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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Oct 25, 2013 - 06:25pm PT
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Norton you almost are a replacement Chef.
I laughed hardly,hahaha.
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cliffhanger
Trad climber
California
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Oct 25, 2013 - 08:20pm PT
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"According to a January 2013 Media Matters report, not a single climate scientist appeared as a guest on the influential Sunday morning television talk shows during the previous four years, nor were any climate scientists quoted. Most of those invited to speak on global warming were either media figures or politicians, but, among the politicians, not a single one was a Democrat. Climate change deniers on the shows went unchallenged. The nightly news shows had somewhat more coverage, and most of that was driven by extreme weather events, according to the report. But this coverage, too, was biased: 60 percent of the politicians on the air were Republicans."
Why the Corporate Media's Climate Change Censorship Is Only Half the Story
http://truth-out.org/news/item/19493-why-the-corporate-medias-climate-change-censorship-is-only-half-the-story
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Oct 25, 2013 - 08:48pm PT
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Cliffhanger ,that was a fantastic article.
Pretty much what has been said here all along,by some.
Careful ,they will be calling you names.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 25, 2013 - 08:53pm PT
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wilbeer is right - the clown car is heading your direction.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Oct 25, 2013 - 09:15pm PT
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Nature,the vision of the clown car in my head is cracking me up.
Hilarious!
I will be in CO a couple times this winter,let me know if you want help telemarking.cheers
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Oct 25, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
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No, Rick, you ducked the question. Read it again.
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:11pm PT
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WTF Larry-did you follow up and read any of the actual papers? As far as criteria, i don't give a fk if the papers counter to the phony consensus meet the more stringent standards since they don't support the position of turning the world upside down into a self inflicted dark age. Where is Baffin Island in relation to Greenland ,Larry ,and what kind of peer review do you think this desperate long shot paper received?
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:14pm PT
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Rick....Stick to building homes and leave PHD. science to the professionals...RJ
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:17pm PT
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Ducking again Rick, I don't think you fool anybody here except you.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
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The abstract never said Baffin was east of Greenland, Sumner, stop making stuff up.
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:22pm PT
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The map is upside down
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:26pm PT
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Wait ,I thought that was Chefs job.
I went back and looked,your right Chef was driving.ha
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nature
climber
Boulder, CO
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
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It's my clown car!
Thing is... I posted that and then realized the Baffin implication.
Rick, flip the map!
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rick sumner
Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
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Oct 25, 2013 - 10:37pm PT
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I see Nature and Mono, at least, are reading some of the reality based stuff. Good for you guys, but their were two questions for the snow blower pitch man. I'm off to take the wife out. Thanks Norton for bringing that paper to our attention but I fear its life span as serious science is short. It will be torn to ribbons, and I don't even have to be the bad guy. If any serious papers come up don't forget to spray liberally all over the thread about it.
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Oct 26, 2013 - 08:50am PT
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Gifford Miller, 303-492-6962
gmiller@colorado.edu
Here,call him ,or email him ,tell him he is stupid ,or he is guessing.
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monolith
climber
SF bay area
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Oct 26, 2013 - 11:05am PT
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Now who was dropped on their head, Chief?
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Chiloe
Trad climber
Lee, NH
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Oct 26, 2013 - 11:07am PT
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Here,call him ,or email him ,tell him he is stupid ,or he is guessing.
I'm afraid that his inbox is probably filling up with crank letters already, from people like Rick who can't read the article but know with certainty based on their politics that it's wrong.
Gifford Miller btw is a Professor of Geological Sciences as well as the Associate Director of the Institute for Arctic and Alpine Research at University of Colorado, Boulder.
A partial list of his research just for 2013 includes the following:
Gifford H. Miller, Scott J. Lehman, Refsnider, K., Southon, J., Zhong, Y., 2013: Unprecedented recent summer warmth in Arctic Canada. Geophysical Research Letters, accepted. DOI: 10.1002/2013GL057188
Gifford H. Miller, Kaufman, D. S., Clarke, S. J., 2013: Amino acid dating. In Elias, S. A. (editor), Encyclopedia of Quaternary Science, second edition. Amsterdam: Elsevier, 37-48. DOI: 10.1016/B978-0-444-53643-3.00054-6
Gifford H. Miller, Brigham-Grette, J., Alley, R. B., Anderson, L., Bauch, H. A., Douglas, M. S. V., Edwards, M. E., Scott Elias, Finney, B. P., Fitzpatrick, J. J., Funder, S. V., Áslaug Geirsdóttir, Herbert, T. D., Hinzman, L. D., Kaufman, D. S., MacDonald, G. M., Polyak, L., Robock, A., Serreze, M. C., Smol, J. P., Spielhagen, R., James W. C. White, Wolfe, A. P., Wolff, E. W., 2013: Paleoclimate history of the Arctic. In Elias, S. A. (editor), Encyclopedia of Quaternary Science, second edition. Amsterdam: Elsevier, 113-125. DOI: 10.1016/B978-0-444-53643-3.00030-3
Áslaug Geirsdóttir, Gifford H. Miller, Darren Larsen, Ólafsdóttir, S., 2013: Abrupt Holocene climate transitions in the northern North Atlantic region recorded by synchronized lacustrine records in Iceland. Quaternary Science Reviews, 70: 48-62. DOI: 10.1016/j.quascirev.2013.03.010
Ballantyne, A. P., Axford, Y., Gifford H. Miller, Otto-Bliesner, B. L., Rosenbloom, N., James W. C. White, 2013: The amplification of Arctic terrestrial surface temperatures by reduced sea-ice extent during the Pliocene. Palaeogeography, Palaeoclimatology, Palaeoecology, 386: 59-67. DOI: 10.1016/j.palaeo.2013.05.002
Ólafsdóttir, K. B., Áslaug Geirsdóttir, Gifford H. Miller, Darren Larsen, 2013: Evolution of NAO and AMO strength and cyclicity derived from a 3-ka varve-thickness record from Iceland. Quaternary Science Reviews, 69(1): 142-154. DOI: 10.1016/j.quascirev.2013.03.009
Wolfe, A. P., Hobbs, W. O., Birks, H. H., Briner, J. P., Holmgren, S. U., Ingolfsson, O., Kaushal, S. S., Gifford H. Miller, Pagani, M., Saros, J. E., Vinebrooke, R. D., 2013: Stratigraphic expressions of the Holocene-Anthropocene transition revealed in sediments from remote lakes. Earth-Science Reviews, 116: 17-34. DOI: 10.1016/j.earscirev.2012.11.001
Refsnider, K. A., Gifford H. Miller, 2013: Ice-sheet erosion and the stripping of Tertiary regolith from Baffin Island, eastern Canadian Arctic. Quaternary Science Reviews, 67: 176-189. DOI: 10.1016/j.quascirev.2013.01.010
Ólafsdóttir, S., Áslaug Geirsdóttir, Gifford H. Miller, Stoner, J. S., Channell, J. E T., 2013: Synchronizing Holocene lacustrine and marine sediment records using paleomagnetic secular variation. Geology, 41(5): 535-538. DOI: 10.1130/G33946.1
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wilbeer
Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
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Oct 26, 2013 - 11:16am PT
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He also owns and rides bicycles.ALOT.
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