Has anyone ever seen a real dirtbag?


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Jingus Newroutaineer
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 13, 2018 - 08:31am PT
lol Mountain Project....what a sh#t show:


"I knew a guy once didn't shower for a week." lol

Trad climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 08:35am PT
Didn't shower for a week

Ice climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 08:38am PT
Why? Is one missing?


Jingus Newroutaineer
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 09:02am PT
I just figured we could mock them for luls.



Trad climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:08am PT
I once met a climber who didn't use underarm deodorant

.....in a single wide......
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:09am PT
There is guy who during the winter months panhandles in Pasadena where 210 ends as the 710 south. In summer, he is a renowned PCT thru-hiker.

Jingus Newroutaineer
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 13, 2018 - 09:10am PT
Heh locker....these days, yea, most have all kinds of dough and a $50K sprinter van.

I just thought it was comical that somehow it was a kind of "mythical creature" when frickin' virtually everyone that had an impact on the sport started out dirt bagging in one form or another.

Now its like a rare sighting of a "red-legged sap sucker" or like a zoo animal....<<<<come to think of it there were a few like that lol.

Pretty soon there will be "token dirtbags" to lend street cred to a crag.

Mountain climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 09:40am PT
Some interesting comments above. Turning into a good discussion, kingtut.

There are still dirtbags, who don't advertise and just climb. One of the guys who holds the current Nose speed record fits the definition, imo., though he might be starting to get enough sponsors to live more comfortably.
Todd Gordon

Trad climber
Joshua Tree, Cal
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:04am PT
Oh no, it aint' that pretty at all......
Oh no, it aint' that pretty at all......
Credit: Todd Gordon

Boulder climber
Montgomery, AL
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:32am PT
I wasnt trying to start a debate. Just wanted to hear about some interesting characters.


Feb 13, 2018 - 10:35am PT
Really waiting for this "dirtbag" thing to blow over. Yes, there have been dirtbags for a while but they didn't drive Sprinter vans, kept a super low profile, and didn't act all entitled, etc. They were generally eccentric characters who usually didn't refer to themselves heroically as "dirtbags", and they didn't carve #dirtbaglife etc into picnic tables.

During the past 10 years or so, it has become trendy for people to talk about being "dirtbags". Aside from them being the worst form of posers, this trend hasn't really done anything good for climbing or relationships with land managers, etc.
Don Lauria

Trad climber
Bishop, CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:40am PT
Oh God, it's Fred!

September 1999


About 4 weeks ago I was climbing with TM in Tuolumne. We had gotten a late 10:30 AM start and people were already on South Crack, so I insisted that we race up the Eunuch. We did. Back at the base in less than an hour and a half and seeing that the South Crack route was still jammed up with helmeted climbers with huge racks and brand new chalk bags, I convinced Herbert to run up that route just left of West Country. Before I could get TM moving from the car, a young climber with Asian features approached me and asked if I was looking for a climbing partner. I responded, Not really, despite appearances, I had a climbing partner ... see, there he is ... the one with the stupid looking hat. I added that he was not only my climbing partner, but that on occasion he passed as my father. The kid was looking askance at my 20 year old swami belt whose knot no longer had the appropriate length to gird my expanding waistline, and at my distinct lack of a chalk bag. Then I mentioned that HE, my partner, was the famous TM Herbert.

The kid was aghast and agape ... not THE TM Herbert! Yes, I replied, none other. He wanted to be introduced immediately and just casually remarked that he, too, was climbing with a legend. Fred Beckey! I said, Fred Beckey, where? Right there. In that car. I looked back and there, not more than ten feet away, seated in his car and absorbed in some written material in his lap, was Fred Beckey.

Fred, you old fart! How the hell are you?, as I approached the car, not knowing whether old Fred would even know who I was.

Lauria, what the hell are you doing here?

He recognized me. I was flattered. I'm climbing you old f*#ker, I'm climbing with TM. TM? Is he still coming up here?
Well, things settled down. TM came up. Fred got out of the car. We all shook hands. Fred was stooped and looked every year of his 80-some-odd. He had an injured foot and was limping which only added to the impression of his advancing age. We learned that, true to form, he had somehow convinced this young Asian to drive him down from Seattle to the Sierra so that they might go into the Palisades area to do some new secret Beckey route. But now, because of his injured foot, they had detoured to Tuolumne so that the kid might at least get in some climbing.

TM and I pried ourselves away from the ever loquacious Beckey and ran up our proposed route. We returned to the base to find South Crack open and again had to pull away from Fred to be next on the route. By 3:00 PM we were back at the car with Fred. Herbert was still insisting that Fred get an X-ray and Fred, who is more deaf than I am, was either ignoring the suggestion or the message was not getting through his faulty ear canals. In fact, the two of them, although apparently talking to each other, were by outward appearances carrying on two separate conversations. Neither of them was listening or maybe just not hearing the other.

TM and I finally excused ourselves and headed back to the Tuolumne store for a six pack which was subsequently downed in back of the Chevron station. After listening to Herbert expound on the necessity of x-rays in diagnostic medicine for over an hour, I managed to slip away and back to Bishop by 5:30 PM. So old Fred is still out there, but man, he's starting to look like a dirt bag.


Trad climber
portland, or
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:46am PT
Don, the tenth time is as good as the first! Keep it comin'!

Trad climber
Feb 13, 2018 - 10:54am PT
More like a lurker. But thanks I’ll take that title upgrade.
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

Out Of Bed
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:39am PT
there's a whole crew of russian scumbbags at some damn tourist attraction in the swamps around Maryland . . .
Mark Force

Trad climber
Ashland, Oregon
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:43am PT
Are you a dirtbag if you have a car?

Seems like some of the prerequisites are hitchiking, train hopping, dumpster diving, eating scraps at cafeterias, climbing mostly on ratty reclaimed gear, eating whatever - free dog food samples, working whatever you can get once in a while til the next trip while you're couch surfing, welcoming the shelter of a phone booth out in the middle of nowhere on a stormy night beside the hihway cuz you can't get a ride....

Trad climber
San Diego, CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:50am PT
If you live in your car and it is no longer drivable, I say yes.


That picture of Tom and Tucker qualifies in my book. Classic.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:51am PT
Locker, maybe he/she is a psych student doing a paper on how soon an otherwise innocent
thread turns into a shitshow?
Bad Climber

Trad climber
The Lawless Border Regions
Feb 13, 2018 - 11:57am PT
Why, yes I HAVE seen a dirtbag. Thanks, Todd, for that classic pic. I have the dubious honor of helping Tucker launch his legendary career. I was with him on one of his first trips to JT. I think he was still attending some college classes at the time, but that didn't last. It wasn't long after that trip that Tuck hit the dirt and never came back.


Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Feb 13, 2018 - 12:23pm PT
So, Bad, we now have evidence that ‘going dirtbag’ is a career choice
in addition to a lifestyle choice?
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