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pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - May 24, 2013 - 05:21pm PT
Dr F , Craig Fry, i would not be bragging about your Southern Cali Bouldering Guide. From a locals point of view it clearly shows you were greedy, and complacent. The information in this guide shows a lack of experience climbing in the Stoney Point and Santa monica mountains.
also you pointed the finger in your earlier posts that you relied on 2nd hand info and then published botched information for the climbing community.
Now REPENT FOR YOUR SINS and stop deleting posts
Is it true you no longer climb, WHat happened DR F?????

Credit: pyro
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 24, 2013 - 07:40pm PT
I will respond to your BS allegations
I have not deleted any posts, that was Russ's projection, that is his MO.
and his interjections are getting a little annoying because it's just sh#t he has made up to "F" with me.

Did I ever say that I was a Local to every area in the Southern California?
No, I had to rely on local sources for info. No area will ever be able to described perfectly. Every guide is unbelievably hard to produce, and hence a lot of imperfections will have to be accepted as just a part of life, and you should just be glad that there is guide at all.

So Now you are whining about a 20 year old guide?, Get a life, I don't care what you think of it, or any other lies you want to fantasize about.
Katz sent me those photos to be used in my guide, before he published his, fact.

Here is my advice, don't use my guide, Throw it away, Use the Katz guide and the other Stoney guide. They are way better for you locals.
My guide was to be used as a more general Bouldering guide for ALL of Southern California.
matty

Trad climber
under the sea
May 24, 2013 - 08:10pm PT
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - May 25, 2013 - 11:27am PT
Dr f your small world is imploding!
Lol!

:-)
Onewhowalksonrocks

Mountain climber
In the middle of the ocean
May 25, 2013 - 11:47am PT
Really!
BlueWing

Social climber
SCV, Ca
May 25, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Catfight!!!
Quick ... Someone post some boobs!
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 25, 2013 - 01:07pm PT
Man we are tough on our own.

Dr. F did his best & yet we complain.

Guides are hard (time consuming) to put together & easy to complain about.

& I'm good about complaining.

It's amazing to me how we as climbers talk about each other.

We are climbers --- we are self center idiots. Some nice - some not so nice.

There is nothing important about climbing.

That's one of the things that is great about climbing.

Because someone can climb a big # SO. I'm glad for them.

Yabo once said to me that he had more respect for a person that worked & raised a family & could climb 10a, than for some hot shot that climbed hard & could not be polite.
Anastasia

climber
Home
May 25, 2013 - 02:37pm PT
I have an idea!

Since Dr. F and Mister E have both written guide books, it must be easy, right? It is your turn Pyro. Let's see you write a good one.

Do it and hey, you might earn some really good money and prove a point all in one!

AFS
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 25, 2013 - 03:27pm PT
Surely there's something interesting going on at Stoney. How about some nice current photos of.....just about anything STONEY.
paul roehl

Boulder climber
california
May 25, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
Yeah, and how about some photos from back in the day... always wondered what happened to folks like M. Zotto, Bill, Stan, P. Cowan, Fish, M. Jaffe and many more whose names are no longer in my memory banks... geez I wish I'd taken some pictures. Too much fun to argue out there!
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 25, 2013 - 04:12pm PT
Credit: FRUMY
Stoney stuck in the age of disco.
Credit: FRUMY

Back around 89 - 90 Jaffe had a kid & his wife would not let him out anymore.

Bob Yoho's behavior at a party of climbers when the kid was about 6 weeks old might have something to do with Jaffe not being let out around any of us ever again. The look of shock on that woman's face. They left shortly there after & I haven't seen Jaffe since.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 25, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
That's the way I tend to party. Someday I'll have to go back to Stoney and complete my RCS card.
Credit: McHale's Navy
Credit: McHale's Navy
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 11:21am PT
frumy wrote:
Yabo once said to me that he had more respect for a person that worked & raised a family & could climb 10a, than for some hot shot that climbed hard & could not be polite.
frumy yabo was right! quality vs quanity.

i'd rather read a small print-out guide which is accurate vs some page after page of boched up information guide book!

also: if i was a guide book author toward stoney i'd put Boodawg on the front cover!
Credit: pyro

p.s Dr F this is the best line i've heard all day!
dr F wrote:
Here is my advice, don't use my guide, Throw it away, Use the Katz guide and the other Stoney guide. They are way better for you locals.
spenchur

climber
Flagstaff/Thousand Oaks
May 26, 2013 - 02:11pm PT
Pyro, the current published stoney guide has its fair share of mistakes. Wouldn't you rather spend your time giving that guy sh#t since all the gym rats at The Point carry that around and spray wrong info...

Or better yet, get to top roping those creekside choss piles per usual. YOU ARE RUINING YOUR ONLY GOOD (a personal favorite) THREAD DAMNIT!
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 02:20pm PT
spenser wrote:
YOU ARE RUINING YOUR ONLY GOOD (a personal favorite) THREAD DAMNIT!

what about the hand thread?
dr F was happy about that thread..

trust me dude the guys from yosemite would give DR F an F.
Anastasia

climber
Home
May 26, 2013 - 02:27pm PT
Still talking, but not actually daring to write a guide book. Enough said.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 26, 2013 - 04:13pm PT
Mchale Great pic. of rcs card -- i've gone nuts looking for my old card -- not as old as yours.
pyro

Big Wall climber
Calabasas
Topic Author's Reply - May 26, 2013 - 05:27pm PT
spencer wrote
Pyro, the current published stoney guide has its fair share of mistakes
this is the owen guide right?
it does have a few mistakes but at least he's been in contact via email and has met up with locals to adjust then perfect the stoney guide. chris owen gives credit to the F.A because he adjusted the ken boche death route which is coming out in the next edition.

the hellwig guide was pretty good also!

P.S i would wright a guide but I feel the right people's need to write the guide of all guide books about Stoney's culture and historical value.

i nominate WAUGH!

Anastasia

climber
Home
May 26, 2013 - 09:00pm PT
Write, no wright... Wright is a name.

Pyro, You are a good man but... Just like spelling, writing a guide isn't as easy as it sounds. Don't criticize others for something YOU haven't accomplished yourself. Lots of people can judge, make noise, but few can actually pull it off, show others how to do it. If you can't do it yourself, don't criticize others for trying. By doing that, no one is going to ever accomplish anything worth keeping since the world is against them.

Now as a climber, you can rock it. Please stick to that. Shove it in their face that they can't follow you, that you can go higher, faster, smoother than most. Just please leave the anger behind. It isn't worth it.

Writing a guidebook is so much work. It's really hard not to make a mistake. Especially about sandstone that is ever changing.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 27, 2013 - 02:45am PT
Credit: FRUMY
To broken to climb, yet it was still a nice day at the Point.
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