Trip Report
Tooled at Castle Rock
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Monday February 11, 2008 9:43am
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So I arrive at Castle Rock State Park on Saturday and I'm waiting for my buddy to show up. I'm cranking some Rolling Stones in my truck and organizing all my gear and drinking a beer. The parking lots are FULL. Some idiot even parked in between two trees that cuts off another 5-7 parking spaces.
I see a ranger vehicle coming and pray it's not the supertool Miles Standish (real name). Every time this guy sees me he fu*ks with me. He HATES climbers, especially dirtbags. Sure enough he parks and gets out and, yep, it's the world class a$$hole know as Miles Standish. I hide my beer as he approaches and pretend to be busy in the back of my truck. He's studying everyone license plates and is headed my way.
He passes me (after checking my plate) and I say, "Howdy". He returns the greeting. I see a couple of climbers I recognize (Charlie and some other dude) and I go over (Stones still crankin') and say hi. They also relay stories of getting tooled by Miles. I go back to my truck and he's writing somebody a ticket. He comes back by me and says, "You know I can issue a citation for playing music that's audible at 50 feet away?". I say no, let me turn down the music. I then ask if they've ever considered putting a sign in between the trees saying, don't park here, you're blocking a section of the parking lot. He says, "I can write everybody here a ticket for parking perpindicular to the road, not parallel." I'm like, WTF? I didn't know that was a law either.
This guy just cruises around finding ways to f%ck with people. He gives law enforcement types a bad name.
A$$hole!
bluering
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About the Author bluering is a trad climber from Santa Clara, Ca.. |
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 11, 2008 - 09:53am PT
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Ah, Miles Standish... super tool. Not to worry, though, he doesn't just hate climbers, he hates everybody. That guy has serious issues.
I think anyone who is tooled by him (as I have) ought to write a letter of complaint. It doesn't matter if he did anything wrong or if you got a ticket or not, but I think it would help the park people know they have a dick on their hands. If enough people send in polite letters saying "this guy is out of line", maybe just maybe he'll go away. What do you think? Too optimistic?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:10am PT
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Khanom, actually my wife recommended that. I don't want the guy to lose his job or anything, I just wish he'd lighten up a little bit.
I guess it could have been worse, though, he could've wrote me up instead issueing a dickish warning. It does seem as though he has a pretty bad reputation. I talked with other rangers about reopening the Valley Of Stone nad they say to ask the head ranger (Miles Standish) and they kinda looked at each other and said, "good luck with that", as if to say do really want to initiate conversation with that prick?
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:11am PT
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so you WERE breaking the law but you weren't tooled? why so angry?
once had my car locked in the goat rock parking cause we watched the sunset and my partner f*#ked his ankle walking out. -no parking after sunset- so the rig is locked in. I walk to the nearest phone (castle rock parking) call the number on the kiosk and a ranger shows up, all smiles, gives me ride back to goat, unlocks the gate, verifies that my buddy's ankle is f*#ked up then proceeds to run plates and write me up for parking after sunset. When questioned, the officer, still all smiles, explained that he thought a judge might find my explanation reasonable and I should try to pitch it in court, but I was nonetheless, breaking the law and his job was to cite me not judge me.
And then, as he gives me back my ID he says "You know, you're lucky I just locked the gate. I could have had you towed."
Wonder if that was Miles Standish.
Edit-Nope, wasn't him. Doesn't every area have a resident supertool? (memories of Flat top) seems like it just goes with the territory, like PO, and mosquitos.
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deuce4
climber
Hobart, Australia
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:18am PT
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Hi Khanom-
Off topic, but I just met someone with your same name. Was told that it meant "chrome" (as in the metallic color), and was also the term for the first day of spring.
nice name!
On topic: I had all my climbing and camping gear stolen at Castle Rock once, way back in the 80's. It was devastating, took me years and years to recover (and I spent my first winter in Yosemite sleeping in an ice puddle in a cheap tent due to my expedition tent having been stolen). No "tools" there back then. So it's good and bad, though this guy sounds like he needs a life.
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:29am PT
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I would have told both these tools to ram it up their f*#king ass!!!!
And I would have ripped the illegal parking ticket up right in front of him also.
Sh#t that guy looks like a full on pussy ass, anus licker, anyway.
I told a DPS officer to f*#k off last year. Now those guys are tuff.
F*#k the pigs.
If you stand up to them they know damn well they have to back down if they are as#@&%es. This isn't fascist Russia yet and complaints will get these guys in lots of trouble. If they are being as#@&%e fascists to you, then you can be assured they are being as#@&%es to plenty other people.
Respectfully sir, go f*#k yourself!!!
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:32am PT
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Just because a ranger or cop is doing the "right thing" and enforcing the law doesn't mean they have to be complete dicks about it. Aggressive and impolite behavior is NOT acceptable in a public servant.
My own encounters with this prick have been extremely unpleasant and I've posted about them here before. Yes, I was in the wrong (more or less), but I got the distinct impression from him that if he could have cuffed me and beat me to a pulp and get away with it, he would have done so gleefully. Once he spotted me about 2 feet on to a trail walking my bike (I got let off because it was frankly inconclusive and because he was on the hunt for some other evil-doer), and another time he ticketed me for expired registration. He delighted in telling me that in two more days he would have had my vehicle towed.
deuce, apparently it means "lady" in farsi :) In my case it's Thai for "candy", since I have a terrible sweet tooth.
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:42am PT
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Hey Riley
hope you're well.
Wish I would have had you there to set him straight. For my part though, I've had pretty good results adhering to the policy of keeping a low profile and, if I have to think about opening my mouth, I'd best keep it shut. I also try to practice what I'm always preaching to my students;
"If you find yourself in a hole, stop digging."
cheers,
wade
ps: got spring plans for the big f*#ker? EC08
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Feb 11, 2008 - 10:44am PT
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I avoid Castle Rock SP on weekends like the plague. Weekday afternoons are much less crowded if you can swing it.
Of course I can't actually climb for 6 more months, so tell me how was it :)
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Feb 11, 2008 - 11:14am PT
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Miles is just a strict constructionist who enforces the letter of the law. He's also the Law on the Skyline after dark.
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Off-Width Loving Crack Whore
Trad climber
SLO
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Feb 11, 2008 - 11:15am PT
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3 weeks ago I saw Mr. Standish hand out a ticket to a guy for having window tint that was to dark. This was after the poor guy spent 45 minutes looking for a Ranger to pay the parking fee (the box was out of envelopes).
Since I was waiting for an envelope too I walked over from my truck 8 feet away, asked for an envelope and proceeded to fill it out/pay. So I walk back to my truck to read my license plate and he walks up next to me sees that there isn't a stub on my dash and starts writing me a ticket. I'm thinking "is this really happening?". I let him know that I just got here and that there weren't any envelopes so I was waiting for him to bring some more because I'm also paying for camping and parking for my friends truck. He then gave me the look of death and mumbles something about paying first before parking. So I reiterate that there weren't any envelopes and I was waiting for him to show up, but I'm paying right now... "so ummm thanks." More look of death and mumbling about "Kids throwing away the envelopes."
For the next two days every time I saw him he would ask me if I had paid the parking/camping fee, twice on Saturday, and three times on Sunday ( bad memory perhaps???, harassment perhaps???) At one point while packing up to head off to another area he walked up to us and asked if we "Had enough?" and were "Leaving yet?"
Of course this was nicer then last time when another Ranger wanted to impound the motorcycle I had in the back of my buddies truck because it was registered non-op and accrding to him "He couldn't allow it to be seen on the roadway." I have since investigated this and found that super dick robo Ranger's interpretation of the law was way off. It's perfectly legal to have a non-op vehicle on a trailer or on the back of a truck.
I think a letter writing campaign is in order.
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kev
climber
A pile of dirt.
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Feb 11, 2008 - 11:27am PT
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Bluering,
Hahaha,
We got pseudo tooled in the pinns sat pm. We were leaving to head out of the west side to camp and got stopped for not having a license plate light. Yes I know it's illegal but I suspect it was because he had just seen us and 4 or 5 other dirtbags in the parking lot. HOWEVER, although the stop seemed BS, he ran our info told and let us go. I've had a few similar incidents with rangers over the years and MOST (but not all-let us not forger "officer poopy pants" aka "crispy cream" in TM) have been these check you out run your license/plates and let you go. I'll watch out for this dude at CRSP though.
kev
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 11, 2008 - 11:29am PT
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You guys should definitely report this idiot. He reminds me of a notorious ranger
in Marin who takes glee in busting Mt Bike scofflaws for riding on trails. The kook
actually pulled a gun on a friend of mine for riding a fuçking bike without any
provocation whatsoever. We need to hold the higher-ups accountable for such bullshít.
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WBraun
climber
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Feb 11, 2008 - 11:35am PT
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Hahahaha LOL Riley
I so wish you would have been around on Valley Sar back in the day when Duecy, Russ, etc etc were around.
You would have fit right in .....
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Riley Wyna
Trad climber
A crack near you
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Feb 11, 2008 - 11:56am PT
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Me to Werner...haha..me to..
And good advice Mr Icey...haha
Very good advice...
I am trying to learn that myself..
Sometimes, somedays, you have to throw down though..
It's tuff..
And I'm usually cranky and it doesn't get you anywhere except more tickets in my experience....haha
Still at least ya feel good and angry and like ya got a pair for a while...hahaha
Sometimes that is enough to make a guy feel better about a lot of things - although I suppose the jails are filled with guys like this.
And to be honest getting pissed off is exactly what I'm trying not to do anymore. It seems to be causing more trouble then it is worth in my life. "Be like Obama" I say when I am about to get angry - but I'm weak.
Heh, El Cap in the fall I think..
I want to go back to The Fishers before anything.
I've somehow ended up with an endless ass full of bills even though I made more than I ever have last year - gotta get that figured out.
Still might try to get out with Mr. Miller but I have a lot on my plate right now.
This funeral thing for my Helo buddies was pretty rough and pretty unbelievable.
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Feb 11, 2008 - 12:03pm PT
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While the local newspaper was doing a ride-along, he cuffed and placed someone in the back of his patrol car, for RIDING A BIKE, and left him unattended while responding to antoher call. His excuse was that the person making the othe rall may have been "in cahoots" and just trying to create a diversion.
http://www.community-newspapers.com/archives/lgwt/08.23.00/cover-0034.html
Standish spotted a young man named Page with a prohibited item on the trail: a bicycle. Before he could issue a citation, another young man ran onto the scene, shouting breathlessly about "some dude strokin' in the bushes," apparently right off the trail.
At that moment, Standish later reflected, his first thought was that John the shouting man was in cahoots with Page and was only raising a commotion to enable Page to escape without a citation.
Standish said afterward that he interpreted "strokin' " to mean someone was having a stroke or possibly a seizure. In order to respond to this medical emergency but not lose the now-angry Page, Standish handcuffed the young man, placed him in the truck and ran down the trail with John. Along with extensive training in natural resource management, field work, first aid and park administration, Standish is also a fully licensed peace officer and as such carries a law enforcer's trappings, including gun, handcuffs and club.
Down the trail, Standish discovered a situation that was actually a 314: the law enforcement code for indecent exposure. Although only John had seen Patrick allegedly fondling himself, Patrick did make some incriminating and embarrassed remarks to Standish--not enough grounds for a citation, but enough for Standish to take down Patrick's name, address and other personal data as a matter of course.
After sending Patrick on his way, Standish returned to Page, completed the citation process and cut him loose from the handcuffs with the admonition: "In the future, you have to make certain you know which trails you can take a bike on and which ones you can't."
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 11, 2008 - 12:29pm PT
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That sums up nicely what a kook this wanna-be cop is...
He cuffs and stuffs and cites the Mt biker, and lets the BushWacker™ off with a warning.(!)
Typical M.O. of a wanna-be cop...
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Tahoe climber
climber
Davis these days
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Feb 11, 2008 - 02:34pm PT
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Got a stern talking to from one of the PO's there, too.
But he didn't give us a ticket, though we were parked there - and in the park (though ignorant of the rule not to be).
He was mean, but in the end didn't cite us since we kept our mouths shut and said yes, sir a lot.
TC
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billygoat
climber
Pees on beard to seek mates.
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Feb 11, 2008 - 03:31pm PT
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If you have any complaints whatsoever, write a letter! It doesn't matter whether you want this guy to keep his job or not--that's for his supervisors to decide. What matters is that his bosses have been officially informed about his conduct. Without a paper trail, this guy is free to do his job however he pleases. Public input is vital to any sort of action.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 11, 2008 - 03:39pm PT
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Amen, Billygoat!
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 03:39pm PT
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You do realize that getting on the bike and riding off into the brush would have solved the problem. Right?
No fatboy earwipe will ever chase you into the desert on foot? If he does, circle back to his car and leave him flatfooted.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 11, 2008 - 03:41pm PT
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He was smart enough knott
to risk getting shot
by a mentally unstable
wanna-be cop...
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 03:44pm PT
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It is highly unlawful to attempt to kill someone who is guilty of only an infraction. Especially if the perp is going away from you. It would eliminate him from the police gene pool.
Before you say the obvious, I live in an area with mountain cats, that have killed people, and often carry myself around. Were we to both live through his trying to kill me, I would soon own his shoes, pants and car, and maybe a small part of that park.
I am very hard of hearing as I have had ruptured eardrums.
Not like Werner though...
I am a decent guy and I understand the first rule of civilization, as taught for at least 10,000 years. You dont try and kill me, and I dont try and kill you. Anybody that violates that rule does so at their own peril.
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dirtbag
climber
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Feb 11, 2008 - 03:52pm PT
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He cuffed a mountain biker?
That's outrageous!
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Mighty Hiker
climber
Vancouver, B.C.
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Feb 11, 2008 - 03:54pm PT
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A few letters or e-mails to the person's superior may help, especially if phrased constructively and politely.
I'm not familiar with Castle Rock. (Except the one in Washington.) Do local climbers there help with looking after the place, e.g. an Adopt-a-Crag or such?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Feb 11, 2008 - 04:35pm PT
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Publicly suggesting shooting cops, running away from cops, stealing their cars, etc. won't win you any points with his bosses. They only undermine the letter-writing campaign.
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A_PALOMINE
climber
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Feb 11, 2008 - 04:48pm PT
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just called them left a message for them to read this thread.
I bet the assinine posts in this will really help the cause!
you advocate shooting people and running?
what a bunch of babies.
you deserve to get tooled there.
Telephone
408-867-2952
and emailed:
to: info@parks.ca.gov
also called
(831) 649-2836
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tdk
climber
puhoynix
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Feb 11, 2008 - 04:55pm PT
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A couple years back I pulled off Skyline briefly to let some people out of the car so as to shorten their walk in to Goat Rock, the car is still running, people clearly getting out and unloading gear, Miles roars up and threatens to ticket me for illegal parking. Another time he inspected my truck, saying "good thing you have a plate on the front or I'd have to ticket you". Wrote a letter, but since he's still at it, apparently it didn't do much good.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 04:56pm PT
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I am not suggesting anything of the sort. If someone shoots at you, you shoot back, no questions at that point. Self defense is legal and a guaranteed right. Don't forget that. If you are in fear of your life it don't matter who it is. Remember Bob Marley? "I shot the Sheriff"?
Imminent danger is a complete defense, even if in the end it turns out that the person you were afeared of did not actually have the means to kill you after all. The defense is if you had a reasonable fear of immediate death, yours or anothers.
Any real cop would not pull down on you without a GOOD reason. Lots of people have been fooled by fake cops. Just last week a guy here (in my town) was arrested for impersonating a cop. Had red and blue lights in his car, a badge and dark clothes on. Had a radio like cops use. (I have a similar radio, but I have a very good license and reason for it.) 18 years old and maybe lucky to still be alive. (According to just what he had been doing while dressed up.) Here is the link.
http://www.idahostatesman.com/164/story/285876.html
This one is similar, from 2 weeks ago, only this one raped a young woman, in another state.
http://www.nbc10.com/news/15175901/detail.html?rss=phi&psp=news
Even Ted Bundy used impersonating an officer and everybody knows what happened to his victims.
And I would never steal a car.
If you ask, I'll pull my posts so that your case for the suspension of your problem child is more pristine and pure. Otherwise? Thats why a letter campaign is better for your case than running to an essentially political blog to get complaints then pointing at it and saying "see, see"! You need a clean story ONLY about the one man, not a series of anecdotes about numerous individuals. This is not the way to go about it.
I only outline possible legal actions to save your life and then offer that a major lawsuit is the way to assure that it doesnt happen again.
He didnt draw on you really, did he? If he drew his gun and cuffed an individual just to write a ticket, he really did screw up. He does that he had better perform an arrest with charges. He better come up with a goood story.
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Hardman Knott
Gym climber
Muir Woods National Monument, Mill Valley, Ca
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Feb 11, 2008 - 05:09pm PT
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dirtbag asks:
He cuffed a mountain biker?
That's outrageous!
Knott nearly as outrageous as pointing a gun at someone's face for the knott-so heinous crime
of riding on a hiking trail in Marin - someone who was clearly unarmed and posed no threat.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 05:25pm PT
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On one of the topics above, I inquired of my attorney, what is the appropriate responses to a cop during a stop.
Keep your hands in sight and dont get your papers until he asks for them.
I was told, if he asks you if you know what you were stopped for, say "No Sir".
Present your papers, insurance, registration and license. Give your name, if asked.
Accept the ticket, sign it and follow instructions, if he asks you to get out. Locking the door is a good idea, DONT FORGET YOUR KEYS.
Any other questions outside of social chitchat? (how are you doing? Fine.)
1. Officer, do I have to answer that question?
2. Officer, Am I under arrest?
3. Officer, Am I free to go?
I paid good money for that advice. It is the best that I have ever heard or read. Anything else is just playing into the game, and can be used against you or used to insinuate that you consented to something. And the Officer can do anything you consent to. Even if you didnt mean to consent. Implied consent is within the discretion and understanding of the officer. You need to be clear. "I do not consent to a search".
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 11, 2008 - 05:32pm PT
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A_PALOMINE, you are MISSING the point by miles. Let me spell it out again:
you deserve to get tooled there.
Sometimes we all make mistakes, and sometimes those mistakes really do deserve a citation. When I drove my car a few miles from my home down Hwy 9 because I was desperate for a hike, I knew the expired registration made that illegal. What I didn't know was that verbal abuse, threats and an angry, in-your-face LEO was normal for a $10 ticket. I was detained for well over 30 minutes and made to feel like some kind of major criminal, despite being -completely- cooperative and polite. I deserved the ticket, I didn't deserve that treatment.
When Miles was kind enough to let me off with a warning instead of a $270-odd ticket for having a bike on a trail, he had no real evidence that I had ridden on the trail -- I was about six inches off the gravel and not on the trail proper. It's a road bike, to be clear, and was walking it off the road so I could check out the sunset. To me the intent of the law is to avoid damage to the trails -- clearly I was not damaging any trail.
To issue this warning Miles, who was across the road investigating a parked vehicle with no occupants (possibly some people engaging in the near criminal activity of hiking), very abruptly and dangerously drove across Hwy 9, apparently without looking. Gravel spewing everywhere. It was something out of the Dukes of Hazard, and really honestly dangerous -- someone doing the speed limit there would not have had time to stop.
I think it's ridiculous to suggest running, or for that matter doing anything other than co-operating. That's not the way to handle this rogue ranger.
But Miles Standish makes using Castle Rock State Park an unpleasant experience for everyone. I've heard this from plenty of people besides climbers.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Feb 11, 2008 - 05:45pm PT
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bluering - I have to say that yes, that man is THE TOOL. But I have to say a couple of things about your story I don't agree with, namely "I'm cranking some Rolling Stones in my truck and organizing all my gear and drinking a beer."
- This just seems to be asking to be Tooled.
Sorry, but you are only attracting attention with the music at volume. And just so you can hear your Stones,... it's pretty bad eticit. And while drinking a beer? Yeah, you were asking for it.
When in the Castle Rock area, I always assume that Climbers are hated, even though we bring in revenue equal to or more than the tourons. So I act accordingly. This does not mean I walk around constantly looking over my shoulder while lighting up one smoke or another, but I don't start the day by attracting attention to myself. I grab my gear and hustle to the crag. I've never had this problem, though now that I've said it, it just might happen next time I'm there.
- I go on:
"The parking lots are FULL. Some idiot even parked in between two trees that cuts off another 5-7 parking spaces."
- I don't have a remedy for this. I have parked in that spot before and luckily there was plenty of room elsewhere for people to park, so I didn't think anything of it. But, yes, noobs have to learn that parking space is limited and people should make as much room for others as possible.
"He passes me (after checking my plate) and I say, "Howdy". He returns the greeting. I see a couple of climbers I recognize (Charlie and some other dude) and I go over (Stones still crankin') and say hi. They also relay stories of getting tooled by Miles. I go back to my truck and he's writing somebody a ticket. He comes back by me and says, "You know I can issue a citation for playing music that's audible at 50 feet away?"."
- This, I have a problem with! I understand I just told you to lower the volume above, but when Tool starts making up new law out of nowhere, I have a problem with the tool.
At this point, I would have asked to see the book he got that law out of? If it was local law, I might have fought it, but then again , you did the right thing in turning down the music. You were on a public road, patroled by CHP. Let them write the ticket if they think its too loud. That jackass, TOOL!
"I say no, let me turn down the music. I then ask if they've ever considered putting a sign in between the trees saying, don't park here, you're blocking a section of the parking lot. He says, "I can write everybody here a ticket for parking perpindicular to the road, not parallel." I'm like, WTF? I didn't know that was a law either."
- Um, isn't there a sign right across the road warning to park parallel. Its a space saving technique. I'm surprised the Tool didn't see it that way? This is obvious f%king with and should not be tolerated. Turn him in to his boss ASAP.
"This guy just cruises around finding ways to f%ck with people. He gives law enforcement types a bad name."
- I second that motion.
- True, this guy does seem to go out of his way to make life difficult for others, specially climber types. I think it has something to do with late-life-bed-wetting issues or something. Abuse of power, at any level, is still abuse. And that's even if you're only following the letter of the law.
- In parting, just don't attract attention to yourself, you shouldn't have this problem.
- Post Standish Edit:
Just read the artical from above. Standish states:
"I use this and Highway 9 as major thoroughfares for patrolling. Highway 9 actually belongs to the State Parks Service; most people don't know that," he said."
- That's funny... How much money do you think the park system pays to maintain Highway 9? I'd like to see that rule. And if thats the case, what are all those CHP doing out there catching motorcycle riders all the time? Isn't that the job of the Rangers?
- Someones confused, maybe its me? Maybe this is also a self-promotion thing, kinda like "They can't do without me because I watch this whole area like a hawk..."
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A_PALOMINE
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Feb 11, 2008 - 07:24pm PT
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khanom- you may know you are harmless, but they have to assume you are trying to kill them. its self preservation. they don't know you, nor you them.
in 20 years of climbing and camping i have never been "tooled".
why is that?
rokjox - i printed all of the thread earlier, so changing it matters not. I already mailed it to the state park super in sac, and the head ranger at castle rock. they don't take kindly to threats.
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Feb 11, 2008 - 07:41pm PT
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Some men you just can't reach.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 08:33pm PT
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You guys got me beat. I cant believe the whole thing.
You got trails leading out into the miserable fvkng desert that you cant even ride a bike on. That the start. I didnt catch that at first. We dont have that here. there are only a few places in the state I cannot take a bike and thats like down the steps of the State capital or the escalators at Sears.
WWT?
Next you got cops running around worried how you park? If I get off the pavement in the dead of winter, inches off the pavement, Im ok with a 8 foot snow wall. I just gotta be willing to lose my car if the plow cant see it in the blizzard. Honest me and the boys got these little shovels, and we shovel out a little hole in the snow wall just off the side that the snowplow dug out and it done melted out alittle. We did this hole and push the caar inside it until its just OFF the asphalt. Thats all it takes. We try not to take up too much room, exceptn the guys with the HUGE 50' long 10'wide snowmobile trailers being towed by the f350s who park just all over that damm place because they are too BIG to park good.
If in the summer I get 20 feet off'n 1 side? Well then, how I park is my business, thank you please.
And those same cops of yours harrass everybody AND might shoot someone for turning around and bicycling off into the distance???
You guys might as well live in Communist China or Poland or somewhere. Whats the hells the wrong with you? You need to get some rights.
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stevep
Boulder climber
Salt Lake, UT
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Feb 11, 2008 - 08:35pm PT
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Seems like a LEO with a name like that, if he comes over to hassle you, the best thing you could do would be to put on your best John Wayne drawl and say:
"Well Howdy Pilgrim!"
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 08:45pm PT
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uth is , honest to God. I am an honest man who tries to avoid cops. Cops of all sorts, they always cost me money and want to tell me what I should do, and I wont enter a Park with the kind of tool you describe IF I have a warning. So please just place a sign at the gate.
I see a line of Police a mile long coming at me, or one. I dont jump up and say Hey, here comes the party, I am ready to meet these guys the fun is just beginning.
I see a lot of bother that has nothing to do with me, thank God.
And I will tuurn away and just be somewhere else. Its better, I so seldom have to deal with that hole headspace. Its what I call be invisible. I dont have tons of people where I go anyway. Nothing wrong with being alone.
You guys got a disease going.
Too many rules. Can you imagine me just peddleing off peacefully, a tourist from Idaho, when somebody shoots my nearsighted butt for just being there?
A ticket for having music you can hear 50' away????
TURN IT UP MAW, I'M AGOONNA OVER YONDER!.
Thats pretty damm silly out where the world gets big. if theres people in 50 feet bitchin, maybe. Then you go further away. You dont write a fine. WTF
edit: That is the dullest video, got no idea what might have happened, too slow, no plot...oculdnt wait. Them Georgia Plates? Could explain a lot.
I do recognise the cowboys' wolf love song. Shoot shovel and shut up. But we reserve that for bad animals over here. And the ocassional grizzly or cougar.'
There about to delist the wolf. we got 800 femails some odd right now and could have 2400 in a year or two...
I have taken my dogs out with me into the woods for 30 years, hell if you add the kid time, I been doing it for 45. I think I got a right to take my dogs out into the woods and play, and I do. Not like you guys in Communist Cali.
Now as a thought experiment, mind you , Just what do you think I am going to do if I see a wolf attacking my dogs.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 09:03pm PT
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I half ta going to buy a hunting license for it thats what...
See thats what delisting means. Even the Governor (not that sissy Arhnie Swartzeneger, .... ...My governator, Governator Butch Otter. Butch. THERE is a mans name. HE has said that he will be among the first to pay the state for the license to do what may ocassionally be done to keep a vicious preditor in balance with human society. You cant have horses and dogs and livestock n' people 'n kids in the wilderness at all if you cant do whats necessary.
Can you imagine that attitude in CALIFORNI!
....AAHHHWWWOOOOOOOOOOooooooo.... bang!
...Bag em, Tag em, hang 'em on the wall...
Get a life you sissy cactus huggers, or find a piece of the hot stinking desert where you can go and park just any ol way. Do you guys ahh have to get a wilderness permit for that?
Does it come in Hot Pink?
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Feb 11, 2008 - 09:12pm PT
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"Whatever you do, don't let things get out of hand like this - someone will get hurt. In this case, the cop got killed:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8olEn237h8 "
They both ended up dead. How senseless.
http://www.bostonmagazine.com/articles/collision_course/
The cop may have enjoyed spraying the driver in the face with his pepper spray, but was it worth his life? The driver didn't draw on him until after he was sprayed. Gratuitously pepper spraying someone doesn't justify being murdered, but it is a good way to provoke it.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 09:14pm PT
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What is with all the snuff films?
Didnt that kinda stuff usedta be ill-eagle? I dont even go see horror movies. Anything worst thatn Sigorney Weaver kicking alien buut is beyond me. I dont want to see that stuff...
You cant even watch dogfighting any more, and bullfighting is next.
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malabarista
Trad climber
Portland, OR
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Feb 11, 2008 - 09:19pm PT
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I think this is the guy who had my friend's car towed while we were climbing in the park back in early 2000? Was he here back then? We had just come back from several months in Europe and my friend had out of state plates (Arizona) which had recently expired. He was getting new CA plates and we had just rented an apartment. The car was towed to Beaver Creek, it was after hours and we had no cell phones or way to get help. We had to call collect from a payphone to an old college buddy. The bill came to around $700. The a-hole had the nerve to ask us what the hell we were doing to in California. I've never met bigger f*#ktard!!!
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 11, 2008 - 09:34pm PT
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You ever hear of the exclusionary ax of merry old England? thas Where the King locked up all the land and if you was caught hunting or growing stuff or just being there you would be killed by the Sherrif?
Took a guy namea Robbin Hood to save them then there. Too bad you guys never herd a 'im.
King Dude made evera thin into a park where you just coulnt do nothin.
Sick, Man.
Then he shot people fulla arrows, just for being there, with like a mule.
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A_PALOMINE
climber
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Feb 12, 2008 - 08:00am PT
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robin hood = fantasy
do you believe in the tooth fairy too? or just the baby jeebus?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Feb 12, 2008 - 08:13am PT
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Jingy, you make some good points. I probably did deserve a "talkin' to", but this guy seems to derive a lot of pleasure from messing with peoeple.
Best to just keep a low profile around there and avoid him.
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 12, 2008 - 11:43am PT
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khanom- you may know you are harmless, but they have to assume you are trying to kill them. its self preservation. they don't know you, nor you them.
Ummm.. with my bicycle?
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A_PALOMINE
climber
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Feb 12, 2008 - 12:15pm PT
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ummm....concealed weapon. knife. pistol...hands....karate...ju-jitsu....chai vang ...
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 12, 2008 - 12:22pm PT
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So let me get this straight, are you actually saying the potential for a State Parks Ranger to come in harm's way justifies rude and aggressive behavior on his part? Am I misunderstanding?
I already disagreed with the idea of running or -anything- other than complete and polite co-operation... so you kind of have me confused about what your point is, A_PALOMINE...
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Wade Icey
Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
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Feb 12, 2008 - 12:39pm PT
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A_P = LEO?
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SteveW
Trad climber
The state of confusion
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Feb 12, 2008 - 12:50pm PT
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As Stevep said, with a name like Miles, you know the
guy is taking on everyone in the world, who're all his enemies,
overcompensating for something he really lacks, like balls.
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Caveman
climber
Cumberland Plateau
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Feb 12, 2008 - 01:11pm PT
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"How times have changed."
Nothing has changed.
"A_P = LEO?"
One, or close to one.
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cintune
climber
The Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
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Feb 12, 2008 - 01:30pm PT
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The best tactic is to avoid areas frequented by tools. If that's not possible, then try to blend in and lay low. They can't f*#k with you if they don't notice you. Any other approach is a calculated risk.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 12, 2008 - 02:14pm PT
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Hey Pal.
I was trying to be funny, but for something to be funny, a listener needs to be aware of the joke. And it helps if they know history in this case.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Enclosure#An_Outline_History_of_Enclosure_in_England_and_Wales
Enclosure (not exclosure) was a process where over many decades citizens of England lost the rights to and the use of the common lands that had supported them, their families and their lifestyles. It was characterized by the restriction to the common classes of access to valuable land. The more valuable the land the greater the restrictions. Many battles were fought and the ordinary people were slaughtered or starved into submission.
The legend of Robin Hood was co-opted to describe the fight of the citizenry to maintain control and use of those lands. RH by the way, is unknown truly whether he lived, or was a conglomeration of stories of different events. But references to RH go back to the 1200's and there is considerable evidence that such an individual did exist at some point.
I stole the reference to describe the limits on use placed on the CR lands by a prick of a cop, alluding to the Sheriff of Not. as a humorous reference.
Need to study a little western history now that you slept through high school???
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jstan
climber
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Feb 12, 2008 - 02:24pm PT
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Don't youse guys read? From the California section of today's LA Times:
AUDIT CITES LAPD UNIT ON REVIEWS
...The 34 page report by the Police Commission's Inspector general raises questions about the Department's ability to police itself............
...in 29 (out of 60 cases) it found some sort of flaw......
..Deputy Chief Mark Perez, head of Internal Affairs said, "We take these things very seriously".............. saying "they( the reports) rarely if ever affect the decision of whether to discipline officers."
There. Do you all feel better now?
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cleo
Social climber
the canyon below the Ditch!!!!
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Feb 12, 2008 - 02:36pm PT
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Miles Standish is not the only frightening cop at CRSP...
One named J. Rule threatened us with jailtime because we were entering our cars 15 minutes past sunset (it was still light, around 6:20 pm). He had us stand behind "a line" (imaginary) and screamed violently when one of us, completely astonished, apparently moved past "the line".
Us = 3 women and an infant. Yea, we're a scary bunch.
The cops at Big Basin Redwoods, however, have been very kind and reasonable.
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Joe
Social climber
Santa Cruz
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Feb 12, 2008 - 03:38pm PT
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cleo, did you complain or write a letter?
I agree with previous posters. make some appropriate noise when that happens by contacting the employer. letters on file don't go away and ultimately may be brought up in performance reviews and can make a difference.
no reason to be treated that way.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Feb 12, 2008 - 03:46pm PT
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FWIW, Miles and company deal in an area where they have to be self sufficient. The nearest back up is going to be miles away.
However, there is a long history of Miles and company absolutely going after the barest infractions.
When we worked with him and Stu Langdoc and some Santa Cruz folks on the Castle Rock Climbing Committee, Miles actually was constructive and not 'up in people's faces'. I think the guy is just looking to be treated fairly and not have cigarette butts, and glass and beer cans left in the park. But with so many users, abuse of the park is bound to happen, so maybe he's burned out on it all.
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James
climber
My twin brother's laundry room
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Feb 12, 2008 - 03:50pm PT
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My friend got a parking ticket up there once for being slightly over the parking line. It seemed excessive. I haven't had any confrontations with the rangers at the park but I'm rarely there on weekends.
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bler
Boulder climber
Bay Area, CA
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Feb 12, 2008 - 05:18pm PT
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someone should accidentally drop some tacks behind his cruiser ;)
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Feb 12, 2008 - 05:24pm PT
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A more fair/factual assessment would be that he's a power-tripping prick, Munge. Pretty simple. It really annoys me to no end when people give the "it's a hard/stressful job, blah, blah, blah" crap in defense of guys like this.
But then again, if people aren't writing letters or doing anything about it, why bother whining about it on an Internet forum. Seems pretty pointless. And while it may seem pointless to write letters, makes calls or what-have-you, at least it's making an effort.
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 12, 2008 - 05:38pm PT
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It most certainly is a stressful job. To an extent it's probably tougher than some cops have it, just because he's largely on his own.
But that's absolutely NO excuse. If you can't be civil and reasonable, you need to consider another vocation.
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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Feb 12, 2008 - 05:47pm PT
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agreed, when it's time to be civil, it's time to be civil, which is most of the time, and when it's not, it's definitely not.
We don't pay taxes to support LE to not serve the public good.
sidenote- not directed to anyone in particular...
We all know that dogs, alcohol and smoking is not permitted in the park correct? odd, I couldn't find a public source indicating alcohol was not allowed, maybe I'm mistaken.
"due to high fire hazard, smoking is prohibited on the trails within Castle Rock State Park.
Dogs are not allowed on the trails or in the campground."
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 12, 2008 - 05:56pm PT
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How about if you wear a pink Tutu?
You Calis let them lock up your "parks" like that? Why bother going.
Its the desert. We aint talking about using 4 wheelers to burn donuts you know. Its putting a single treadmark, easily blown away on dirt.
You deserve the tools. You supported them, and you let them put such extreme restrictions in place. A bunch of city boys run you to their ...
Why do I bother. If you guys got no balls, are willing to live with such complete ...
Why bother. You guys cant be saved from yourselves. When you get the brass to tell that piggy to his face that hes a prick, you might begin to see a change. Until then, you deserve the tooling you get.
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 12, 2008 - 06:02pm PT
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You're just jealous
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Mtnmun
Trad climber
Top of the Mountain Mun
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Feb 12, 2008 - 06:10pm PT
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Alcohol is allowed in the State Parks as far as I know. It is not allowed on the State beaches in Santa Cruz.
What does a park ranger make these days? $30,000 plus a house to live in? He loves the power of abuse.
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 12, 2008 - 06:19pm PT
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"I was really into the idea of becoming a resource manager. But you know--being a ranger is addictive. I get to meet the people and protect the park" -- Miles Standish, power addict.
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mojede
Trad climber
Butte, America
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Feb 13, 2008 - 08:50am PT
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bler, tacks only work on bicycle tires--try roofing shingle nails, the short ones.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 13, 2008 - 08:59am PT
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Its not about whether its a desert. If that makes you feel better, then its a GD oasis with 40 virgins and a water park.
Its about freedom and feedom. You got one and not the other.
You got self-righteous prudes running your state, who likely have never even seen the place that they have locked up with all the restrictions. Incremental-ism. Boil the frog slowly and he doesn't even notice.
California chimps.
Leave that ridiculous state and move to someplace free, like Nevada.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Feb 13, 2008 - 09:08am PT
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I hear ya, Rok. I just wanted to post some pics.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Feb 13, 2008 - 09:11am PT
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You also have to remember that a good number of the Ranger LEO's never thought they'd ever carry a gun in the first place. They thought it would be tree hugging and fire safety, all of a sudden their the man. Ranger LEO's get mediocre training and are then sent out into the real world, I used to work with the Malibu Creek guys and they were always calling for help.
And, you've never been tooled until you've been tooled by.....
Jody's evil twin.
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Feb 13, 2008 - 09:18am PT
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Oh yeah ... good times. More pics please :)
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Nefarius
Big Wall climber
Fresno
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Feb 13, 2008 - 11:05am PT
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The cool thing is...
Living where I live, with all of the incredible rock surrounding me, and having already made a single trip to Castle Rock, I'll never have to worry about some idiot ranger named Miles. I see no reason to go back.
Well, maybe if I were visiting friends in the area and they insisted... Or hogtied me... And all the bars and sushi joints were closed... I'm sure at some point enough other fun things could be eliminated to get me back.
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Feb 13, 2008 - 11:13am PT
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True Randy - in the winter you have Tollhouse and in the summer you have Courtright (etc).
I could never live in the central valley or sierra foothills myself though... for me Skyline is ~30 minutes from my house, and that's why I go up there.
Fond memories, and hopefully good times to come - thanks bluering :)
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graniteclimber
Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
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Feb 13, 2008 - 01:25pm PT
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Maybe it would be for the best if Ranger Miles was rotated into a different park where he wouldn't be as isolated and could be properly supervised. They could call it a promotion and even give him a raise. Castle Rock could use some fresh blood.
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quietpartner
Trad climber
Moantannah
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Feb 13, 2008 - 01:38pm PT
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Too gentle.
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Feb 13, 2008 - 01:47pm PT
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One problem with that rotation idea: reduced revenues.
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Jingy
climber
Somewhere out there
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Feb 14, 2008 - 07:43pm PT
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bluering - True. I hate to say it, but the guy is a pansy. Yes, he does take his title too seriously and should take a chill pill every once in a while. Maybe if he only went after the biggest offenders, maybe then he can redeem himself, but it's going to take a whole hell of a lot of looking the other way and turning the other cheek for me to give him a good name. I've heard too much bad from this guy to ever see him as a real "Park Ranger".
PS - awesome photos. I don't know why but I can look at climbing photos for ever.
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LccMonkey
Trad climber
utah
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Feb 14, 2008 - 08:35pm PT
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Well lets track down his bosses e-mail adress and fill it up.
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pimp daddy wayne
Gym climber
Manchester, VT
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Feb 14, 2008 - 10:22pm PT
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"you may know you are harmless, but they have to assume you are trying to kill them. its self preservation. they don't know you, nor you them. "
Yeah.........
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 14, 2008 - 11:12pm PT
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If I walked around thinking everybody was trying to kill me, I would be described as paranoid delusional.
Can we describe the police with this attitude any other way? It creates a mental condition that precludes the honest assesment of situational conditions, and causes them to react poorly to citizens. We need to reconsider how we train officers, and how we preform police work in our societies.
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Patrick Sawyer
climber
Originally California now Ireland
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Feb 15, 2008 - 03:43am PT
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The dude cuffs a guy for having a bicycle on a trail. Man, that is tight.
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Rokjox
Trad climber
Boys I'dunno
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Feb 15, 2008 - 06:49am PT
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Sorry about calling you guys names and laughing over your problems. I know you got no more control over your state and its ridiculous problems than I do over mine and its foolishness.
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Lost Arrow
Trad climber
The North Ridge of the San Fernando
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Feb 15, 2008 - 07:04am PT
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People that become LEO have mental health issues. That's just my observation. They get off on the power trip.
Lost
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Feb 15, 2008 - 08:30am PT
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WTF happend to Majid's Summit/Castle Rock thread? Anyway, I'll probably go up there again and say Hi to my buddy Miles. Anybody else going this weekend? I'm still not sure whether it'll be Castle or Summit though.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Feb 15, 2008 - 08:46am PT
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Rokjox,
At LEO school we were shown videos of friendly guys practicing gun take aways in the prison yard. No, not everyone wants to kill an LEO, but some people really do, do you know anyone that's intent to get you? I hope not. Sounds like Miles is a bit overboard, perhaps I should go have a chat with him.
Jody's evil twin.
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cleo
Social climber
the canyon below the Ditch!!!!
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Feb 15, 2008 - 09:19am PT
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Did I write a letter of complaint? No, I should have, and thought about it for a while. Why not, you ask? Well, it seems that the ranger-abuse at CRSP is well, well documented and known, for one, and for two, I really wanted to write a commendation letter for the two really awesome LEOs (in 2 separate incidents) that we met at BBSP along with the complaint letter at CRSP, but of course, I didn't have the names of those officers. I suppose I could try harder to find, or guess at their names (both were female, incidently). It just seems more legit and believable to send in compliments with complaints.
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cleo
Social climber
the canyon below the Ditch!!!!
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Feb 15, 2008 - 09:27am PT
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Have a chat w/ J. Rule too, fattrad.
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Feb 15, 2008 - 10:32am PT
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The whole problem is that State Parks, in particular the administration at CRSP, is definitely anti-climber and anti-climbing. Miles attitude is just a reflection of the attitude of the higher ups. And, of course, they aren't getting sufficient funding from the State. In fact, there have been nothing but lay-offs up there for the past 20 years, which means that Miles is it, the only law on the Skyline, except for one CHP patrol a day. After dark, Miles is the man with big iron on his hip. When Planet Granite tried to run outdoor classes at Castle, State Parks tied them up with so many regulations that they ultimately abandoned the program. The whole place is basically anti-climber, but since they make their money off climbers, they're caught in a Catch 22 situation. Miles is easy to get along with if you always defer to his authority while being calm and polite.
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Toker Villain
Big Wall climber
Toquerville, Utah
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Feb 15, 2008 - 10:47am PT
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With great respect Bruce that is not good enough.
He should know which side of the bread has the butter.
Still, all the complaints I read here are nothing compared to my little forced bivy/Grade V at the Clark County Correctional Center after being busted climbing in Valley of Fire.
Torture, hog-tying, beating, and the coup de grace, a kick to the head while I was on the ground.
But I sued them successfully for violating my civil rights under color of authority.
Thats how it is done folks.
(or just whine on the internet)
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rhyang
climber
SJC
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Feb 15, 2008 - 11:10am PT
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But is it not the case that other crags on Skyline are under different jurisdiction: Indian Rock and Summit Rock are inside Sanborn-Skyline county park (Santa Clara county parks) and Skyline Slabs (such as it is) is inside the Midpeninsula Regional Open Space District.
Once during a summer weekday I and my partner did get out kind of late from Summit Rock and one of the rangers advised us that he was about to write us a ticket. He was pretty cool.
It's also interesting to note that Castle Rock SP is technically inside Santa Cruz county ..
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Bruce Morris
Social climber
Belmont, California
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Feb 15, 2008 - 10:42pm PT
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The Sanborn-Skyline County Park rangers are much more pro-climber than the authorities at Castle Rock State Park. Might be nice if they busted the night time bottle-breakers at Summit Rock though. Aquarian Valley, Devil's Canyon and Skyline Slabs are all under the MROSD, who, again, are very anti-climber. However, a working agreement was reached with them back in 1996 that allowed people to climb in those areas as long as they didn't add any new bolts. In return, the MROSD left all the old climbs in place without stripping them of bolts and hangers (which they had done in 1995 on the Betty, Green Room and some other new developments).
Definitely a patch work of authorities up along Skyline Boulevard(CA 35. Plus, you've got to factor in the local landowners, many of whom don't like Castle Rock's popularity with the climbing public.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Apr 3, 2008 - 12:53pm PT
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Anybody wanna climb on Skyline this weekend? My regular partners have been busy lately.
Hell, I'd even settle for a bouldering partner, although I don't own a crashpad.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Apr 3, 2008 - 03:18pm PT
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bump for a Skyline partner this weekend.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Apr 4, 2008 - 10:04am PT
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last bump for a partner this weekend. Anybody? I'll lead! I'll bring the beer too!
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MZiebell
Social climber
Prescott, AZ
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Maybe I missed it: did anyone find his supervisor's name and phone number?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Apr 4, 2008 - 02:46pm PT
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Seriously now, last bump for a freakin' partner this weekend!!!
I'm actually trying to talk one of our engineers into going, but he ain't got gear, so....
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Maybe you should post a new thread, instead of quietly asking in a thread titled "Tooled at Castle Rock". Yeah, that sounds appealing.
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murcy
Gym climber
sanfrancisco
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bluering! gimme an email or a call if you have my #.
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Apr 4, 2008 - 09:30pm PT
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Hey murcy, gimme a call tomorrow at 8am or later, I'll be gone by 11am
408-261-1366
this post will self destruct after confimation, I can climb sat and sunday. Call....
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Mungeclimber
Trad climber
Nothing creative to say
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dude, just go to the valley
that's what we're doing.
look for the white painter pants
ciao,
M
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Feb 25, 2009 - 09:03am PT
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bump for lotsa Bay Area pics...(and Miles Standish pics)
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ohhyesss
Boulder climber
San Jose, California
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Feb 25, 2009 - 11:07am PT
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This is absolutely hilarious, I hope he reads all these responses!! And for the record i have had my Miles encounters too. All I have to say is Karmas a b!tch Miles!!! I love the pics posted of him. This is supertopo at its finest
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Jul 10, 2009 - 05:14pm PT
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Hey anybody else going up there tomorrow?
Kev is bailing to the Shuteye and my other partner wants to go late Sunday.
Me, I was stoked on going tomorrow.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2009 - 05:25pm PT
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i got a 5 dollar rei generic harness from 1970, but it works...
you know, the one in the mesh bag?
looks like a frikin dive shop bag or somthin.
i mean your goin,'oh, there's my sherwood reg, cool," then its just a harness, wtf?
at least i don't just sit there on the rock, making clicking noises with my tongue, like this guy on indian last week, i walk around the whole rock, and he is still therer, same spot, making that clicking noise, like that was gonna help him up.
i mean, fire or retire, right? wtf?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Jul 10, 2009 - 05:34pm PT
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Looks like I got a partner, you should show up too, Dr., I'll belay yer ass up!
Do it! Waterfall Wall area, er, Castle Rock Falls...
at least i don't just sit there on the rock, making clicking noises with my tongue, like this guy on indian last week
Was he Saharan African, I hear they communicate that way?
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2009 - 05:36pm PT
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im there.
which place and what time?
i'm not a poser, we just seem neve5r to be on the same ticket.
this happens.
hey, got my weight down to 160.
6 feet, and 160 = dyno city!
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Jul 10, 2009 - 05:39pm PT
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We should be at the Castle Rock Falls observation platform around 10;30/11am or so, we usually rappel in but it depends on the routes. Maybe we'll meet at the platform and decide what to do.
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fattrad
Mountain climber
GOP Convention
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Jul 10, 2009 - 05:51pm PT
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bluey,
sent u an email, I might make it.
The evil one
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2009 - 05:56pm PT
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cool beans!
i love the stuff u>-p the hill, the muffins rock.
thet would be rock and roll, a muffin and a rock, kind of like the foghat album?
fatrad, i am low on hippy lettuce, sorry, i won't have anything to share with you, ol buddy, ol guy, my friend, with a badge, who i never said a bad word about, in my whole life.
heck, i gave to the fireman's fund last week, ok?jeez, i could be walking into a sting op.
ok, it took me ten years to figure this album cover out, doh!

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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Jul 10, 2009 - 06:38pm PT
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see you there, if we're not at the observation platform at 10;30-11am, if you're late, we'll be working stuff on the far climbers right...near le Muffins...
We'l hang at the platform and pound a beer though...
And yeah, Foghat is Badass!!!!!!
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Wack
climber
Dazevue
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Jul 10, 2009 - 07:01pm PT
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An old cowboy had a great expression for Rangers like MS. He called them "Assbarkers", they bend you over, chew the hair off your ass, then bark at the hole. We shortened the phrase to Barker and bark to signal when one is near.
BITD we were shoeing up near the Bates Eliminator with some other climbers when my buddy barked softly. I looked around but saw no Barker and was about to offer to share my "lunch" with the other climbers. My buddy barked again so I just walked away. Turns out MS was undercover disguised as a climber and I didn't recognize him.
i heard a rumour he retired earlier this year, hope it's true.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2009 - 07:02pm PT
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roger, 79 in Boulder Creek tomorrow, winds- 3mph n-nw
barometric press-29.98 and movin
particulate matter-heavy
runway takan 29 Right
elevation 2949 ft +sl
clear for blast off...
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Jul 10, 2009 - 07:23pm PT
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Roger that, Dr., see you there.
Wack, I know what the tools look like up there. Even had one put his hand on his service pistol once when I talked him. As if he feared me...it was weak, he was a junior ranger.
I know Miles too....
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Jul 10, 2009 - 07:57pm PT
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Skully, that's what was weak. I was 6-8 feet away asking him questions about the Devil's Canyon closure and when it would reopen. I was totally non-hostile. And I'm pretty skinny and non-violent looking.
Totally uncalled for.
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2009 - 08:11pm PT
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if smiles mandish f*#ks with me, isa gonna beat him over the head with my gitar and rub poison oak on his shrunken sack.
see, certain people get a sack like a bunch of grapes,
have you ever seen the grape that did not develop all the way, kind of half raisin, half grape?
there are usually one or two on every vine.
well, our friend, mr sandfish is apparently the person who has a sack like that.
ok then.
is lawrence welk on tonite?
ah one ah and a two ah...
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Dr.Sprock
Boulder climber
I'm James Brown, Bi-atch!
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Jul 10, 2009 - 08:31pm PT
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hey ol Blue, you think i'm weird, check out this email i just got from my best friend:
"Ugh- Me get plenty practice on Boatface!- Hey, now you is speakin my language! Why settle for a fishy smellin hole when you can have a hot hard pole? anyway, if You really want to go to Eureka thats fine with me- I can almost garantee you'll get your shlong sucked and if its something you don't want to pursue again that be cool. Let me know what up. its an easy place to find so we could probably meet up there. I'm sure they will both be out at the river working. but if we do get together up there make sure not to spill the beans about Foxy in an inadvertant stoned moment. Leslie fills my need for companionship & intimatcy (sex)- but Foxy fills the warped desire for something twisted beyond the norm. I think that that is really the main attraction- its all just so TWISTED!!!! anyhow talk to Ya later- Modulus"
i mean, wtf, over?
is everybody nuts nowadays?
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bluering
Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
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Author's Reply
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Jul 10, 2009 - 08:34pm PT
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It's all good, Sprock, everybody gotta 'weird' buddy. Prolly climbs pretty hard though, or fishes, or hunts...whatever. As long as he doesn't go Dahmer's Delight on me, it's cool.
Over...
Alright, I re-read that e-mail...that's f*#ked up, dude! But whatever...
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Dapper Dan
Trad climber
Menlo Park
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Did not get tooled today at CRSP , just some fun climbing at waterfall wall and other crags .
I will be sad when Castle rocks closes down due to budget cuts...
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