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DMM Brass Offsets Review

   

Climbing Nut

  • Currently 5.0/5
Overall average rating 5.0 of 5 based on 3 user reviews. Most recent review: August 19, 2010
Street Price:  $13 - $105
Pros:  Fits in pin scars great, works well in irregular rock types
Cons:  Cables tend to get kinked, difficult to clean
Best Uses:  Aid climbing, micro protected free routes
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Recommendations:  100% of reviewers (2/2) recommend DMM Brass Offsets
Manufacturer:  DMM
Review by: Ian Nicholson on February 9, 2010
Overview
DMM Brass Offsets are our pick for best brass climbing nut. From spicy free climbs in Eldorado Canyon to delicate clean aid routes in the Valley, these little nuts are incredible. DMM Brass Offset is a design purchased from Hugh Banner two years ago when HB went out of business. DMM made a few small changes that only improved the old design. Brass Offsets often fit perfectly in shallow flares where most other stoppers would barely hold body weight. They are available in seven sizes, more than most other companies offer for micro nuts. These guys excel when the going gets small, real small. The smallest size has only about 25 percent of the mass of a #1 BD Stopper or an Omega Pacific Wedgie. It is so small that most climbers laugh when they first see it.

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Close up of a DMM Brass Offset nut
Close up of a DMM Brass Offset nut
Credit: Ian Nicholson

A set of DMM Brass offset nuts
A set of DMM Brass offset nuts
Credit: Ian Nicholson

Credit: Steve

A set of DMM Brass offset nuts
A set of DMM Brass offset nuts
Credit: Ian Nicholson

Showing the top of a DMM Brass offset focusing on the offset taper of ...
Showing the top of a DMM Brass offset focusing on the offset taper of these nuts.
Credit: Ian Nicholson

Showing a full set of DMM Brass Offsets with a Pencil for size referen...
Showing a full set of DMM Brass Offsets with a Pencil for size reference.
Credit: Ian Nicholson

Comparing the Smallest sizes of the DMM Brass Offset Nuts and the Smal...
Comparing the Smallest sizes of the DMM Brass Offset Nuts and the Smallest size of the BD Micro Stopper with a Pencil for size reference.
Credit: Ian Nicholson

You can't bring too many DMM Offset Brass nuts on a route like Desert ...
You can't bring too many DMM Offset Brass nuts on a route like Desert Shield in Zion.
Credit: Chris McNamara

Specifications for DMM Brass Offsets
  • -Sizes #1-7
  • -Actual size range 3.7mm-13.9mm
  • -Silver Soldered which DMM claims adds strength
  • -Color coded swags

The Bottom Line

These are our favorite brass nuts. Most people who buy brass nuts use them for aid climbing and DMM Brass Offsets are the best nuts for fitting into micro pin scars and shallow pods. Even for free climbing these nuts fit the best. Their cables are less durable because the offset design keeps them from rotating if you yank up on the nut. You can avoid this with a nut tool and a little care.


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Retail Price $17 $16 $6
Category Ratings         
Flared Cracks
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Parallel Cracks
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Cable Durability
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Product Specs DMM Brass Offsets DMM Offset Nut ABC Huevo
Type of Nut Design Offset Offset Curve
# Size range #0-6 #7-11 #1-13
Actual Size Range 3-14mm 12-30mm 4.3-26.4mm
Weight for Set 2.3oz 6.9oz 15.3oz
Weight for 10.5mm-11mm Crack 24g (#6 which is a little small 9.8-7.7mm on norrow axis) 27g (#7) 35g (#7)
Warranty 1 year 1 year 1 year


SuperTopo Editors' Hands-on Review

Likes
DMM Brass Offsets are a climbing nut designed to fit pin scars perfectly. They also fit the biggest range of fissures of any brass nuts we tested. Brass Offsets have a good blend of brass and bronze, being durable but also deforming slightly to the rock to help provide holding power. Sizes #5 and #6 have a groove of metal removed on either side that helps them fit more textured or irregular rock. Sizes #1 to #4 don't have this but are small enough so that it isn't an issue. One thing that DMM changed from the HB design was to eliminate the bulky plastic color coding from the clip-in point of the nut. Instead, the swages are color coded to differentiate sizes. The smallest size is so small that most people won't ever use it, but aid climbers might find it to be their only option.

Dislikes
These brass nuts, like all brass nuts, are not as durable as aluminum models. The DMM's heads are of average durability but the cables are slightly more prone to kinking because of their offset design. If you aren't careful and yank straight up, the offset taper doesn't allow the nut to pivot in the rock, thus kinking the cable. They are more challenging to clean because of the depression on either side of the nut. This helps with irregularity in the rock but also makes them more cruxy to get out.

Best Application
If you are into aid climbing then you pretty much need a set of these, maybe two. They aren't designed for everyday use (unless like Chris McNamara you go through stretches where you seem to climb El Cap nearly every day). Constant use will beat them up compared to aluminum models but if micro-protected free climbs are your game then these should be the first brass nuts to reach for.

Value
They aren't the cheapest brass nuts on the market but they seem to work the best. If you are into aid climbing these nuts are a must-have. Pitches that might have been C3 could go at C1 with these. You make the call.

Ian Nicholson, SuperTopo Review Staff

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SuperTopo Member Reviews of DMM Brass Offsets

Most recent review: August 19, 2010
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GZimmerman

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   Dec 15, 2009 - 10:39pm
If you are aid climbing, especially in the desert, but really anywhere, these are a must have.

And for free climbing, sometimes they are just the ticket, and when they are, you will be STOKED to have them along...

Do be careful funking them, even though you can bend them back into shape (with pliers) they are no longer as strong when you do.

Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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squatch

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santa cruz, CA
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   Dec 15, 2009 - 01:15pm
I use these mainly for Aid climbing and they have performed great. they seem to just slide into the bottom of pin scars like they were made for it (oh wait i guess they were). the removal does seem a little tricky at times and you can kink the wires where they meet the head fairly easily. But using a little more finesse and your nut tool right away seems to prevent kinking most of the time. I can't wait to use them for some spicy free climbing soon!

Bottom Line: Yes, I would recommend this product to a friend.
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Close up of a DMM Brass Offset nut
Close up of a DMM Brass Offset nut
Credit: Ian Nicholson

Close up of a DMM Brass Offset nut

Credit: Ian Nicholson
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