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oliviateal
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Topic Author's Original Post - Jun 11, 2014 - 07:51pm PT
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Steph Davis has always been my climbing role model and over the years when I read her posts on veganism I always admired her way of thinking and wanted to give it a shot. But I'm lazy (it's genetic I swear!) so it never happened. A couple weeks ago I was listening to Honnold talk about his environmental reasons for going vegetarian and looked into the issue myself. Blew my mind and finally pushed me to try being vegan.
So far so good! Could just be placebo effect but I do feel stronger and more energized. Even sent my first V9 in the Gunks, which I've been working on forever. Just wanted to touch base with other vegan climbers out there, and pick your brains. What snacks do you pack for camping? Got tips and recipes? Gimme some beta!
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RyanD
climber
Squamish
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Jun 11, 2014 - 07:56pm PT
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Good for you for making smart choices for personal and environmental reasons.
Honnolds climbing shoes are made out of cows btw.
Search vegan or vegetarian in the upper right & you will find a bunch of existing threads here on the topic.
Peace!
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Dante
Boulder climber
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Jun 11, 2014 - 08:00pm PT
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Welcome to veganism! Steph Davis is a complete badass, love reading her articles. She has some pretty good recipes and cooking videos, too. Evolv and Five Ten make a good number of leather-free shoes, btw. Congrats on the V9, awesome achievement. I didn't experience any mind-blowing changes in strength and energy when I went vegan, but I did put on 20 lbs of muscle in the first couple years, and I have an easier time maintaining a low bodyfat now.
*Shameless plug* I run a vegan cooking website that focuses on inexpensive, easy, and delicious recipes. Also has step-by-step videos, so if you're new to cooking just follow along :) My advice to new vegans is to just eat whatever foods you normally eat, to make the transition easier. If you eat a lot of burritos, pizza, burgers, nachos, etc. then stick with that for now. Keep it enjoyable!
http://www.happivore.com
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 11, 2014 - 08:46pm PT
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Diets....Lacto Vegetarian, Lacto Ovo Vegetarian, Fruitarian Vegetarian, Pescetarian, Endenic, Flexitarian, Paleolithic, Atkins, Zone, Dukan, Mediterranean.....there are literally hundreds of diets all claiming to be the WAY. If one suits you by all means embrace it, make it your own. Diets are personal.....and should be kept that way, too much conflicting evidence to make proselytizing one a valid endeavor.
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John M
climber
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Jun 11, 2014 - 09:08pm PT
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My advice to new vegans is to just eat whatever foods you normally eat,
whew!!! for a minute there I thought that I was going to have to give up meat. :-)
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Ghost
climber
A long way from where I started
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Jun 11, 2014 - 09:26pm PT
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What Donini said.
Really. I mean, who knows?
Moral issues aside, the best summary of how to eat right that I've ever seen is this seven-word summary from Michael Pollan: "Eat food. Not too much. Mostly vegetables."
Of course, he had to write a book to explain what "Eat food" meant, but the short version is "don't eat crap."
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Dante
Boulder climber
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Jun 11, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
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Vegan's the way to go but it's like a full time job finding the right foods and preparing meals that taste good.
It's really easy, just takes getting used to like anything in life. Animal products are such a huge part of our food culture that it might feel weird to bake without eggs and milk, or eat breakfast without bacon, when we've done it day after day our whole lives. But once you're used to the new style of eating it doesn't take any more time or effort to make awesome meals. I would actually say vegan cooking is easier than cooking with meat, from my experience.
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Studly
Trad climber
WA
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Jun 12, 2014 - 01:23am PT
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Dnt worry to much about the nay sayers on here. When someone feels threatened by someone eating veggies and fruit, its simply because they try to justify their own diet. It takes allot of effort to eat vegetarian, vegan even more so.
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BuddhaStalin
climber
Truckee, CA
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Jun 12, 2014 - 02:05am PT
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None are 'the way to go', different strokes for different folks, we all have different needs....and being human is inherently bad for the environment, no matter what our diet, we are hard on the planet be it from our practices, being consumers, or just the sheer number of us. Just eat what feels good and treats you best.....Veganism or any other diet can make more of a consumer out of you than any other way of eating. There is no magic bullet.
Us non veganism-ers arent threatened by you fist shaking vegans, we're just annoyed. Smooches.
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Bad Climber
climber
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Jun 12, 2014 - 05:53am PT
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++++ Donini.
We're WAY different beings. What works for one can make another seriously ill---fo' reelz.
Stay healthy. Check yer knots.
PS: Grass-fed meatinizm ain't too bad on the enviro, btw.
BAd
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donini
Trad climber
Ouray, Colorado
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Jun 12, 2014 - 06:45am PT
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Anyone who is concerned enough about their diet to strictly follow one of the many available is likely on a good track.
The majoritiy of Americans are stuck in a triangle of taste, price and convenience. That translates to way too much fat, sugar, salt and processed food.
There is another triangle that can lead to better health that is....caring, evaluating, sticking.
1) CARING enough about what you consume to decide to do something about it.
2) Study nutrition and EVALUATE what's out there that suits you best.
3) Pick a diet and, here is the key, STICK to it.
I'm sure that any diet a concerned person picks will be far superior to the highly processed foods laden with salt, sugar and fat that so many Americans relish.
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mynameismud
climber
backseat
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Jun 12, 2014 - 07:41am PT
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I have been dabling with the Vegan/Veggie diet for the past few months. I did not really take it to serious until I started to travel and while eating at restaurants sometimes found it almost impossible to find something on a menu without animal products. That just kind of pissed me off. Not that eating animal products bothered me since I had been doing it for 50 years. It was the thought that all these establishments were saying I had to eat animal products.
I do feel better eating a plant based diet. Lost some weight and seem to have more energy. Have been surprised in how much my taste for food has changed. I am at the point where I can't really stand those heavy fat/meat based meals anymore.
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julton
climber
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Jun 13, 2014 - 09:20am PT
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Aren't you that sickly yellow skinned guy who intentionally starves himself periodically?
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lostinshanghai
Social climber
someplace
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Jun 13, 2014 - 11:31am PT
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Not all that easy: if one does decide to go vegan just need to buy or know the ones to stay away from eating:
[GMO] genetically modified organism foods: Corn, soy, sugarbeets, aspartame, papayas[ Hawaii], Canola oil, rapeseed, zucchini, yellow squash, Dairy: growth hormones types, organic ok providing that they are not feed with GMO fillers.
Rice as in "Roundup Ready rice", NewLeaf potatoes [were used briefly by McDonald's for their french fries before consumer backlash against GMOs put an end to their use]. Monsanto has since stopped production of NewLeaf.
Corn syrup in drinks, Dry cereals as in corn and rice........
Pesticides: Mexico has the worst record on all vegetables.
Dried herbs [bottled] that you buy at the stores to shake is not great best to grow or buy organic and dry them yourself.
Then there is “Round up” as in spraying to keep the weeds away
Also one needs to have blood checked for Vitamin D and calcium on a vegan diet: low D high C count can create problems; if you are in the sun or taking a good daily supplement no problem.
#1 problem is the cost since they more expensive. People usually will not buy because of this.
Boycott all Monsanto products if you get the chance.
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oliviateal
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 13, 2014 - 07:12pm PT
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there are literally hundreds of diets all claiming to be the WAY. If one suits you by all means embrace it, make it your own. Diets are personal....
@Donini Oh yes there are a ton of diets that all say they are the one true divine diet but I am not in it for health reasons. It's all about the environmental issues with meat and the ethical dilemma of giving animals horrible lives just to make meat cheaper for us or because we want to wear fur and leather. It's not a system I can look squarely in the face and feel ok about. If my health improves any that is just an added bonus :-)
@Dante Thanks your site is awesome! I am a pretty sucky cook but I made the red lentil curry for lunch and it was orgasmic. Even my roommate asked for seconds and she is very picky. I will definitely be trying more recipes.
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Dante
Boulder climber
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Jun 13, 2014 - 11:20pm PT
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Glad you enjoyed the recipe! I really appreciate the feedback. Red lentil curry is one of my favorites. Highly recommend the curried carrot soup as well, I make it every couple weeks 'cause it's so good.
Also one needs to have blood checked for Vitamin D and calcium on a vegan diet: low D high C count can create problems; if you are in the sun or taking a good daily supplement no problem.
Vitamin D and calcium aren't really more of an issue for vegans than the general public. When most of us grow up we're told to drink milk for calcium, and come to strongly associate the two, but the truth is that there are tons of sources of calcium, and milk isn't the best. Most brands of almond milk actually have more calcium than dairy does, and are fortified with Vitamin D to boot. So simply switch dairy with almond milk for your breakfast cereal and no problem.
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oliviateal
climber
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Topic Author's Reply - Jun 23, 2014 - 03:57pm PT
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Sorry for the long delay been busy moving. My boyfriend decided to give veganism a shot too and so far so good. He's considered it before because he's a fan of Frank Medrano and has always wanted to clean up his diet, just needed a push :) A lot easier with both of us on the same page too.
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Dante
Boulder climber
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Jun 24, 2014 - 02:39am PT
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Awesome. Yeah, it's always a lot easier when you can share a lifestyle with your SO. Frank is a talented guy, and his surge in popularity this year really helped dispel the myths about vegans having any more difficulty gaining muscle or strength.
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