Twisted rope syndrome


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Mountain climber
portland, Maine
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 13, 2012 - 02:29pm PT
I know all of us has rap a rope or belayed and had to deal with the twisting of the rope. By rapping a rope using a carabiner brake system will re leave the twist for a awhile. On a rope I bought a year ago still twist.

I would like to know how you fix this problem or can it be fixed?

When I coil the rope after climbing I work the twist out and I have hung a rope over night before and it has helped. But not with this rope.

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Nov 13, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
How disappointing - I thought this thread was gonna be about Locker or Rottingjohnny.
Inner City

Trad climber
East Bay
Nov 13, 2012 - 03:01pm PT
Dangle the rope from a high place where it can hang free...kinks will vanish like the winter sun..

Trad climber
Nevada City, CA
Nov 13, 2012 - 03:56pm PT
Some ropes seem to be incurable. Wear it out and buy another model / brand.

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Nov 13, 2012 - 04:05pm PT
rapping on twisted ropes!?!??!

dude, you're so on borrowed time ; )

Trad climber
Stockholm, Sweden
Nov 13, 2012 - 04:06pm PT
I've had ropes that constantly twisted and kinked, and others that almost never did.. Some ropes are just cursed it seems. I read somewhere on Beals website that you have to uncoil a new rope in a special manner, otherwise it will give you trouble. Don't know much about that.

My current Beal rope never kinks, my previous kinked all the time (I gave it away) same brand, same model.

Mountain climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 04:48pm PT
yer gonna die or something...

Social climber
San Francity, CA
Nov 13, 2012 - 05:19pm PT

did you say kink?
Jon Beck

Trad climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 07:24pm PT
Butterfly coil, no twists

Nov 13, 2012 - 07:38pm PT
One little trick from wrapping wires and from knot theory.

If you coil both ends together, any twists you put in by accident are effectivelly null. One end will twist the opposite of the other and the total twist is 0.

Why I always butterfly coil both ends at once, have to do a little extra work flaking the rope before climbing, but NO TWISTS.

Nov 13, 2012 - 08:29pm PT
The twists put in when coiling both ends, even if they stay in the rope, are in opposite directions, when you rap or use a device to push to twists down they will cancel out at the end of the rope.

Sometimes you still encounter some twists in the middle, but I haven't ever had a rats nest at the end from twists that other people seem to have

Trad climber
Nov 13, 2012 - 08:54pm PT
Put a knot in the end of each length, but don't tie them together.

Trad climber
CA Central Coast
Nov 13, 2012 - 09:04pm PT
is Weld-iT still around?

he'd hit this one out the park
Fossil climber

Trad climber
Atlin, B. C.
Nov 13, 2012 - 09:12pm PT
Free solo. No twists.

the last bivy
Nov 13, 2012 - 11:05pm PT
if you top rope frequently or rap on a figure 8 device it will twist your rope. suspend both activities
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
And every fool knows, a dog needs a home, and...
Nov 13, 2012 - 11:10pm PT
Ah but master of kludge you're perhaps forgetting that one can twist the rope in the middle, to the point of kinking it the f*#k up, and not even get to the ends. End result is still a kinky rope.

A butterfly coil can introduce a kinking action from the center-line out. This results in counter-rotational spirals, ultimately cancelling each other out twist-wise, end-of-rope.


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