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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Original Post - Feb 26, 2010 - 12:36am PT
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I must admit I don't remember seeing these sliders before. I have asked Stéphane for a full story but in the meantime, anyone know a bit of history on these?
The are marked "ANDE" and are made in Italy.
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hoipolloi
climber
A friends backyard with the neighbors wifi
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:38am PT
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Oh those!
Those are an Italian made slider nut, I believe they are called ANDE's.
hah!
neat little find, you should climb on 'em and see how they are.
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pc
climber
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:41am PT
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Meat tenderizers?
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Under the Macabre Roof
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:50am PT
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They work. Slider nuts can be cool.
Some folks find them hard to clean.
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:52am PT
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Skully, comet or windex works fine .....cleans them up just groovy. :D
Edit: I'm surprised Tami ....yo haven't posted .....them bein' slider nuts and all.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Under the Macabre Roof
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:53am PT
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Haha!
Lynne, you rule!
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Lynne Leichtfuss
Sport climber
Will know soon
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:55am PT
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Nice to be back in the Romin' Forum.....so to speak. Been gone here and there and missed yo all. :D lynnie
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mountain dog
Trad climber
over the hills and far away
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:02am PT
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I have used the LoweBall sliders alot for clean aid and they are great, but yes they are hard to clean once weighted. Those things look even burlier and possibly easier to clean because they don't have the soft brass or copper 'ball'.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 01:02am PT
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Cap'n... yep, I have (and have used) several different types of sliders (I love Lowe Balls) but I had never seen these before. Trying to see what people know about them.
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Captain...or Skully
Social climber
Under the Macabre Roof
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:07am PT
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Right on. I've got some assorted ones, too.None like those, though.
Apparently there were many.
Good luck! (really)
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healyje
Trad climber
Portland, Oregon
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:29am PT
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Hmmm, interesting. Sort of works the reverse of a Loweball. Wouldn't mind seeing a side view and the other side of one...
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pip the dog
Mountain climber
planet dogboy
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:37am PT
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(hey hoipolloi - funny line)
i like the design of those sliders in the OP more than the (er, Metolius?) variant i used BITD -- before teeny aliens and their kin pushed them off my rack.
took my longest whipper ever when i zippered out two early version spring loaded slider nuts (and a wired stopper) while trying a FFA on crack that proved too thin for even my skinny fingertips. genuine 70 footer - friends and i have since measured it (on route and in a photo of me just a moment before i flew).
fortunately it was steep enough that there was nothing but air under me -- though when i finally shot back up and into the rock, i got rather smooshed (and _such_ a wedgie).
i kinda remember they were metolius - but not entirely sure. who else made such stuff circa summer of '87.
what finally kept me from cratering was an old school big stopper on perlon. amen. i caught much heat from friends who tried the line later, as that stopper was posolutely welded into the one spot you could get a full knuckle into for quite a ways. long after i finally went back, rapped down, and got that fat mashie out (with a hammer and cold chisel).
never did try to finish the line. years later it finally went at 13a -- so just as well.
~~~
well, that digression rather got away from me. oopsy.
anyway, i kinda like the design of those Andes slider nuts, at least as they appear in the photo above. though not so sure about the "meat tenderizer" touch -- seems likely to keep it in place against just rope drag -- then smoosh and fail when really loaded by a long one.
but who knows, an engineer i am most certainly knott. more a test pilot...
^,,^
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 01:41am PT
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healyje/Joseph... I will take some more pics tomorrow (once my midnight deadline clears on the Yabo thread) with my tripod so I can zoom in a bit better. Perhaps Stéphane will have an answer or two for me by then.
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goatboy smellz
climber
लघिमा
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:53am PT
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That's a Gspot flux capacitor.
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bhilden
Trad climber
Mountain View, CA
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Feb 26, 2010 - 03:49am PT
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I don't know about the design. I think you need both halves of a slider nut to expand (have some taper) for them to be really effective. The design of these things look like the moveable piece just provides a flat surface for the tapered part to move. That's basically how a regular stopper works.
I think the Italians got it wrong on this one.
Bruce
ps- having said all that, it would be nice to see a photo to see if the sliding piece has some sort of taper. From the photos provided it looks like it does not.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 10:13am PT
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Bruce,
The sliding part DOES have a "chunky" taper. I will shoot pics this AM and post.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 12:47pm PT
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Okay, here are a few STEADY shots and closeups. You can see the name, the double wedgie and... my sexy hand!
Still waiting to hear back from Stéphane...
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GDavis
Social climber
SOL CAL
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Feb 26, 2010 - 12:56pm PT
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Those are catheters.
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Ihateplastic
Trad climber
It ain't El Cap, Oregon
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Topic Author's Reply - Feb 26, 2010 - 01:22pm PT
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Just for shites and giggles... here are a few other oddities (some more than others) that you might enjoy...
This one is "Endorsed by top climbers"!!!! I remember these but picked this one up recently for my mini-museum.
Close-up of the head...
And a few oldies and oddities... (L to R: Ural Alp, homemade?, Forrest)
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Evel
Trad climber
Slartibartfasts Newest Fjiord
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Feb 26, 2010 - 01:52pm PT
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Anybody remember Rock'nRollers? I loved those things.
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