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The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
but their willful ignorance and adamantly uninformed position on the subject deserves all the ridicule in the world.
Ego at it's best man of science. Exactly why I totally disdain humanoids as yourself. Pompous brat. At best.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
If ignorance is bliss, why does Chaff always seem so upset?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:17pm PT
The Chief hates the Government, check
The Chief says the Gov. is the problem, not the solution, check
The Chief hates the elite, check
The Chief is in lockstep with various propaganda groups, check
The Chief distrusts science due to said propaganda, check
The Chief is an Authoritarian follower, as shown from his military service and his devotion to right wing causes, check
The Chief argues from a stance of ignorance, and never allows facts to disrupt his ideology, check
The Chief calls us names and followers in a raging state of projection, check

you could substitute Bluering, rong or rick sumner in place of The Chief, and it would be exactly the same.


So with all due respect Norton, I think I have won this small debate.
My right wing friend at work voted for Obama twice, he had no choice!


Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:19pm PT
The Chief, how can anyone take you seriously with your rigid ideology and ridulous attack dog style?

I fixed it for you rick
what exactly did I say that attack dog style?
Pure Projection
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 28, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
if the military is a right wing cause, how come they protect leftys too? Your logic,, doc,, is "askew"..
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:27pm PT
more righties join the military than bleeding heart libs, fact
The libs have a future and an education to get on with

none of the wars we had in the last 40 years did any protecting for me nor America, they just made us more enemies and killed alot of people for nothing

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 28, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
doc,, JUST in the fact they are here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
Craig (DRF)

WTF are you doing posting on ST during working hours? Are you not a County Paid Employee? Just another example of the OC's tax payers money well spent. NOT! Just another G-Man wasting the peoples money.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
JUST in the fact science is here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
JUST in the fact science is here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.

From what?
Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 04:43pm PT
No The Chief, I am NOT a Government employee, I work for a Private Environmental Consulting firm, Corporations hire us to measure their industrial emissions to demonstrate that they are in Compliance with the Districts Pollution Limits.

You made that all up, I told you before that I do not work for the Gov.
yet you will just make up any crap that suits your BS delusions.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
polio
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
I work for a Private Environmental Consulting firm, Corporations hire us to measure their industrial emissions to demonstrate that they are in Compliance with the Districts Pollution Limits.

OH-SHet! Even worse than a G-Man. Bought off Big Money Corporations analyst.

Polio

You still don't get it WesCrispi. Still do not get it.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 28, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
Popping in occasionally from the field. I have a stupid science question. During periods of continental glaciation the atmospheric CO2 content generally, but not always, decreases. According to interpretations i've deciphered this is due to increased absorption capacity of cooling oceans and increased uptake by foraminifera whose mass increases. This doesn't make sense to me since cooler climates decrease forests and desert and other arid land areas decrease CO2 uptake by less weathering. It seems like the first condition cited above would be offset by the second. So my question is; are their studies out there examining the roles of the entire solar radiant spectrum and its effects on the more complex atmospheric molecules and likewise with cosmic Rays and other extrasolar particles/energy fluxes.Since the earth and suns geomagnetic fields fluctuate could times of low shielding effects of magnetic fields allow more complex molecules to be broken down at accelerated rates. Probably a stupid question, but i thought i would ask you guys to get back to more science content.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 05:08pm PT
Polio: You still don't get it

Yep, thanks to science, not many people do these days.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 28, 2013 - 05:19pm PT
Ron said:

if the military is a right wing cause, how come they protect leftys too? Your logic,, doc,, is "askew"..

good point, Ron

our US military is decidedly NOT a "right wing cause", it is both political party's support and funding for our mutual National Security

there are no Democrats or Republicans in war zones, just guys fighting and dying primarily for each other as comrades and because they took an oath to defend the USA.

Dr. F.

Big Wall climber
SoCal
May 28, 2013 - 05:24pm PT
Hence, My logic was Not askew, only rong's post was askewww
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 28, 2013 - 05:40pm PT
Thanks for the graphs and links Chiloe...Thanks Ed for all the time and work you have spent explaining the science (the papers themselves are tedious but you make it easier to understand).

I DON'T believe the Chief or Ron dislike science...how can you be surrounded by beauty that is nature. The insects, animals, plants, of all shapes and sizes, the geologic complexity of rock with dykes, spots, pockets, stains, and crystals without wondering how they were made and how long they will last.

As far as having hatred for elites---the Chief posted in the last 2 days what appears to be his work with elite soldiers (unless I'm mistaken that Delta is not elite). Ron climbed with the most graceful if not the best climber ever in Dano and has mentioned countless times the inferior work he has to compete with in taxidermy today (he must be pretty good or elite at it).

I dislike them putting Ed, Base, and Chiloe down because they are obviously talented scientists. I believe the science they have provided us with on this forum. I continue to do my own research as well and the vast majority of it PROVES THE CLIMATE IS CHANGING TOO RAPIDLY TO BE EXPLAINED WITHOUT HUMANS BEING A CAUSE!!!

All of this leads me to believe this is just entertainment for Ron and the Chief...something to do to break up what would other wise be a boring day. Willfully ignorant that is Rick but Ron and the Chief are just trolling...enjoying us getting worked up and then continueing to love nature just as much as us. Still recycling, Leaving no trace, Using solar, eating fresh veggies from their garden or making use of every part of an animal they killed, biking or hiking more than the average human.

I will never believe they don't like science especially after watching and reading about all the rigging and calculations that went into Dano's jumps...
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 06:47pm PT
Popping in occasionally from the field. I have a stupid science question. During periods of continental glaciation the atmospheric CO2 content generally, but not always, decreases. According to interpretations i've deciphered this is due to increased absorption capacity of cooling oceans and increased uptake by foraminifera whose mass increases. This doesn't make sense to me since cooler climates decrease forests and desert and other arid land areas decrease CO2 uptake by less weathering. It seems like the first condition cited above would be offset by the second. So my question is; are their studies out there examining the roles of the entire solar radiant spectrum and its effects on the more complex atmospheric molecules and likewise with cosmic Rays and other extrasolar particles/energy fluxes.Since the earth and suns geomagnetic fields fluctuate could times of low shielding effects of magnetic fields allow more complex molecules to be broken down at accelerated rates. Probably a stupid question, but i thought i would ask you guys to get back to more science content.

You deniers are a total panic! It reminds me of the last time I bought some gold stock. I figured how hard can it be ? I had a little inside dope, gold price was going up, India was on fire so what the fuk?

Ever since then, and in combination with similar lessons learned when swimming with the sharks, I hire those who know what they are doing. It takes a bit of work to find someone of trust and you better pay them what they want, but the alternative sucks..... unless you are willing to do the work to be independent and don't short change yourself in guessing what that involves.

Hey Rick, I'm thinking of building a nuclear reactor in my back yard - can you come and give me some advice?
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 28, 2013 - 07:31pm PT
I am sure glad i do not know proper discussion etiquette in this one here.
If theres one thing i defend since i was a boy scout ,it has been the enviornment.
NOT SORRY. You men have proved nothing yourselves,but one thing,especially after attacking scientists like Ed,Base,Chiloe, etal .
There is only one way to talk to you....see post 9072.
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