are "Brands" the new Religion? (OT)

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Ray Olson

Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
Topic Author's Original Post - Nov 7, 2009 - 08:02pm PT
I know, wierd thread title,
but it honestly seems that way
sometimes...
Josh Nash

Social climber
riverbank ca
Nov 7, 2009 - 08:14pm PT
or more like the new teams.
426

climber
Buzzard Point, TN
Nov 7, 2009 - 08:16pm PT
Persuasion...it works wonders
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 7, 2009 - 08:21pm PT
i thought religion Was, branding...
Srbphoto

Trad climber
Kennewick wa
Nov 7, 2009 - 08:51pm PT
I wouldn't say they are the new religion. I would say there is a religious fanaticism associated with them. As well as an antireligious fanaticism (which is often the more visceral of the two).

Look at TNF. Some people think everything they make is just the best and there are others who think anything with TNF on it is garbage.

The small "in the know" companies suffer from the same thing. Then if they get big a lot of the fanatics become the antifanatics :)

Ray - nice subject!
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Nov 7, 2009 - 09:03pm PT
Consumption of manufactured goods generally is the new religion - and the malls the new cathedrals. Brands are just denominations.
Srbphoto

Trad climber
Kennewick wa
Nov 7, 2009 - 09:14pm PT
Rockermike - or in Berkeley's case Ikea is the Glass Cathedral.

And Marmot, which is in a church.
nick d

Trad climber
nm
Nov 7, 2009 - 09:16pm PT
Just ask an Apple computer user!
perswig

climber
Nov 7, 2009 - 09:18pm PT
^^It's not a cult! (or is it?)
Peter Haan

Trad climber
San Francisco, CA
Nov 7, 2009 - 09:28pm PT
Well, Ray, we have not really progressed all that far that we would have left behind fundamental aspects of what makes us function. Note "Cargo Cult" (also known as Cargo Culture) on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cargo_cult

where primitive cultures after initial contact with advanced civilizations such as ours, then endow all sorts of stuff of ours, with magical powers and meanings. It was noticed in the Caribbean where shipwreck flotsam was sometimes arranged into altars and thought to have voodoo value. I think branding can work on this level with many even today.
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Nov 8, 2009 - 12:36am PT
is this an example; The Gods Must Be Crazy (great movie)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=66pTPWg_wUw
Ghost

climber
A long way from where I started
Nov 8, 2009 - 12:43am PT
Brand as religion is as old as humanity. It has gone by different names, or not by any name, but aspiring to coolness by buying/wearing/using the same brand the cool people use is what humans do.
Ray Olson

Trad climber
Imperial Beach, California
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 8, 2009 - 08:05am PT
IMHO
Brand manufacturers are our servants,
their job is to cater to our needs
in both the short and long term.

it isn't about "them" it is about
what we do with the tools they make.

BTW, is California a "Brand"?

is USA a "Brand".......?



Peter, all time cool link.
Maysho

climber
Soda Springs, CA
Nov 8, 2009 - 08:31am PT
If you haven't seen this you should:

http://www.storyofstuff.com/

I posted it on a thread a couple of years ago:
http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.php?topic_id=500267&tn=0

Amidst other good info there is an interesting reflection on "how it used to be".

Peter
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
Nov 8, 2009 - 01:30pm PT
I think we like things that work. Branding, at best, helps keep track. Apple stuff works, Fish gear works, Stonemaster clothes work. Gramicci stuff used to work.

I tend to drive Saabs, because they rock, even if they don't always work as well as Hondas or Toyotas. And that works for me!


Jardine used a whole page for the copyright alone, what a slacker!
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