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climbski2

Mountain climber
Anchorage AK, Reno NV
Sep 14, 2012 - 11:42pm PT
You have heard that it was said, ‘Love your neighbor and hate your enemy.’ But I tell you, love your enemies and pray for those who persecute you, that you may be children of your Father in heaven. He causes his sun to rise on the evil and the good, and sends rain on the righteous and the unrighteous. If you love those who love you, what reward will you get? Are not even the tax collectors doing that? And if you greet only your own people, what are you doing more than others? Do not even pagans do that? Be perfect, therefore, as your heavenly Father is perfect.
sullly

Trad climber
Sep 14, 2012 - 11:49pm PT
Stiil more Vonnegut:

"I could carve a better man out of a banana."


"Here we are trapped in the amber of the moment. There is no why."

Ruppell, If I'm not mistaken, that's a hilarious dig at Leaves of Grass.
ruppell

climber
Sep 15, 2012 - 12:06am PT
Sully

A dig at I Sit and Look Out? Kurt sure liked amber

All time is all time. It does not change. It does not lend itself to warnings or explanations. It simply is. Take it moment by moment, and you will find that we are all, as I've said before, bugs in amber.
Kurt Vonnegut, Slaughterhouse V
nutjob

Gym climber
Berkeley, CA
Sep 18, 2012 - 05:01pm PT
There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

I thought this was pretty funny :)

I would not personally throw out Atlas Shrugged from the childhood reading list. Rather I think it should be a mandatory high school read with lots of directed discussion and debate to explore concepts of what government should be, the balance of personal freedom and responsibility, the morality of creating something of value, choosing the lesser evil when prioritizing how a system can be defended against exploiters (e.g. freeloaders at either end of the financial spectrum), the selfish benefits of social consciousness and societal contribution as they relate to our personal well-being, etc.

I think there is a rich world of realities to be teased out of these messy issues, as endlessly featured as a graphic representation of a mandelbrot set. Heavy-handed acceptance or rejection of the world presented by Ayn Rand seem to me equally flawed. Perhaps the biggest genius of her work, whether intended or not, is the degree to which it facilitates exploration of central issues in our lives and society that don't seem to be sufficiently explored in our schools or discussed in our media.

Instead we get this dumbed down dichotomy of "Atlas Shrugged is great!" or "That's a lame fairy tale for capitalist pigs!" and a great learning lesson and opportunity for all to come together is missed.

But the quote above is still funny.
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
Sep 18, 2012 - 07:11pm PT
A "clear word" and a benevolent, pointing out the better course, seems powerless today; world events pass all such over with brutal disregard. But let us hold fast to the anti-diabolic faith, that mankind has after all a “keen learning,” and that words born of one’s own striving may do it good and not perish from its heart.
— Thomas Mann

Sierra Ledge Rat

Mountain climber
Old and Broken Down in Appalachia
Sep 18, 2012 - 09:50pm PT
"I spent most of my money and women and whiskey; the rest, I just wasted."
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
-A race of corn eaters
Sep 19, 2012 - 03:17pm PT
Sam Harris,
"The freedom to think out loud on certain topics, without fear of being hounded into hiding or killed, has already been lost. And the only forces on earth that can recover it are strong, secular governments that will face down charges of blasphemy with scorn. No apologies necessary. Muslims must learn that if they make belligerent and fanatical claims upon the tolerance of free societies, they will meet the limits of that tolerance."

http://www.samharris.org/blog/item/on-the-freedom-to-offend-an-imaginary-god
10b4me

Ice climber
dingy room at the Happy boulders hotel
Sep 19, 2012 - 03:33pm PT
if you're not living on the edge, you're taking up to much space-anon
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Sep 24, 2012 - 12:09pm PT
"Welcome to the Cote d'Azur. The work is done, the money is made, it's all free play time now."--If Wishes Were Horses, Francine Pascal

"As for the [French] Yellow Pages, even the French can't figure them out."

rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2012 - 02:32pm PT
Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex, and more violent. It takes a touch of genius—and a lot of courage—to move in the opposite direction. (Einstein)
scuffy b

climber
heading slowly NNW
Oct 16, 2012 - 02:50pm PT
There is as much difference between us and ourselves as there is between us and others.

Michel de Montaigne
mouse from merced

Trad climber
The finger of fate, my friends, is fickle.
Oct 16, 2012 - 03:22pm PT
Slack...dipsh#t.--Ron Kauk to Werner
beef supreme

climber
the west
Oct 16, 2012 - 03:23pm PT
yea sure, here's about a hundred of them:
rockermike

Trad climber
Berkeley
Topic Author's Reply - Nov 15, 2012 - 11:27am PT
'It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it.'

 Aristotle
J.Haze

Sport climber
Ohio
Nov 15, 2012 - 12:59pm PT
Security is mostly a superstition. It does not exist in nature, nor do the children of men as a whole experience it. Avoiding danger is no safer in the long run than outright exposure. Life is either a daring adventure, or nothing. - Helen Keller
splitter

Trad climber
Cali Hodad, surfing the galactic plane
Nov 15, 2012 - 01:10pm PT
speaking of ^^ HK, here is my favorite quote of hers ...

"I always knew He was there, but I didn't know His name." ~ Helen Keller

Priceless!

edit: HK was blind and deaf (i know, pc is 'hearing impaired') and she was responding to a braille teachers (she learned braille later on) sharing the Gospel message with her!
Marlow

Sport climber
OSLO
Nov 15, 2012 - 03:55pm PT
"John Gummer is the biggest shitbag I have ever met"

The word shitbag was created after Norwegian minister Torbjørn Berntsen, the lip from Grorud, had told the English press that the English minister of the environment John Gummer was a "drittsekk". The Norwegian word "drittsekk" was translated to shitbag.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
Nov 15, 2012 - 05:04pm PT
" When Jesus comes back, these crazy, greedy, capitalistic men are going to kill him again. "


MIKE TYSON


DanaB

climber
CT
Nov 15, 2012 - 06:20pm PT
If I died with money in the bank, I would consider myself a failure.

Errol Flynn
labrat

Trad climber
Nevada City, CA
Nov 15, 2012 - 06:22pm PT
The good thing about science is that it's true even if people don't believe in it.

No idea who said it first but would like to know.
Erik
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