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The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:29pm PT
What is SAD CHRISTPHD is you turn a complete blind eye to Monsanto Science and their connection to the science of AGW/GCC.

Or.... maybe it isn't a blind eye atal. Hmmmmmmmmmmmm!
dirtbag

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:31pm PT
^^^^^^^
Credit: dirtbag
^^^^^^^^^^^
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
FWIW, I've used ear wax to lube my lips while on the fire line, fixed a broken fan belt with a bandana, plugged a punctured gas tank with a tootsie roll and duct tape, and lit a bowl with my wide angle lens.

Ladde Da Da.

Now you consume Monsanto GMO'd veggis and call us folks that do not sing your tune of AGW Science, morons. Nice!
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:36pm PT
Wrong again fukhead.
dirtbag

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:38pm PT
Chafe is changing the subject,
Chafe is changing the subject...
dirtbag

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:39pm PT
He should stick to trout teasing.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
Norton,,my PA was THAT man who decided to use said lubricant to SOLVE the problem. Now you can call me a liar in your usual way but this is where i tell you to go stuff it. George R Anderson was that final safety inspector for the LM engines as well. I have the awards AND token made from the heat shield of the re entry capsule given to him by Nasa and RocketDyne..Not some high school guy that wipe his nose on the SHUTTLE program..What an azzholio you can be sometimes.

Hell, ill bet you DONT know the first regulas 1 firing from a sub burnt the conning tower off if it either. Pt Mugu it was.

Yeah yur googley supply LACKS lots of details of aviation bub.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 18, 2013 - 03:51pm PT
I'll take your word for it Ron. BTW, it would be so RAD to have an award from NASA that mentioned nose slime lube!!! Seriously. Too bad those White Coats can't take a joke.

Now back to the issue. Why, specifically, are you skeptical about the link between the observed 40% increase in CO2 and the observed increase in global temperature?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 18, 2013 - 04:01pm PT
im skeptical of the AMOUNT of natural vs added and the effects of both.

Ive asked Ed what accuracy there is in prediction of natural rises. There ISNT an "easy " answer. But ive read articles just recently of the DIRE doom and gloom of "oceans rising", which if continued at the current level MIGHT ,, repeat MIGHT rise a whole 17 to 22 inches in the next 80+ years.?

Owwwwwkkkk.. And? Thats worse case scenario sort of view as well. Now im ALL for cleaning the air. Ive wanted us to get the heck out of the ME and foreign oil dealings so we would HAVE to let loose the developments of alternate energy sooner than later. But that means pipelines, which caribou seem to LOVE to winter by, and drilling our own turf for a while.
Its always been my thought that if you drain all the binders of moisture from a cupcake, youll get a handful of crumbs. I think on the globe much like this. So i do have concerns over fossil fuels. But of course we are talking eons down the road eh? But we wont have that because too many oppose drilling and pipelines, and profiling for terrorist types.. sheesh.


The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 18, 2013 - 04:20pm PT
During my several OPS TRAINING visits to RUM and Aqaba, I had the distinct pleasure of conversing with some very wise old Jordanian Bedu's. One eve around a light fire, I proposed the following question to one of the old timers:

"Do you ever think about the future"

His instant reply was

"What is that?"

I then noted

"You know, tomorrow or next week or next year."

He pondered that for a minute or so. Then came this:

"Why should I do such a foolish thing when my cup and hands are overflowing with today. If I must worry, I will worry about the next piece of wood that needs to go into the fire that is burning in front of us. Even doing that takes away from the gift of what the fire is giving us this very moment. I have no time for such foolishness."

Mind you, the Jordanian Bedu have survived far longer than most cultures in modern times in one of the harshest environments on this planet. Many of the current small tribes date back to the days of the Pharaoh's.
dirtbag

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 04:31pm PT
In other words, f*#k the next generation.

That philisophy Chafe mentions might work fine for a small widely dispersed, tribal herding culture but not the modern world most people either inhabit or are entering.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 18, 2013 - 04:35pm PT
Why should I do such a foolish thing when my cup and hands are overflowing with today

It's all relative. Him finding his next piece of wood is like us looking for future energy supplies, and more importantly, understanding the impacts of our behavior. 7 billion people cannot act like wanderers.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 18, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
im skeptical of the AMOUNT of natural vs added and the effects of both.

The stable isotopic signature of atmospheric CO2 clearly shows the 40% increase is primarily due to burning fossil fuels and manufacturing cement.

You accept the FACT that burning fossil fuels and manufacturing cement releases CO2, right?

You accept that we release 10's of gigatonnes of CO2 by burning fossil fuels and manufacturing cement, right? That releases nearly 8 gigatonnes of CO2 into the atmosphere. That is not an opinion, that is a FACT.

Can you suggest any natural sources of carbon released to the atmosphere that even come close? Keep in mind, that kind of increase in CO2 ALWAYS took 10's of thousands of years... until humans started burning fossil fuels, after which the increase took less than 200 years.

We already covered the effects. Watch the video, or better yet conduct the experiment yourself. If you remain skeptical you are worse off than I could have ever imagined.


Yes Ron, predicting the future is difficult... and remaining ignorant is easy.

BTW, fossil fuels are expected to last a couple hundred years at most.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 18, 2013 - 04:52pm PT
Ron

I don't give a damn about your "pa". get it?


and listen you undereducated dumb fuk....no I don't believe for one minute your cute little "story" that the space shuttle's O rings were lubricated because some guy without a day of college, as you put it, wiped his nose and applied it to the O rings and that is what made such a good seal

not for one fuking minute

but again, if you make it up in your little head, then it just must be true

just like the dead coming back to life crap you also believe
TMJesse

Mountain climber
Olympia, WA
Jun 18, 2013 - 04:58pm PT
Public News Service

June 17, 2013

Climate Change: Threat to National Security Says Pentagon

Audio Clip

Global warming is turning up the heat on national security, according to the Pentagon. Factors that military strategists now must consider include global food and water scarcity. These can lead to populations migrating, with all the potential conflicts that could create.
According to Assistant Secretary of the Army for Installations, Energy and the Environment Katherine Hammack, preparing for climate change has become a constant concern.
"Although the effects of climate change alone do not cause conflict, they act as accelerants of instability, which influences our operating environment roles and mission," Hammack said.
Concerns about climate change are prompting the Defense Department (DOD) to reach out for more input, including a public meeting set for Tuesday in Fayetteville with representatives of the Pentagon and President Obama's Cabinet. They will also tour Fort Bragg, which has a long history of sustainability practices.
Hammack pointed to recent weather events as evidence of climate change, including tornadoes in the Midwest and Colorado wildfires. She noted that the 12 hottest years on record have occurred in the last 15 years, and she said extreme weather is also placing demands on the DOD itself.
"The Department of Defense needs to adjust to the impact climate change will have on our facilities, because our operational readiness hinges on continued access to land, air, sea training and test space," she said.
The team from Washington, D.C., is in North Carolina, in part, to recognize the long-term focus at Fort Bragg on being "cleaner and greener" in its everyday operations, she added.
"Fort Bragg really has a tremendous sustainability program and has been focused on resource conservation for many years," she explained.
DOD installations work hard to use less water and power, she said, in order to place fewer demands on resources that are also needed by others in their local communities.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 18, 2013 - 05:11pm PT
Hey Norton aka loudmouff, aka azzholoio,, my PA used that trick on the LUNAR MODULE engiens,, NOT the space shuttle.. You DO KNOW the diff right? .. So if yur gonna spread yur gape and let that shyt fly you might as well be correct in it eh? And GFYS..Twice even.. I give nary a shite one - what you believe. Mr " ive read everything about space" BuwAAAAHahahahahahaaaaa gud one..
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 18, 2013 - 05:18pm PT
7 billion people cannot act like wanderers.

Soon will be 10-11 by the year 2025.

Screw AGW. Where the fk do you plan on putting em all and how you gonna feed em? Please answer that Nalesnav.

That old wise Bedu insisted that what is NOW, prevails. He btw was turning 92 the following week. Was as sharp as a razor, still walked/rode his camel upwards of 20 miles per day in the desert. Still gathered his own food, water and fire wood. Daily. He most certainly was one badass mofo.

"The Department of Defense needs to adjust to the impact climate change will have on our facilities, because our operational readiness hinges on continued access to land, air, sea training and test space," she said.

All the while, the US DOD is the largest consumer of Aviation FF's the world over. Bar none! And when deployed, all them fancy regs are left back in CONUS.

Oh the hypocrisy prevails.


Yes Ron, predicting the future is difficult.

More so for your ill prepared ass. Earwax for lips. Bullshet. Going into battle ill prepared just goes to show your lack of focus to reality. I'd hate to imagine that if you forgot something as simple as Chapstick, what the fk else did you leave back on the table where your IPAD sat?
dirtbag

climber
Jun 18, 2013 - 05:28pm PT
^^^^^^^so says Chief Hypocrite^^^^^^^^
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Jun 18, 2013 - 05:36pm PT
You gotta ref for that claim BlondBAG.? Never mind. Just another oxycotin smoking post of yours. Got it.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 18, 2013 - 05:46pm PT
Chief, do everyone a favor and go climb some choss.
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