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scrumdilescent

Social climber
Golden, CO
Topic Author's Original Post - Apr 13, 2011 - 06:40pm PT
I'm trying to find out who is the copyright holder for Vulgarian Digest (or if it is even copyrighted). I'm an employee of the American Alpine Club Library, and we are interested in including some scans on our website or blog. Any help is much appreciated.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Apr 14, 2011 - 12:43pm PT
Unlikely that it was copyrighted, but I'll try to dig up my old issues when I get home and see what they say. The VD was primarily a Joe Kelsey effort, so if it was copyrighted the rights probably belong to him. Claude Suhl, Rich Goldstone and a few of the other Vulgarians post on here, so they might have more information.
Betty Uno

Boulder climber
Colorado
Apr 14, 2011 - 03:00pm PT

bump
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Apr 15, 2011 - 12:27pm PT
I located my copies of the VD, and could find no "copyright" mention in any of the 3 of them. I'd been thinking that there might have been some suitably Vulgarian assetion of "rights", but couldn't find one. But, to be safe, it would be best to contact Joe Kelsey. I believe that he spends his summers based around Jackson Hole and guiding for Exum--at least he has in the past. So you should be able to get contact info. for him through them.It says something about how times have changed that the AAC library wants copies of the VD--really great in my opinion.
MH2

climber
Apr 15, 2011 - 12:35pm PT
"It says something about how times have changed that the AAC library wants copies of the VD--really great in my opinion."


Al, this statement provokes curiosity. The Vulgarians were anti-establishment but I don't recall any specifics on the AAC being anti-Vulgarian, and the only fun I remember being directed at the AAC was in the "What Should You Be Reading" item in the VD.
Alan Rubin

climber
Amherst,MA.
Apr 15, 2011 - 01:13pm PT
While I surely don't recall any direct animosity between the Vulgarians and the AAC--in fact, I believe that at least some of the Vulgarians were, or later became, AAC members--but I doubt very much if the quite "starchy" AAC of the era would have approved of it's library containing a magazine that featured a "prominently" topless woman on the cover of one of it's issues and various other somewhat "risque" photos and discussions of "depravity" on the inside. Similarly, many of the Vulgarian's would probably have been dismayed if their publication was deemed sufficiently acceptable by the Establishment.
MH2

climber
Apr 15, 2011 - 04:01pm PT
"many of the Vulgarian's would probably have been dismayed if their publication was deemed sufficiently acceptable by the Establishment."


Ha ha. Revenge of the nerds, if Vulgarians can experience dismay.
The Librarian

climber
Golden, CO
Apr 18, 2011 - 01:13pm PT
Beth the AAC librarian here. I don't know about the history of the Vulgarian/AAC relationship, but like always, it's great to hear the stories! I'm going to have to look up the part MH2 mentions and if we get the go ahead from Joe it might be the first thing we scan!

Just FYI, we've had copies of it for a long while now, we're just trying to do the right thing before scanning and putting online -something we aim to do a lot more of.

Oh - and here's a list of all the magazines and journals we've got:
http://americanalpineclub.net/p/library-magazines

The link is to our beta test site, and the hard launch is next week, so the .net will have to change back to .org to make it work once we're really live. Sorry for the confusion and thanks.
mwatsonphoto

Trad climber
los angeles, ca
Dec 3, 2011 - 08:38pm PT
Here is a link to a scan of the spring 1970 edition of the digest.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/7291095/Vulgarian-Digest

-mike
Toker Villain

Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
Dec 3, 2011 - 08:52pm PT
I have all the VDs.



(Should I rephrase that,....?)
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 3, 2011 - 11:59pm PT
Bump for vulgarity.

The one issue I owned: was loaned to a friend.

You know the rest of the story.
rgold

Trad climber
Poughkeepsie, NY
Dec 4, 2011 - 10:35am PT
Librarian, I've sent you an email address I have for Joe Kelsey, which, however, might not be current. You might want to check your spam folder; that's where messages I get via SuperTopo often show up.

P.S. By today's standards of pornography, the VD is a family magazine. And even BITD, those starchy old AAC bankers probably had far more salacious material under their well-upholstered beds.

couchmaster

climber
pdx
Dec 4, 2011 - 11:40am PT
mwatsonphoto, that 70's digest is some ABSOLUTELY AMAZING stuff! Thanks for the link man! Woot!
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 4, 2011 - 03:15pm PT
Thanks for posting that VD. A great read! Also two Sheridan Anderson cartoons in it, that I don't recall seeing previously.

The cover on the issue I loaned for eternity was: two nude gents pursuing a flock of sheep, with Ship Rock in the background.

I remember thinking a magazine with a cover like that had to be mine. Bought it in Teton Mountaineering about 1974.
Fritz

Trad climber
Choss Creek, ID
Dec 4, 2011 - 08:29pm PT
After a little Vulgar searching today: I found that a good person has posted all three Vulgarian Digests to his Photobucket site.


http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/doghike/vd/

They are not easy to run through, since this is a page-by-page scan, but it was more interesting than ST roe vs wade ranting this afternoon, or the outside snowstorm & winds.

Here's a little Vulgar fun and many thanks to doghike.


click photo to enlarge.


looking sketchy there...

Social climber
Latitute 33
Mar 25, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
Here is some real content worthy of a few eyes.
marty(r)

climber
beneath the valley of ultravegans
Mar 25, 2013 - 03:14pm PT
Vulgarian Digest is to Climbing what Sniffing Glue or Creem is to Rolling Stone. Priceless stuff right there! More scans please!
orle

climber
Mar 25, 2013 - 03:54pm PT

http://s96.photobucket.com/albums/l184/doghike/vd/

top notch
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