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limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Topic Author's Original Post - May 8, 2012 - 01:04am PT
"DeeBees Rib (IV F7) ascends the right skyline arete for over 1,000 feet" -A guidebook

I got the IV part, but what's an "F7"???
Clint Cummins

Trad climber
SF Bay area, CA
May 8, 2012 - 01:06am PT
5.7 . "F = Free" "A = Aid"
It's from an old rating system (NCCS = National Climbing Classification System) that was proposed to replace the YDS 5.x and 6.x system.
It compressed the lower grades.
It was used in the AAJ, in some old AAC guidebooks, and in the old Wolfe Joshua Tree guidebook.

Only the Ax part of the system is normally still used.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2012 - 01:08am PT
Awesome, thanks! I was looking over foreign rating conversion charts and now I know why I couldn't find it.
Chaz

Trad climber
greater Boss Angeles area
May 8, 2012 - 01:24am PT
I like the British system better.

It sounds better to have spent the day on the "hard severe" climbs, than to accurately describe the day's climbing.
limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Topic Author's Reply - May 8, 2012 - 01:28am PT
Kind of wish that would have caught on
Steve Belford

Sport climber
Poway, CA
May 8, 2012 - 02:15am PT
or Benny Hill
tradmanclimbs

Ice climber
Pomfert VT
May 8, 2012 - 10:15am PT
My old teton book has the F system in it.. Also lots of nice sketches but sketchy descriptions...
F10

Trad climber
Bishop
May 8, 2012 - 11:23am PT
Good post Cosmic
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
May 8, 2012 - 11:27am PT
The first Oregon guidebook I had (Nick Dodge I believe?) used the F ratings.

It was actually a little odd getting used to YDS as a youngster!
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
May 8, 2012 - 12:26pm PT
The only place that I can remember still using the F system past 1980 was the Tetons.

And everyone knew that F7 meant 5.7

It was some sort of disorder up in the Tetons, which is a fun place to climb, BTW.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
May 8, 2012 - 12:54pm PT
Devil's Lake used it's own interpretation of the "F"-system until probably sometime into the '90s, if not later.
AP

Trad climber
Calgary
May 8, 2012 - 02:09pm PT
Now its about 5.8+
JEleazarian

Trad climber
Fresno CA
May 8, 2012 - 02:13pm PT
Now its about 5.8+

Too funny, and sometimes true besides. I, too, loved the old British system that gave us such odd ratings as mild very severe. Then again, my beloved YDS has its own quirks.

John
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