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new world order2

climber
May 28, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
I need a fluoride treatment?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 28, 2013 - 11:06pm PT
Good one Ed. A rather stinging rebuke. Of course though you are wrong. I don't need to become more proficient at math to be qualified to understand. If the need arises (that is the level of proof rises enough beyond the political to be considered serious) i could hire out the job of interpretation.

Norton- why of course the IPCC at the U.N.and by extention the governments/corporations that stand to gain by the scheme.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 28, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
jeezus keerice Ed... Now you AND mt lion are doing psyche reviews on us? palllleeeeze..



hhhmmm so waddya think Rick , should we evaluate the oppositions character too? That seems to be the tactic at the moment.
new world order2

climber
May 28, 2013 - 11:20pm PT

NWO2, do you know anything about science or mathematics in a formal way? perhaps you'd be better equipped if you did.

No, I don't Ed. Not to the extent you do.


Why do you work for a company that produces weapons of mass destruction?
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 11:23pm PT
But you are a bit sanctimonious regarding your experience of "nature" others experience it too, as you say, you have to go out and see it..


Skepticism is real. Some of us have far bigger Flies to Tie in our lives today, than to worry about what "might" happen tomorrow "if". We choose to live our lives for today. That does not mean we are idiots. Just means we have far different priorities than you and the others. SO please, do not force your science down our throats and insist it is the only way to salvation. It isn't. Science has no way of disproving that concept either. Salvation. None.

You all do not even believe in the concept of a real Spiritual Dimension. Probably the reason you are so hog tide to this fatalistic GCC religion.


Why do you work for a company that produces weapons of mass destruction?

They do not produce em any more. They now baby sit them. ED has a far more technical title for that operation. But that is essentially what he, they, do.

new world order2

climber
May 28, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
^^^^Oh, ok.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
May 28, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
You guys are intelligent, but you don't have even the very basic skills to understand this stuff on your own
So if you guys deny this statement, then you will have no problem listing all the very basic skills you need.

Go ahead, list them.
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 11:29pm PT
You all do not even believe in the concept of a real Spiritual Dimension.

Oh I get it, the climate doesn't matter, because we are all going to die and go to a secret dreamland with candy and wine.

I guess you got us there, we would rather work on saving the planet and the future than have to rely on fairy tales to save us.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
Oh! Oh! I know the answer to that!

Because he is insecure?
new world order2

climber
May 28, 2013 - 11:42pm PT

The US hasn't produced nuclear weapons in a very long time... we have a stockpile

Too (not) funny. So, you maintain a "stockpile" of nuclear weapons.

Gee, I'll sleep so much better tonight knowing this. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Say this with a Texan's drawl.... God Bless Amerika, and all her bombs too.

I'm out.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 28, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
strike three
new world order2

climber
May 28, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
what does this have to do with Climate Change?

I would expect a person of your profession to fully endorse anything put forth by the government. You didn't disappoint me.

Take care. Thank you sincerely for sharing your thoughts in such a gentlemanly manner. Pardon me please my accusatory tone.

peace out.
new world order2

climber
May 29, 2013 - 12:08am PT
Not afraid of anything, Ed.

Read my posts to get a feel for what concerns me.

On top of the list...Being implanted with an RFID which transmits both ways. Will you deny this will someday become a reality?

What are your thoughts on geo-engineering, GMO food, and adding fluoride to drinking water?

Honestly, Ed....You work for the Man. You are, the Man.

You can't possibly see the truth, by maintaining a stockpile of WMDs.

It's getting late. I look forward to your reply. Feel free to email me privately, if you chose.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 29, 2013 - 12:12am PT
Well perhaps i'll have my son (interpreter of choice) school me a bit. Anyway there are many concepts understandable with spoken language, like the sampling method,data group choice, infilling, proxies, and language choice used in papers (hopefully sparingly) to ensure continued research funding. Now is anyone else going to get back to new science posting on this topic? Politics be damned, where is the truth, the coherent thread tying all this research together-IPCC not.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 29, 2013 - 12:13am PT
It isn't psych analysis Ron it is a fact. I would like you and the Chief to inform me if I am wrong;

You both hunt---and try to use as much of the animal as possible--that's called COSERVATION

You both RECYCLE, buy used items, and use what you have purchased new until it is worn out--nothing goes to waste in your houses.

You both leave no trace when out in the wilderness and often pick up the trash others have left there.

You both burn wood for heating at least some of the time and probably for cooking as well (burning wood is carbon neutral).

You both grow at least some of your food or gather it from the local woods.

You both would kick the sh#t out of any punks spray painting rocks, destroying a Joshua Tree, or abusing animals for pleasure.

I believe what I have posted above are FACTS!!
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 29, 2013 - 12:26am PT
I just watched a program on Einstein...it took him 15 years to prove his theory of general relativity...he was lucky in that bad luck prevented an early test of his theory (war broke out and cloudiness prevented a total eclipse from being photographed). He had already worked on the theory on paper for 8 years (the scientists who were to photograph the eclipse --2 seperate teams one german, one american) were in Chrimea Russia when WWI broke out--the german scientists were arrested, the american's equipment confiscated.

Einstein wrote a paper on why the war was unneccessary and became a life long pacifist. He returned to his office and began reworking the mathmatics to his theory and discovered a mistake or miscalculation...this was lucky because his theory would have been disproved...Finally the teams were able to photograph a couple different eclipses and his theory of general relativity was proven---his theory was very precise on what would happen and it is the only way to explain many of the phenomena of our cosmos, explaining black holes, quantum physics, etc.

The program was on the history channel and this is a poor synopsis of it...it is only relevant in the fact it took so long and he had to have cooperation from scientists who were from countries that were at WAR with each other but the scientists themselves found common ground for the good of mankind.

By the way one of Einstein's close friend and colleague (Haber) created the first Chemical weapon--never tested until it was used on troops in Belgium (5,000 died) Einstein told his friend it was HORRIFIC and that is when he wrote the paper stating the war was unnnecessary.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 29, 2013 - 01:14am PT
The Chief has bigger flies to tie, but he is back and forth on this thread quite a bit posting "proof" for his point that there is nothing to worry about..

Those Flies are truly nothing to worry about. But it is obvious your clan thrives on the fatalism of a total phantom. A growing multi-billion dollar science industry that depends strictly on that GCC phantom. The big "IF" and "MAY" are your mantra. "IF" & "MAY".
slayton

Trad climber
Here and There
May 29, 2013 - 01:42am PT
Ed, your patience is beyond amazing. Thank you for the information, scientifically based, that you provide.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 29, 2013 - 01:51am PT
Which of the following is the most verifiable of sciences and forms a foundation of modern technology ;that described by Religion,that described by catastrophic anthropogenic global warming, or that described by quantum mechanics?

Who among you can verify or refute the sciences described above using math,the closest thing we have to a universally correct language? Is not absence of quantifiable values of evidence, evidence of absence? Or is the "faith" of some of us justified if the effects of it's practice is imposed on us all? Who among you can prove that all three sciences/religions listed above are clearly not distinguishable from each other?

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 29, 2013 - 02:11am PT
Not a damn thing other than it is the most successfully applied theory of modern life and has so far survived all tests. And i know you can describe quantum mechanics and describe the religion of CAGW if it is valid, given enough time.
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