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McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 21, 2013 - 11:39am PT
Neither his Dust bowl wiki page or Ken Burns documentary mention the causes effecting the rapid desertification that occurred.

If anyone knows of any theories I'd love to hear it.

Bruce, in the wiki article they did mention farming practices but I noticed no temps. Here's an article I was reading that talks about Arctic Ice anomalies from that period and they might be related. Even in 1930, CO2 concentrations were already climbing, but especially black particle contamination was probably significant - but I bring that up on my own;
http://judithcurry.com/2013/04/10/historic-variations-in-arctic-sea-ice-part-ii-1920-1950/

There's interesting reading and good links in there. It seems like relatively balanced discussion too.

mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 21, 2013 - 11:42am PT
Ron, orbital variations have been looked at in detail. They explain the major glacical periods pretty well.

But they are ABSOLUTELY NOT responsible for the recent observed changes in global climate. ABSOLUTELY 100% NOT.

Sure models aren't perfect, just like your dead things aren't alive... but mounting a trout on a sage branch? That's fuking retarded.

Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 21, 2013 - 11:48am PT
But they are ABSOLUTELY NOT responsible for the recent observed changes in global climate. ABSOLUTELY 100% NOT.

Correct

And it is the thinning of the earth's ozone layer
that is causing the warming increase
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 21, 2013 - 11:51am PT
Yeah Ron, Where is Knotts? I have it from reliable sources that their was complaint to mac. So you can begin to see the depths of their desperation, when somebody mounts an effective counter campaign against them they plead for removal. Me- Norton? no, not me , i haven't even begun yet.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 21, 2013 - 11:53am PT
I looked,, "Knotts- members account deactivated"...


R U KIDDING ME?



Whos the "snitch"?
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 21, 2013 - 11:56am PT
Although I did not 'snitch' we all deserve a little bit more serious discourse. How far do you want to lower the bar Ron?

depths of their desperation
Yeah, for a more serious discussion.
raymond phule

climber
May 21, 2013 - 11:57am PT

So you can begin to see the depths of their desperation, when somebody mounts an effective counter campaign against them they plead for removal.

Hilarious!

Effective counter campaign?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 21, 2013 - 11:58am PT
Mchale, i believe the bar is resting on the ground at this time. If ya cant beat em, ban em...yeesh. MANGINA alert!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 21, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
That guy was below ground and you know it. People don't get banned from blogs unless they are total bull and detract from the purpose of the thread. It's the law! :>)
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 21, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
i dont have a crystal ball like some here, and i dont know who knotts was. But i see his account deactivated. That is science terms is a "known"..
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 21, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
"Knotts- members account deactivated"...

wow

well, I know of absolutely NO reason why this happened

nothing on THIS thread that he said was in any way worthy of banning

maybe he said something on another thread OR maybe he sent an nasty ass email to someone...
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 21, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
On the other hand, I spend too much time here anyway.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 21, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
what are you 18 elcono? perhaps you get a groove out of looking a t a friggin used prophylactic but its my THEORY that you stand alone here.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 21, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Well if it isnt the tri personality of Dick Sumner.
You know your right.
How would anybody else know of knotts disbarment?
You are right.
I have seen a pic of you there Dick,looks ALOT like the cheif.
You are always RIGHT.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 21, 2013 - 01:18pm PT
Yeah Ron, Where is Knotts? I have it from reliable sources that their was complaint to mac.

Have you been chatting with Lord Bunkton again?

Well, I for one will miss him. I think we were just starting to hit it off.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 21, 2013 - 01:29pm PT
The account has been deactivated and KNOTT by KNOTTs.

Some should feel a twinge of shame..nameless avatars are plenty round here, no one confesses when asked. pfffft. Weak suasage..
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 21, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
Who is Bharta? I looked up his posts and all are right wing polititard rants...His recent posts about 'Taxpayer funded Green Energy Scams" stealing funds from Tornado victims are a bit disturbing.

Rong I think you do good Taxidermy work!! I just am asking how you prove it is a stuffed animal (taxidermy) versus a high quality painted ceramic when we view it over the internet...All I'm saying is it's hard for you to do!! If I post a false ad saying your work is really ceramics--how can you refute me---kind of like all the false b.s. Bharta posts it is hard/time consuming to refute!!!

By the way I declare victory (like Rick Sumner)---we have gotten Ron to admit the climate is CHANGING!!!Now all we have to do is get him to do some research into how much CO2 is put into the atmosphere each year by volcanic eruptions and other natural sources versus how much CO2 is put into the atmosphere by humans burning shit!! I am confident if RON does the research he will be convinced it is correct...I will begin holding my breath NOW...
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 21, 2013 - 01:35pm PT
I asked about Knott's last night when someone mentioned we wouldn't see him post anymore---he mentioned something about us libs having our nose up the a*# of the sheep in front of us...

I guess he got banned by emailing someone...I will go back to my posts and see who it was that posted he would be gone...
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 21, 2013 - 01:39pm PT
Monolith posted this last night:
Say goodbye to Knotts, aka, The Chief.

Clever choice of avatar, considering how nautical it and The Chief are.

Then K-man posted he wouldn't be missed...

I posted next asking if Knott's was indeed banned...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 21, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
Lion,, you keep confusing the fact that NO ONE HERE is saying the climate isnt changing and NO ONE here is saying we shouldnt take steps to reduce all manner of pollution as best we can. NOT ONE PERSON.. OK? Its not that youve got me to "admit" anything as obvious fact is fact. As FAR AS WE KNOW, which IS the issues raised here. Just so your clear on that mmk?

The issues raised is the effect therein and comparisons of natural vs man made, never mind "indicator" species the global warming science once used as a poster child. There are many holes and not just in the ozone.
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