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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 10, 2010 - 11:33am PT
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What an excellent blog!
Check it out. These kids are as red, white, and blue as you and I are.
But more importantly, they show the depth of the roots in our own country.
The stories are amazing, like their experience in Alabama.
Click on Day 22 in particular, but make sure to click on the route map and read a blog from wherever they went near you.
For example, I read the excellent write up on New Mexico.
Check it out, and actually look into the depths.
http://30mosques.com/2010/09/day-22-ross-north-dakota-a-leap-in-time/
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Sep 10, 2010 - 11:45am PT
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Thanks! I'm looking forward to reading it and recommending it to others.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2010 - 12:02pm PT
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Thanks Jan and Wes,
Here is a small part of "the answer" right in front of us, but threads with lots of screaming and name calling will rule the day.
It's so much easier to listen to your own righteous attitudes than to take a moment to truly try and understand another.
I've always admired climbers for being so smart and open minded, but even on this site we're as polarized as the rest of the idiots we like to call idiots.
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philo
Trad climber
Somewhere halfway over the rainbow
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Sep 10, 2010 - 12:28pm PT
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Bruce that is wonderful. I hope many people put down the Faux Noise and look into it.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2010 - 02:19pm PT
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Weschrist,
Oh I won't give up on climbers ever. I have a lot of respect for the guys that I disagree with around here also.
But this is a good news, warm hearted thread, so it has no chance of sticking around.
Even though the effort of Amman and Bassam has such potential, we'd rather stay in our tracks, like the North going and South going Zax.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2010 - 03:34pm PT
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Thanks Gene!
This part needs highlighting:
Yossi Kaplan, a Lubavitch rabbi at Chabad Jewish Center next door, said he was approached by people seeking his opposition to the project - but waved them off. The two faiths were enjoying solid relations, to the point where they shared parking lots and Muslims helped with tasks that Jews cannot perform on the Sabbath.
The rabbi expected nothing less from his neighbors, regardless of religion. This is America, Kaplan said, and this is how it's supposed to be.
"We're just good friends. We're really good neighbors," he said. "There's never been any issues."
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Reilly
Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
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Sep 10, 2010 - 03:38pm PT
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Shalom! Salaam! Peace!
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Mason
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Sep 10, 2010 - 03:47pm PT
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Wow!
I know the little girls from Day 17! One of them is my friend's daughter in So Cal. They are Cham people from Indonesia. Very devout Muslims, more devout than I'll ever be.
This is a great blog.
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Mason
Trad climber
Yay Area
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Sep 10, 2010 - 04:19pm PT
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I was pretty jaded after 9/11 and for a while. But reading blogs like this and also interacting with many on this board and also reading opinions on this board give me hope.
I know Wes thinks most on here are bigoted, but I think there are quite a few who've shown me the light and given me a lot of hope. It's humbling, especially after reading a lot of the POS Pastor and Ground Zero threads.
It shows me that I have a lot to learn and a lot of tolerance and "do unto others" philosophy I have yet to practice.
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Gene
Social climber
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Sep 10, 2010 - 04:54pm PT
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Muslim Prayer Room Was Part of Life at Twin Towers
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/11/nyregion/11religion.html?_r=1&hp
Given the vitriolic opposition now to the proposal to build a Muslim community center two blocks from ground zero, one might say something else has been destroyed: the realization that Muslim people and the Muslim religion were part of the life of the World Trade Center.
Good article.
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 10, 2010 - 06:59pm PT
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Good link Gene, way to keep it positive.
Another worthy excerpt:
“It was so freeing and so calm,” Mr. Sareshwala, 47, said in a phone conversation from Mumbai, where he is now based. “It had the feel of a real mosque. And the best part is that you are in the epicenter of capitalism — New York City, the World Trade Center — and you had this island of spiritualism. I don’t think you could have that combination anywhere in the world.”
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Jonny D
Social climber
Lost Angelez, Kalifornia
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Sep 10, 2010 - 08:06pm PT
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hey survival, have you ever checked the mosque in abiquiu? really cool place!
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Jan
Mountain climber
Okinawa, Japan
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Sep 11, 2010 - 05:26am PT
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Bump for tolerance!
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survival
Big Wall climber
A Token of My Extreme
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Topic Author's Reply - Sep 11, 2010 - 11:10am PT
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Johnny D,
I'd never seen it until I saw the "day 17" blog. Now I want to go there for sure!!
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Jaybro
Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
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Sep 11, 2010 - 01:48pm PT
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Holy diverse Americana, batman! I just read the last entry (lotta chores here at the armbar ranch) did they get to that beautiful mosque in Tempe?
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Gene
Social climber
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Sep 11, 2010 - 08:13pm PT
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Wow. I just read some stuff written eons ago. Know the sources?
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
What were these guys thinking?
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mrtropy
Trad climber
Nor Cal
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Sep 11, 2010 - 08:28pm PT
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Mason I thought the Cham people were from Cambodia and Vietnam but I guess there might be some from Indonesia
Edit Mason Not to distract form your post it is so cool your daughter knows those kids!
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