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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 21, 2007 - 10:46am PT
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Anyone know the best mode of travel in China? I figure jets land in Bejing. But how to get to Hami? Train, Camel?
Please Advise
Juan
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scooter
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Moss Landing CA
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Nov 21, 2007 - 08:35pm PT
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you should ask poster Dragon With Matches, he may know someone or be able to point you to something helpful.
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john hansen
climber
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Nov 21, 2007 - 09:22pm PT
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So whats the big attraction there?
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 22, 2007 - 09:08am PT
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So it seems I have to get to Xinjiang Provence on the border with Mingolia.
Lost
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Dragon with Matches
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Bamboo Grove
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Nov 22, 2007 - 01:54pm PT
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It's gonna be easier than you think. The "old" China is disappearing fast (think bullet trains and ultramodern air terminals) along the coast, but out in the wild west you'll still have some adventure. Flights to large cities are no problem, then you'll be on increasingly old-school modes of transport as your destinations get more remote.
One useful point in China, if you're headed for a small town, be sure to have the name of your destination written in Chinese, not just memorized. We gringos don't easily get the tones right when trying to speak zhongwen, and this HAmi place you're seeking could easily be confused with another town in the same province called, for example, haMI. Tons of stories could be told about train rides/bus trips/etc to completely wrong towns due to subtle pronunciation differences.
If things go epic and you're faced with no apparent language connection around, seek out some students. Young people, though often shy, usually have good English skills and will be happy to help a foreigner in distress, especially a real live American.
You'll have a great time; once off the east coast the people are warm and welcoming.
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kunlun_shan
Mountain climber
SF, CA
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Nov 22, 2007 - 02:02pm PT
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Easiest way is by train. There's no public air transport to Hami. Its out on the far west train line between Lanzhou and Urumuchi. You could take train all the way from Beijing - slow, literally 2 days or so. Or you could fly to Lanzhou or Urumuchi and train from there.
I don't know the current situation but I think Hami used to be a restricted place, not on the "open" list. If you are on an official trip, no problem...if not, you might want to avoid checking into hotels in Hami...just keep on moving to avoid any complications with officials, Public Security Bureau....
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Michael Hjorth
Trad climber
Copenhagen, Denmark
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Nov 23, 2007 - 03:19am PT
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Instead of China you could go to North Greenland on Aug 1.
I have arranged for a small cruiseship to arrive just inside the totality zone. But you need to fly out from Copenhagen. 6500 USD for two weeks, all inclusive.
Michael Hjorth
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