them.
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Scared Silly
Trad climber
UT
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Oct 22, 2009 - 05:13pm PT
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The small blade ring pin is an army "waffer" pin. All the biner look to be steel. As mentioned Bedyans were aluminum.
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atchafalaya
climber
Babylon
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Oct 22, 2009 - 05:17pm PT
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RCS is the stamp? Rock climbing section of the sierra club?
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Brock Wagstaff
Trad climber
Larkspur
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Oct 22, 2009 - 05:23pm PT
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The stamped initials on the ring angle piton in your first photo could be RCS, and would indicate that it perhaps belonged to the Sierra Rock Climbing Section (RCS) which was very active in the 30's to 60's.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2009 - 05:26pm PT
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I thought of the rock climbing section but wasnt sure if they stamped their stuff.
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Ed Bannister
Mountain climber
Riverside, CA
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Oct 22, 2009 - 05:58pm PT
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is the lower left biner steel?
the claw shape and style look to be what Stubai made. no pin on this one is there?
here is as good of place as any to mention that stubai was/is a prolific manufacturer of all kinds of industrial steel rings links etc, and that early on the line between mountaineering and other hardware was not so well defined.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2009 - 06:02pm PT
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My dad gave me the stuff about 35 years ago. One Christmas he gave my brother and I enough webbing to make a swami and some biners. He took us up to Williamson Rock and taught us to rappel and place pitons. We climbed the main face hardly placing any gear and I remember putting in a bolt or two in order to top out. This was all on goldline. He also took us to Mt Pacifico but by this time I had saved my birthday money and bought a proper climbing rope and some two inch webbing for my swami. My dad gave me his gear which included a hand drill and several star-drive bolts.
Before Williamson closed I took my dad up there and climbed Being There with him, he was amazed at all the routes and all the people.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2009 - 06:03pm PT
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Yes, the lower left is steel, and no pin.
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Batrock
Trad climber
Burbank
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Topic Author's Reply - Oct 22, 2009 - 11:45pm PT
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Dean,
I'd like to see some pictures of those claw hooks if you get a chance.
Kevin
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guido
Trad climber
Santa Cruz/New Zealand/South Pacific
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Oct 23, 2009 - 01:27am PT
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yep-looks like a old Stubai biner. If you used these too often you had to consider a career in Orthopedic Medicine as you would rack up a horrendous bill in crushed fingers using these mothers!
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
sorry, just posting out loud.
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Oct 23, 2009 - 01:35am PT
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good to see the Way Back machine is still working.
nice
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Ken
Trad climber
Arroyo Grande
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Aug 10, 2012 - 02:20pm PT
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how about this stuff stumbled upon after 32 years
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Steve Grossman
Trad climber
Seattle, WA
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Aug 11, 2012 - 07:09pm PT
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The piton stamped YC is a real prize. Looks to be one of Yvon Chouinard's early horizontals from the late fifties. Where did you find it?
You can easily spot a similar shape in this old Chouinard photo that Tom Frost has a copy of.
If yours has no other marks, you would have to scratch or dimple test it to determine if it is hard steel rather than soft iron.
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