Trip Report
TR: Hueco Tanks, Texas, 10/07
Sunday October 4, 2009 10:34pm

Sooze on Malice in Bucketland
Sooze on Malice in Bucketland
Credit: Russ Walling


Hey ya,

Kind-of a new format for this TR....

Try out these links and let me know if they work, are sized right, pic quality etc. Trying some new software out....

There are two methods to run this thing. One is as a quicktime movie and the other is as a browser driven thing..... both links are below.

Also, the little white "i" up and on the right will give you caption info if you put your mouse on it... leaving it on there works pretty good too to see the captions all the time. No way to just turn on the captions. And, if you "mouse over" down by middle bottom area of the pics a slideshow control thing will pop up where you can pause the automatic deal, (like if you read slow) and use the forward and backward buttons to watch the show at your own pace. Kinda weird, but check it out.

So far the only guy who has had trouble with this (besides dial up guys!) is JayBro! (but he still kicks assss™)

Give it a minute to load up if it looks like nothing is happening.... (eventually the little white "i" will pop up on the right upper corner) it is a QT driven Java deal-e-o and a big file too (41mb?)

Browser method: http://fishproducts.com/movies/hueco_10_07/

QuickTime method: http://fishproducts.com/movies/hueco_10_07.mov

Any problems, let me know browser/OS/QT version etc.

Thanks!
Russ

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Russ Walling
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Russ Walling is a gym climber from Poofter's Froth, Wyoming.

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Blinny

Trad climber
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:22pm PT
MussyDooHood. . . they're BOTH dead on the BigMac (G4 desktop)

?

eKatFakeBlin
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:23pm PT
I'll add Blinny to the JayBro list. Mac guys are watching this things without pants as I type.....

Got any specs?
euro-brief-guy

climber
Auburn, ca
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:29pm PT
What? No day trip to Juarez? I'd expect a stuffed armadillo or 2.

How'd that butt water thing work out?

SM
Blinny

Trad climber
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:29pm PT
Both of them fully mess up Firefox - to the point that I have to FORCE QUIT it on the LApple (iBook G4) and they're both DEAD (all I get is the intro statement - yellow text on black background) in Safari.

?

eKatFakeBlin
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:32pm PT
as for Safari... you need to wait! Patience is a virtue!

FireFox is a gagger? Interesting.

Euro Brief: special trip report for you later..... with pics!

edit: bye Wes
Blinny

Trad climber
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:40pm PT
OK. . . just clicked on the MOV one and let it sit while I did an entire sinkful of dishes and it FINALLY started working. . . it's SLOWER THAN THE SEVEN YEAR ITCH!

This is on the LApple in Firefox.

eKatTheFakeUn
atchafalaya

Boulder climber
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:40pm PT
sweet tr, cool format, nice skamper! Sneak a lap on the 45 degree wall? Is it possible under rules to check things like Kiva Cave?
James

climber
My twin brother's laundry room
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:41pm PT
Russ,
Cool set-up. Sometimes the words scrolled through too fast- I'm a little slow at reading and didn't catch everything. It'd be cool to be able to click through the slides or at least have another 3 seconds on the writing.

And, Hueco is a bouldering spot dude.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:46pm PT
Kick Ass!!!!

Looks like some really fun stuff. I've never been there, what are the restrictions that you speak of?
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:49pm PT
James et al: read the intro in the OP!

It takes a while to load.

You can "mouse over" on the bottom of the main pics to run it like a slide show. Buttons will appear.

You can "mouse over" the little white "i" in the upper right corner for captions.


side note: already did all the boulder problems I can do.... 20+ ago. Your favorites are my old FA's (doubtful, but maybe)
Brian in SLC

Social climber
Salt Lake City, UT
  Oct 22, 2007 - 03:53pm PT
Great TR!

Fun place. Haven't been since the newer restrictions...

-Brian in SLC
James

climber
My twin brother's laundry room
  Oct 22, 2007 - 04:01pm PT
Thanks Russ. Now I don't feel like an idiot.
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Oct 22, 2007 - 04:05pm PT
Just loaded it with FireFox on a G4..... seems the Fox likes to load the whole thing before it will run. Safari will do a quickstart on the QT and get you going in about 25 seconds. Firefox, I would guess depends on your download speed... cable modem it was like 3 minutes? Dialup, more time than you have left.....

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
  Oct 22, 2007 - 04:12pm PT
Took a little over a minute for it to load with either option on the dinosaurs at work xp/Firefox.

Still can't find the little "I", caramba!
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
  Oct 22, 2007 - 04:34pm PT
Ibook G4 1.33 ghz OS 10.4 Safari DSL but the slowest one.

Great trip report !!! Kudos for doing this.

It took about 3 minutes to start up on quicktime. The i thing that you talk about for the captions never showed. No captions, just the yellow script between sets of pics.

The lower center control buttons seem to take awhile to start working, but once they did it was great.


It looked like a great trip and like you had a lot of fun. I love those types of road trips.
handsome B

Gym climber
SL,UT
  Oct 22, 2007 - 04:44pm PT
thanks for the TR!

looks like a blast, I may have to try the routes sometime . . .
Blinny

Trad climber
  Oct 22, 2007 - 04:49pm PT
MAN. . . once it's runnin' it's GREAT!

Thanks for postin' up, Mussy!

I'll have TheRealBlinny try it on his PowerBook when he FINALLY comes in from the shop.

YAY!

Such a neat place! Went there on a photo shoot with a professional photograper pal of mine and our minds were blown. . . but not as blown as they were in El Paso! Shoot fire - what a SCARY PLACE. We were in Her Majesty - my purple VW bus - and were warned not to even stop in El Paso for gas because she would have been stolen right out from under us while we gassed her up! I have no problem believing that!

FRIGHTENING!

eKatTheUnBlinny
Watusi

Social climber
Newport, OR
  Oct 22, 2007 - 04:59pm PT
YEAH!!! Great trip report!!! Good job doodz and sorry about the "Wait a minute bush" injury! A bit of the "Sailor Jerry" helped I'd imagine...There was an infamous wartime tattooist nicknamed that...That Javelina looked imposing! To bad they couldn't have Javelinafest? Really cool! With good weather, climbs, and buddies...Stellar thread Russ!!





Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Oct 22, 2007 - 05:00pm PT
Maybe your screen or window is just not big enough? Pics are like 800 wide.... I'm on a 22" monitor so it is hard to relate to the little people.

Here is a screen shot of the mouseovers:

steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
  Oct 22, 2007 - 05:04pm PT
The actual routes there at Hueco on the North Mountain are pretty dang nice. Most have really long pitches so don't forget that 84m rope! Anyways...the actual climbing is recommended highly if you happen to be passing by. We'll Skamper back over there for more one of these days. Gotta knock off that Indecent Exposure dealie next time. I'd had all the multi-pitch in-a-group-of-three my patience could handle that day.

Coolest big-lose-a-VW-in-em hueco routes we did:
Malice In Bucketland
Fox Trot
Sea of Holes
John Moosie

climber
Beautiful California
  Oct 22, 2007 - 05:17pm PT
Fish, I thought of that and scooted the picture over and widened it until over half was off the screen. Still no little i .
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
  Oct 22, 2007 - 06:15pm PT
Sweet lil' TR!

I used the browser option on my PC (Explorer).
It started playing pretty quick (right away), maybe 5-10 minutes to fully load (per the bar thingy at the bottom) with a 100 Mbps connection.

I have a Dell 17" screen (prolly' smaller you know, cuz they lie).
Width is great, if I set to full screen through the tools menu, height is spot on as well.

The "i" caption option works.
The nav buttons at bottom work.
I'm sayin' this thing flys great as is.

Cheers,
The Hummer (aka etc., ad infinitum)

susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
  Oct 22, 2007 - 06:19pm PT
Moosie, you're not alone.

I tried to view full screen using both Quicktime & Explorer and NO GO.

17" screen and I can't view the top corner. I suppose I've got too much crap on my toolbar. Unfortunately, I'm unable to right click and open in another window as you only get Quicktime options.

There are photos that are completely cropped at the top and well, I never get the "i"

Lucky for me, I know what the photos are from.

~Susan

p.s. Hey Mussy - It's SKAMPER with a "k" and how come no tunes playing during the show?

Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
  Oct 22, 2007 - 06:21pm PT
Don't forget flake roof?(?) I don't believe in the little i, if only snakefinger was still here to show us the way...
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
  Oct 22, 2007 - 06:24pm PT
Hey Sooze,
My toolbar is pretty phat too,
But if you use the Tools icon on the far right, with the little gear icon (Explorer) not the general one up top & left, you can go to full screen (no menu bar at all showing).
susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
  Oct 22, 2007 - 06:26pm PT
Roy I just re-loaded Quicktime and adjusted to full screen.

It's tight but it worked, thanks!

~Susan
JLP

Social climber
The internet
  Oct 22, 2007 - 06:33pm PT
I just read some stuff about the restrictions - did you have to reserve your days in advance? How are the crowds these days compared to the late 90's?

The roped routes are pretty cool. Optical Promise, I recall, is pretty awesome.

The show worked fine. The mouseover thing is hidden - maybe there's another option you can generate where that stuff is showing automatically? I wanted to be able to run things at my own speed, which is pretty fast when I'm wasting time at work.

Geek stuff: Monitor size is irrelevant - it's what resolution you're driving it with. I run 1600x1200 on the desktop, for example. One can see the effect of any other resolution your card and monitor will handle simply by changing your settings.

Not all Java virtual machines are created equally, so any java website may appear different on different machines, or may not appear at all. However, I believe Quicktime assures a certain level when it's installed...

JLP
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
  Oct 22, 2007 - 06:41pm PT
Right JLP.
I'm set at 1024 x 768 on my desktop monitor.
And that works.
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
  Oct 22, 2007 - 07:26pm PT
Coupla primer shots...I highlighted the climbers...


Russ on Head Fox...


Felicia on Malice In Bucketland...


Sooze on Fox Trot...
Tarbuster

climber
right here, right now
  Oct 22, 2007 - 07:36pm PT
nice touch monk!
aldude

climber
Monument Manor
  Oct 22, 2007 - 08:10pm PT
Wouldn't dare open this Nuetron File with my relic dial^fossil. Thanx Steel for thinkin of the little people. Loved the *scampering* & p-shop effect!
susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
  Oct 22, 2007 - 08:12pm PT
Crowds? What crowds? in 4 days we never saw another person on a cord other than our little ghey group of 5. Besides that, maybe a dozen pad-people standing around here and there.

We did have to make reservations for Day Use at $4.00 per person per day. Typically you are suppose to call the reservation center (see link) to do so. Although, when making Skamping™ reservations they can take care of the Day Use at the same time.

http://www.tpwd.state.tx.us/spdest/findadest/parks/hueco_tanks/fee.phtml

We opted to Skamp in the park just because.... no real reason other than we're already there, they have showers, water and power to watch our DVD's.

The rule on how many days is vague but this is basically it. Registration in 1 name cannot exceed more than 3 days in 14.

Translation: Russ & I climbed for 4 consecutive days no problem using both names. Our little party of 5 could have climbed for 2 weeks straight no issue.

It was pretty good times, plenty of rules but it's better than NO ACCESS so I'm not complaining.

~Sooze

Phil_B

Social climber
CHC, en zed
  Oct 22, 2007 - 10:49pm PT
Way cool! Gotta make it there.

Sigh, yet another place to add to those that I haven't been to (yet). . .
raymond phule

climber
  Oct 23, 2007 - 05:45am PT
Great report! Thanks.

I have done window pain, alice in banana land and something more. Great routes!
MisterE

Gym climber
Bishop, CA
  Oct 23, 2007 - 10:54am PT
Nice TR, guys! I agree, Malice in Bucketland and Sea of Holes are awesome routes. 82M cordage? Wow! I got rope envy...

What? No Gunslinger pics?!?

Cheers, Erik
T2

climber
Cardiff by the sea
  Oct 23, 2007 - 11:24am PT
WOW!! Great trip report Russ.

That was a fabulous silhouette shot of Susan Steeelmonkey.

It is cool to see that you guys went out there to use ropes, I thought only the pebble climbers climbed out there anymore.

Did any of you do that Flake Roof? I remember that as a good one. I am not sure if you recall Russ I was out there the same time you were in the 80's with Dave Bengston, we spent a month or so there. $2.00 onion enchiladas at petes. Yum!
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Oct 23, 2007 - 12:35pm PT
Radical: hahaha! nice one. Keep trying

MrE: it's an 84 meter.... that extra 2m is everything

T2:no Flake Roof this time.... you and the Tweeze? hmm... maybe. Petes is long gone now. Looks like a scrap yard.

My new Hueco Questions: I wonder if you can get one of those ghey "guides" to take you out, and instead of bouldering, have them wait at the base while we hangdog the piss out of Secret Sharer or something??? Seems fair..... since the only access to the closed areas (for bouldering) is with a guide.
sling512

Trad climber
Chicago
  Oct 23, 2007 - 01:09pm PT
Sweet!! Thanks Russ, it worked perfect for me. I really liked the QT format TR.

-sling
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
  Oct 23, 2007 - 01:33pm PT
Thank T2...here's the shot...



Here's a shot of Sooze at the top of the first pitch with Russ At-The-Base™
That Indecent Exposure Buttress dealie is kind of an impressive stack of rock...

susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
  Oct 23, 2007 - 03:22pm PT
Yes, that Indecent Exposure is a nice route. One of the few routes that Russ absolutely wanted to get on. Mussy, please share your little story about trying to do IE decades before.

The route is pretty neat and the first pitch although not that technical is pretty run out with maybe 80 feet between the 1st and 2nd bolts. I was glad I brought two long runners along with me instead of just quick draws as there were bomber hueco's to be slung.

Problem with the run outs is you can't see where the line goes. I was pretty confused and didn't want to get into any trouble I wouldn't be able to reverse. Russ, yells up to me to "keep going" when I finally saw the bolt - up and over maybe 35-40' from where I was at.

Ah well, that's the fun stuff right?

~Sooze
steelmnkey

climber
Vision man...ya gotta have vision...
  Oct 23, 2007 - 03:27pm PT
Yeah, we should go back so I can knock that thing off.

I think if those routes at Hueco were sport bolted™™™™ the place would be jammed with roped climbers as well as bolderers.
Zander

climber
  Oct 23, 2007 - 03:54pm PT
Hey Russ,
TR worked fine for me. Thanks for posting it. Looks like a really cool place.
My only comment has to do with the way I usually read TRs on ST. First I read through carefully. Then I scroll up and down the TR re-reading and looking at pictures on the fly. You can't do that with this slide show format.
All trip reports are good though. See ya,
Zander
TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
  Oct 23, 2007 - 04:47pm PT
Cool way to do TRs

Thanks for posting up...lots of good looking routes for sure...
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
  Oct 23, 2007 - 07:48pm PT
I am a follower of the Zander way of TR reading, I don't want to restart. A format must leave room for free association!

cool stuff
graham

Social climber
Ventura, California
  Oct 23, 2007 - 08:13pm PT
Thanks Russ, Nice!

Feels like I’ve been there now with that kind of resolution!
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Oct 23, 2007 - 08:23pm PT
ok.... I know it is a lot to ask.... but for those of you that watched the 1st slideshow.....

try this one: http://fishproducts.com/movies/TR_hueco_10_07/

Seems the last one besides being giant (42mb) was not working on some machines and some guys were missing features, like the captions and navigation buttons.

This new one is Flash driven (I know, I usually hate flash too) but is smaller (11mb?) and should have pause, forward and backward buttons on the screen... move your mouse around to see the buttons.

same questions if you have problems, what machine, what OS, what processor, and what sort of connection to the internet do you have. I swear this is the last Hueco one I'll make you watch.....

Got some good stuff in the works if I can just find a universal format that works and is pretty cool.

I'll start a new thread for this, so if you can, post your comments on this new show there. Gratsi!
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Feb 25, 2009 - 09:09pm PT

Hueco bump
Jingy

climber
Random Nobody
  Feb 25, 2009 - 09:18pm PT
What's with the sudden bout of blatant self promotion?

Bump
Fish Finder

Social climber
  Feb 25, 2009 - 09:23pm PT



Hey Jingy


Back Off
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Feb 25, 2009 - 10:30pm PT
It's a "favorite TR" bump day Jingy..... those were of course my favorites.

C'mon, give us a treat.... write a TR about your masturbation routine in the cubicle. Omit nothing.

oh... did this just bump it?
TKingsbury

Trad climber
MT
  Apr 10, 2009 - 02:06am PT
Why anyone would take any time to add actual content is beyond me bump

:D
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
  Apr 10, 2009 - 02:20am PT
Wow!!

Russ, that is some serious feckin' content there.
Good on ya man!

Thanks kingsbury for bumping that one up. Well worth the ride.
I can see I won't wait too long before getting out there.

I'm so stoked that us seniors don't quit......
The Warbler

climber
the edge of America
  Apr 10, 2009 - 02:29am PT
A fine slideshow Russ - looks like tons of fun.

I never saw so many shots of multipitch climbing in Hueco - the rock looks fantastic.


Thanks for posting that!
survival

Big Wall climber
Terrapin Station
  Apr 10, 2009 - 02:31am PT
Glad you haven't quit too Kev!
Russ Walling

Social climber
from Poofters Froth, Wyoming
Author's Reply  Nov 5, 2012 - 11:40pm PT
b u m p for Hueco!
susan peplow

climber
Joshua Tree, CA
  Aug 30, 2013 - 02:48am PT
Bump 'cause I feel like climbing!
HuecoRat

Trad climber
NJ
  Aug 30, 2013 - 10:08pm PT
What a great TR, Russ! You made me homesick. Terrific photos and fun routes. Uriah's was my first lead...I had been climbing for 3 days. Indecent Exposure is one of my favorite routes anywhere! Thanks for posting!
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
  Aug 31, 2013 - 09:04am PT
Yeah, I'd go back...

Both versions play fine on iPad in wyo In the dead of night....
Curt

climber
Gold Canyon, AZ
  Aug 31, 2013 - 03:22am PT
Why would anybody take a rope to Hueco Tanks? Heh.

Curt
Jaybro

Social climber
Wolf City, Wyoming
  Aug 31, 2013 - 09:07am PT
I know you're joking, but can you imagine Terminator without a rope?
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