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DonC
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Original Post - Mar 4, 2018 - 07:52pm PT
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Making a "poster" of Mt Whitney for a friend. I say "poster" because it will actually be a full resolution 18" x 24" print, but in the form of a poster. The images are very sharp, so hopefully you can ignore the Supertopo photo limits and see which layout you like better.
For the top photo I hired a plane out of Bishop a few years ago, and hung out the open window for a few hours and got hundreds of cool pictures from Bishop to Lone Pine. Going to do the same thing from Bishop to Lee Vining this summer
Two versions below, any preference? Only difference is bottom picture.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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I like the plane photo...Gives a different perspective of the crest...nice pics Don..
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Ksolem
Trad climber
Monrovia, California
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The bottom one.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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I think the middle pic is cool with the great contrast, the hills, Whitney cold in sunlight and shadows, against blue sky and white clouds.
The bottom set.
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DonC
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2018 - 08:19pm PT
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thanks clinker, it is one of my favorites. I was shooting Mobius Arch in the am, and driving back along Movie Road, and saw this shot. I have a 24 x 36 of that hanging in my house.
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clinker
Trad climber
Santa Cruz, California
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What's your address? :)
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DonC
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 4, 2018 - 08:27pm PT
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Matt - last year I worked with the USFS and NPS on a display that is currently in front of the big window looking toward Mt Whitney in the Lone Pine Visitor Center. It took them 6 months to agree on what elevation I should use, they agreed on 14,494. I too have seen a number of elevations for Mt Whitney, but this is what the local land management agencies wanted me to use.
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nah000
climber
now/here
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yup another vote for v2 fo sho... cropping and colour comp is better in the lower...
have you explored rationalizing them and ordering them from closest to furthest away [or vicee versa]?
regardless, all very nice...
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seano
Mountain climber
none
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Bottom one. The lower photo in the top one is cropped too close to Whitney's summit.
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justthemaid
climber
Jim Henson's Basement
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Top set has better color contrast but I agree the lowest photo does need to be slightly recropped if you use that version.
The bottom set is good without editing- I like Lone Pine Peak included for reference.
As a side: All the arguing about the elevation is a bit wacky. There are different baseline sealevels from which elevation is measured around the world and technically Whitney gets a tiny bit taller each year. I know the USFS officially endorses the under-14,500 version.
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DonC
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2018 - 07:07am PT
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The lower photo in the top one is cropped too close to Whitney's summit.
I agree, but in order to maintain a 1:2.5 crop ratio, if I crop so there is more sky above the summit, then I lose the lower structures and the picture doesn't work at all. It was a forced crop that doesn't work. It is a gorgeous picture though when not cropped.
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seano
Mountain climber
none
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Fisherman's Peak -- hah! Much more fun to label it that and let people scratch their heads.
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10b4me
Social climber
Janie's
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I like v2, but I like Mike's layout.
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micronut
Trad climber
Fresno/Clovis, ca
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I really favor the top one over the bottom.
I like the close up.....lets you see all kinds of terrain you can't see from town. And I like close ups like that because I can spend my day gazing at features and routes I've done or dream of doing. The bottom one just has the same views you get from town in my opinion and those are a dime a dozen.
And yeah, I love mike's layot. Much better chi.
Cool project!
Scott
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
Sands Motel , Las Vegas
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Right on Micronut....!!
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DonC
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 5, 2018 - 08:45pm PT
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great comments everyone, some stuff to think about. I'm not a half bad photographer, but graphic layout is a totally different art.
Mike - great layout done so quickly! I have reason for this to be portrait rather than landscape, but I like some of your ideas. I knew I had lots of work to do on the layout/text, was mainly getting comments on the picture combinations.
Matt - even though USFS asked me to use 14,494' for the display in the visitor center, your comment got me to rethink what I do with this piece of work. I have a geodetic surveyor on my staff and he uncovered this for me - the latest National Geodetic Survey data sheet shows 14,508'. NGS is the source for this kind of data so not sure why USFS and NPS don't go with it. I'm going to contact them.
https://www.ngs.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/ds_mark.prl?PidBox=GT1810
GT1810* NAD 83(1992) POSITION- 36 34 42.98800(N) 118 17 31.18625(W) ADJUSTED
GT1810* NAD 83(1992) EPOCH - 1991.35
GT1810* NAVD 88 ORTHO HEIGHT - 4422. (meters) 14508 (feet) SCALED
Clinker - sorry I missed your request. My email is dc dot nc @ verizon dot net
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DonC
climber
CA
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Topic Author's Reply - Mar 19, 2018 - 11:30am PT
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I have been in communication with the regional surveyor for National Geodetic Survey and he also provided me a paper on the history of elevation surveys and computations for Mt Whitney written by USGS.
My correspondence with NGS today says 14,500 ft. USGS says that 14,494 should be the published elevation for USGS provisional maps, single edition USFS maps, and GNIS, but that using NVD88 and VERTCON program from NGS, the elevation is 14,500.
NGS said the new datum in 2022 is likely to reduce elevations in the Whitney area by 3 ft.
I'd be happy to send the USGS doc to anyone interested.
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Vitaliy M.
Mountain climber
San Francisco
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Mar 19, 2018 - 04:17pm PT
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Great photos and a nice gift. I like the 2nd version.
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