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The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
Dr F how can anyone take you seriously with your rigid ideology and ridulous attack dog style?

RICK. Attack dog? Nope. You ever hear a rabbit squeal just before it dies. More akin to DrF's posts. He is in the Talon's of doom. Squealing.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 28, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
in fact, I think you would be surprised if he ever told the truth of who he voted for

chief said:
Obama, twice.

as I suspected, thank you

see Dr F?

and NO, there were likely NONE "right wingers" that voted for the President

by definition, but they did vote to put Caribou Barbie one heartbeat of John McSame away from being Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces

thank you chief

and now, off to the torture chamber known as the Fitness Center......
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
Chiloe, thanks for keeping some of us informed.

Unfortunately I think the morans have won when a discussion of science degrades into a discussion of political candidates. The morans don't know the difference and those who do are apparently so flabbergasted by their ignorance that they indulge the idiocracy.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 28, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
FACTS:

Ron is at least part Choctaw native american. Likes to climb. Seems to love nature and wildlife. Was friends with Dano and has some comments on other threads that make me think he would be cool at the campfire (pretty much guaranteed to be cool IMO). This thread and the Repugs thread are really my only problem with his viewpoint. I bet he does things to save our environment without even thinking. Probably has a garden and probably recycles.

Chief has solar power, rides bikes and hikes to places (truth be told probably more than he drives). I bet he recycles and has a garden. He did serve our country. Risks his life to rescue people. Being a military man he definitely has a drinking problem (he admitted he is an alcoholic--SO AM I by the way). Raised a family well enough for them to be successful. He is also married---most women won't put up for a total ahole forever (IMO). I don't know anybody who climbs hard, was in the military, and parties I didn't have a good time with in JT.

My point being that we all have gotten too worked up about this and most likely we would have more respect for opposing viewpoints in person. Like the Chief I am a man of action--DO something don't talk about it--I think they are doing something to combat climate change but not for that reason...I don't care what your reason is if you only bike for you--great but it still is one less car on the road. Have a garden to save money or just enjoy it--great! Have solar--for any reason GREAT!!!

I am probably the biggest A$$hole I know when I feel a reason to be one...this thread has made me be one...and I regret it after reading Anastasia's thread.

Rick--I just don't like people who were born on third base and think they hit a triple---I'd key your Jaguar or whatever you drive in hidden valley :)
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 28, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
Where Chiloe, surface, 700 meters-the limit to their depth, worldwide, regional-where?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 28, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
endless loop of Lebification on display
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
Rick, you can read... can't you?

Where Chiloe, surface, 700 meters-the limit to their depth, worldwide, regional-where?

The title says "0-2000m Global..." I'm pretty sure that answers all of your above questions.




FWIW, I don't doubt some of those guys are good people, but their willful ignorance and adamantly uninformed position on the subject deserves all the ridicule in the world.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
May 28, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
Rick, basic info and many related graphs are at the link I gave above. Here it is again:
http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/

More detail (pdf) here:
http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/woa/PUBLICATIONS/grlheat12.pdf

Further explanation (pdf of PowerPoint) here:
http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/woa/DATA_ANALYSIS/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/PDF/heat_content_differences.pdf
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
but their willful ignorance and adamantly uninformed position on the subject deserves all the ridicule in the world.
Ego at it's best man of science. Exactly why I totally disdain humanoids as yourself. Pompous brat. At best.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
If ignorance is bliss, why does Chaff always seem so upset?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
The Chief hates the Government, check
The Chief says the Gov. is the problem, not the solution, check
The Chief hates the elite, check
The Chief is in lockstep with various propaganda groups, check
The Chief distrusts science due to said propaganda, check
The Chief is an Authoritarian follower, as shown from his military service and his devotion to right wing causes, check
The Chief argues from a stance of ignorance, and never allows facts to disrupt his ideology, check
The Chief calls us names and followers in a raging state of projection, check

you could substitute Bluering, rong or rick sumner in place of The Chief, and it would be exactly the same.


So with all due respect Norton, I think I have won this small debate.
My right wing friend at work voted for Obama twice, he had no choice!


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
The Chief, how can anyone take you seriously with your rigid ideology and ridulous attack dog style?

I fixed it for you rick
what exactly did I say that attack dog style?
Pure Projection
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 28, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
if the military is a right wing cause, how come they protect leftys too? Your logic,, doc,, is "askew"..
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
more righties join the military than bleeding heart libs, fact
The libs have a future and an education to get on with

none of the wars we had in the last 40 years did any protecting for me nor America, they just made us more enemies and killed alot of people for nothing

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 28, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
doc,, JUST in the fact they are here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
Craig (DRF)

WTF are you doing posting on ST during working hours? Are you not a County Paid Employee? Just another example of the OC's tax payers money well spent. NOT! Just another G-Man wasting the peoples money.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
JUST in the fact science is here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
JUST in the fact science is here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.

From what?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
No The Chief, I am NOT a Government employee, I work for a Private Environmental Consulting firm, Corporations hire us to measure their industrial emissions to demonstrate that they are in Compliance with the Districts Pollution Limits.

You made that all up, I told you before that I do not work for the Gov.
yet you will just make up any crap that suits your BS delusions.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
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