Permits for photographing Horsetail Falls!

Search
Go

Discussion Topic

Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
Messages 1 - 20 of total 27 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 4, 2018 - 07:30pm PT
No joke:
https://fstoppers.com/landscapes/yosemite-requiring-permits-februarys-horsetail-firefall-event-218126
Mungeclimber

Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:35pm PT
Parking permit, not photography permit.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=3057093&msg=3057093#msg3057093
T Hocking

Trad climber
Redding, Ca
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:39pm PT
Gunna be dry this year I think.
Cosmiccragsman

Trad climber
AKA Dwain, from Apple Valley, Ca. and Vegas!
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:40pm PT
#FAKENEWS
xCon

Social climber
909
Feb 4, 2018 - 07:43pm PT
hold a camera has always invited a beat down


f*#k nike
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Feb 4, 2018 - 08:26pm PT
About time. That massive entrance fee hike that's coming down the pike will offer similar relief.

DMT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Feb 4, 2018 - 08:50pm PT
pretty dry last weekend after the snow...

amazing that people don't walk from the lodge area (with that new parking area in the place formally known as Camp 4).

Inner City

Trad climber
Portland, OR
Feb 5, 2018 - 09:11am PT
DMT,
Not sure the fee is going to limit much. Most of those folks in attendance are coming from far-flung locations with expensive cameras, I'll bet they won't mind paying the fee. Others will walk in of course, which seems a smarter option anyway...

it does seem like a year that is not shaping up well for the ephemeral wonder to occur...still time tho.
Dingus Milktoast

Trad climber
Minister of Moderation, Fatcrackistan
Feb 5, 2018 - 10:28am PT
No? How about banning tripods from the road shoulders?

DMT
Bullwinkle

Boulder climber
Feb 5, 2018 - 10:49am PT
Why is it that those who live here understand what's going on, and those who don't are so certain of what they don't know. . .df
steve s

Trad climber
eldo
Feb 5, 2018 - 11:46am PT
^^^ because everyone is an expert.
Mike.

climber
Feb 5, 2018 - 11:55am PT
A ranger, straight-faced, told me that it's illegal to publish any images of recognizable features in the park without permission from NPS.




OnsightOrGoHome

Trad climber
Fair Oaks
Feb 5, 2018 - 09:33pm PT
From nps.gov
https://www.nps.gov/yose/planyourvisit/horsetailfall.htm
Tom

Big Wall climber
San Luis Obispo CA
Feb 6, 2018 - 01:07am PT
Hearst Castle, apparently, seeks to enforce a similar copyright law that prevents anyone from taking photographs.

Even from the back side, from her father's ranch that overlooks it, Carrie says that a photo that has never been seen before is forbidden.


Stupid is, as stupid does, but this is apparently a real thing.


Carrie says that photographing Hearst Castle, from any angle, violates copyright laws.


Copyright law, now, doesn't just protect a specific photo. The copyright law, apparently, extends to what a person can see, or take a picture of. Ostensibly, a person can look in a particular direction, but not take a photograph in that particular direction.


The copyright law that protects a famous person's visage, from being used without their consent, has now (amazingly) been applied to rocks and a building. And, that building is a California State Parks facility, which is owned by the Peoples of the State of California. The rocks are owned by the Peoples of the United States of America.



Look, yeah, but don't click.


Buy your clicks at the Mister Majestyk Mountain Motel gift shop.






Look, but don't selfie.
It's the Law.







PellucidWombat

Mountain climber
Draperderr, Utah
Feb 6, 2018 - 01:40am PT
Hearst Castle, apparently, has a copyright law that prevents anyone from selling photographs of it.

So does all of NYC as well, apparently. I was stopped by a cop & ID'ed while taking photos in the middle of the night around the financial district back in 2009. Everyone has got to milk their cut, I guess...

$$$$$$

$$$$$$
stevep

Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
Feb 6, 2018 - 05:46am PT
Pretty sure that non-commercial photography as infringement of copyright would not be enforceable.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
Feb 6, 2018 - 05:52am PT
I licensed one of my shots of federal property to Getty Images, and Getty sold it to the N.P.S.

No permit, commercial or otherwise.
10b4me

Mountain climber
Retired
Feb 6, 2018 - 08:58am PT
So does all of NYC as well, apparently. I was stopped by a cop & ID'ed while taking photos in the middle of the night around the financial district back in 2009. Everyone has got to milk their cut, I guess...

I think that was part of an anti terrorist law. Could be wrong.
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Topic Author's Reply - Feb 6, 2018 - 09:36am PT
Making everyone in violation of laws that are selectively enforced is an excellent way of controlling an entire population and maintaining a power structure.

"Thank you for not grinding your boot into my lips when you are stepping on my face."
PellucidWombat

Mountain climber
Draperderr, Utah
Mar 8, 2018 - 02:57pm PT
10b4me: I think that was part of an anti terrorist law. Could be wrong.

That is what I asked the cop, but he said 'no'. Other people were taking photos in the area using point & shoot cameras and he didn't care about them. What set me apart was that I was using a tripod under low night, with a DSLR camera, which meant that I could be making commercial-viable night photos (I never had any issues taking photos in the city with a point & shoot or DSLR without the tripod). He specifically asked me if I was intending on selling the images personally or to another outfit. He then recorded information from my ID for whatever reason and then let me continue to take photos... with the understanding that I was NOT to sell them.
Messages 1 - 20 of total 27 in this topic << First  |  < Previous  |  Show All  |  Next >  |  Last >>
Return to Forum List
Post a Reply
 
Our Guidebooks
Check 'em out!
SuperTopo Guidebooks


Try a free sample topo!

 
SuperTopo on the Web

Recent Trip Report and Articles
Recent Route Beta
Recent Gear Reviews