Is Cochise Stronghold worth my time?

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moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 2, 2017 - 07:29pm PT
I have a perfectly good climbing gym three miles away.

Driving two days to a new destination seems risky.

What's good up there?

Moose
NutAgain!

Trad climber
South Pasadena, CA
Nov 2, 2017 - 07:32pm PT
A grain of sand is worth your time, if you are ready for it!


Speaking of "is it worth the time":
A few years back, wifey was giving a talk in Albuquerque. I flew out to climb with her afterward for a day or two. She let me make the plans (oops!!!!). We drove about 6? hours south to the Organ Mountains, spent the night, had an all-day approach to the farthest thing I could find on a topo overview of the area, and started that climb around winter sunset with ridiculous winds, ended up ascending stuck rap ropes on an unprotectable hard slab, twice, then cutting ropes when far end stuck fully horizontal in the wind... made it to ground pretty late, wandered around for another 4 hours lost and cold and dark. Some time after midnight we ascended a rock to look around and still had no idea which way to go in the endless expanse of scrub forest. I was ready to bivy and offered her my jacket, but her stubbornness kept us moving and within 20 minutes we were at a road. Wifey might disagree, but I think it's a cherished memory :)

So yeah, you should go to Cochise!
Kalimon

Social climber
Ridgway, CO
Nov 2, 2017 - 07:33pm PT
Are you worthy of Cochise Stronghold?
ruppell

climber
Nov 2, 2017 - 07:36pm PT
Crappy camping, shitty routes and bees. Lots of f*#king bees. Stay away.
Steve Grossman

Trad climber
Seattle, WA
Nov 2, 2017 - 07:52pm PT
Absolutely magical place. Get a copy of the Geir Hundal guidebook at the Summit Hut if you are zeroed in on multi pitch routes and I can connect you with some of the locals if you like for route recommendations. Plenty of info on Mountain Project too if you don't want to throw down for a guidebook.
The best formations require approaches but the routes are well worth it.
What's My Line is an absolute classic at 5.7 A0 or 5.10-. Chickenheads big as birthday cakes and lots of them.
Lots of great routes at all grades and levels of engagement.
When are you thinking about going?
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2017 - 08:41pm PT
NutAgain!, have you considered becoming a motivational speaker? I dont think so! Hehehe

I'm going climbing on Nov. 8th.

A new climbing destination for me. Stoked!

Hope the n00bs I'm climbing with know how to get there.

I'll lead!

Moose
cavemonkey

Ice climber
ak
Nov 2, 2017 - 08:45pm PT
🐑 head is a great place to start but the beauty lies deeper.
Some really good stone out there
Don't know of any 5 pitch traverse routes though if thats what ur into;)
drljefe

climber
El Presidio San Augustin del Tucson
Nov 2, 2017 - 09:03pm PT
Iíd just bail now if I were you.
Youíre doomed, f ucked, hosed.
Good luck, youíll need it.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 2, 2017 - 09:20pm PT
Don't bother, there's no wifi.
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 2, 2017 - 09:49pm PT
Reilly, you know where it hurts!

I found three routs I can try. Rated together 16.5, three peaches total.

I should be able to top rope them in a week, right?

Moose
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Nov 3, 2017 - 03:10am PT
On your way home, you might could swing by Red Rocks and visit Geronimo up in Jackrabbit.

This would jack your total to a whopping 22.1, MooseCheericauhua.

IF...you can climb it, that is.

Have fun, be safe, and don't mess with the n00bs too much.
johnokner

Trad climber
Omis
Nov 3, 2017 - 04:28am PT
i dig goatcheese strongmold. but yeah it's a cool place
Gnome Ofthe Diabase

climber
Out Of Bed
Nov 3, 2017 - 04:41am PT
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Yes . . .


Ask The Doninisaurus - (Ya'know - Jim D)
BrassNuts

Trad climber
Save your a_s, reach for the brass...
Nov 3, 2017 - 07:06am PT
The internet there is sketchy, so you won't be able to post up consistently, probably best to go somewhere else.
donini

Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
Nov 3, 2017 - 07:25am PT
I talked to Cheis (Cochise to many) about the area years ago. He gave me his blessing to climb there as long as I didnít bolt next to cracks.
Mike.

climber
Nov 3, 2017 - 08:36am PT
Hope the n00bs I'm climbing with know how to get there.

I hope you know where to tell them to go.
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
Nov 3, 2017 - 08:47am PT
Do not waste the gas.... it will add to climate change.

That Gym 3 miles away .....air-conditioned, with pounding techno and hawt womwn in lycra.

Moose that is the ticket.

and it is so hot in Cochise that the cactus needs to grow in the shade of the burnt mesquite trees.

and it is windy

12 hours in the Yukon, a gud way to spend a Tuesday.
12 hours in the Yukon, a gud way to spend a Tuesday.
Credit: Mark Frumpkin

TWP

Trad climber
Mancos, CO & Bend, OR
Nov 3, 2017 - 09:08am PT
"Two days driving to Cochise." To climb in a granite paradise with The Doninisaurus! You poor little thing!

As I type, I am sitting at the Riley's Supermarket Wi-Fi site in Reno, NV while enroute from Bend, OR to the Hualapai Mts. in Arizona for a climbing trip and then onward to daughter Hilary's wedding. It has taken me two days just to get this far (about 370 miles). Spent two nights in the camper at golf course parking lots where I also play a round of golf.

At my rate of travel, Bend to Cochise would take me a week of driving!

So Moose, start driving now and stop bellowing.
moosedrool

climber
Andrzej Citkowicz far away from Poland
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 3, 2017 - 09:09am PT
That's what I thought. Too hot and windy.

I am going to the gym. The views in the gym are much better too!

Credit: Internet

Moose

Edit: Happy wedding, Terry!
kunlun_shan

Mountain climber
SF, CA
Nov 3, 2017 - 09:31am PT
See ruppell's post. Epi pens don't work for killer bees.
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