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dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 05:43pm PT
He could also spend half a minute googling and find countless articles from credible sources, if he was truly interested (which he is not).
AndyMan

Sport climber
CA
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:15pm PT
Mann's "hockey stick" is discredited. It was based primarily on one tree in the Urals, then Mann "hides" data that shows cooling after 1960 and replaces it with Hadcrut3 data. He has been fighting fraud cases in court. Regardless, warming provides zero evidence that man has caused it.

What is the EVIDENCE that MAN has caused any of the warming since the Little Ice Age ... the warming that STOPPED 2 decades ago ...

Which graph is "natural" global warming and which one is supposed to b...
Which graph is "natural" global warming and which one is supposed to be caused by man (or was that Mann) ?
Credit: AndyMan
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:18pm PT
Not just Mann, the reconstructions have been repeated by others including Marquette.

Global warming stopped 20 years ago? You are quite the joker. Really, 1993?

We started emitting considerable C02 starting in the 19th century.



If you want to deny the spike in temperature, go ahead. You just look like a denier.

And some more basic refreshers for you.



dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:31pm PT
Andyman is probably just another chief avatar. He did that a couple of months ago.

Notice how chief is currently responding to other threads right now, meaning, he is online, and andyman is responding to this one?
nature

climber
Boulder, CO
Aug 21, 2013 - 06:35pm PT
If Andyman is The Chief it just goes to show how weak The Chief and his denier stance is. And it goes to show he knows it. That's be best part.

A better man would realize that in the face of overwhelming evidence that they are wrong and admit it. Or... you could create a new avatar to help divert the fact that you were fooled.

If you have to resort to creating a new avatar to not look like more of a fool you're really hurting.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Aug 21, 2013 - 08:42pm PT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols

Aug 21, 2013 - 05:14pm PT
There are so many stupid idiots in America

So Dr. Steve Schneider is also one of them stupid idiots. Got that as well.

THINKPROGRESS????? A "credible source"????

"“Best Liberal Blog” in the 2006"


Far worse totally bias liberal propaganda source than the Daily Kos.


Another pure example how none of this has to do with the environment. Nothing. Has everything to do with a political ideology. That is per your source, "THINKPROGRESS".
WBraun

climber

Aug 21, 2013 - 05:17pm PT
Bruce Kay STFU you stupid moron.

By posting that link proves you are stupider than all stupidity.

Go fuk yourself you stupid aszhole ......





I was wondering how Syria was allowed to gas their own people - so I wandered over to StupidTopo to see how governments can use stupid ideas to divide 'we the people' to the point that they could care less about killing their fellow citizens as long as they don't agree on something. Gore is likening deniers on this topic to all sorts of horrible people - how far can you guys take this?

How does a government get to kill so many people with other people who live in that country? Well, you can't do it if they love each other. Bunch of whiney little kids in a playground are easy to make fight each other though. Of course Werner is above all that stupid American bickering though.


DIVIDE AND CONQUOR!
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Aug 21, 2013 - 08:56pm PT
You hit a double bullseye Bruce.
WBraun

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 08:58pm PT
I was wondering how Syria was allowed to gas their own people


Never was Syria.

You've been totally stupidly fallen under the lies of the US main stream media.

Do some real research instead of just spouting out junk like this.
tooth

Trad climber
B.C.
Aug 21, 2013 - 09:22pm PT
Never was Syria.

You've been totally stupidly fallen under the lies of the US main stream media.

Do some real research instead of just spouting out junk like this.

I'll honor your 'inside' knowledge superceeding your own media and your distrust for it and can use one of a million other examples of history of the same thing. The principle remains the same. Fight and bicker like children, or be united, strong and free.
WBraun

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 09:32pm PT
Tooth -- "Fight and bicker like children, or be united, strong and free."

I agree with you.

The divide and conquer method is also not the only method being used right now in our world.

There's some seriously sick devious methods being used on the populace without their awareness these days.

Also I don't believe one iota that Ed would knowingly consider any involvement in the advancement of any WMD against mankind.

It's just not him ......
dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 09:38pm PT
Andy Man is Not me.


Maybe, maybe not. But considering you've done it before--recently--your credibility on this is less than zilch.

So next time you bark about liars, hypocrites, etc., kindly STFU, because you are their king--er, Chief.
WBraun

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 09:40pm PT
Another thing Ed is actually pretty open minded although you may not actually catch that in his posts here.

But he expresses that at various times in a subtle way.



TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 21, 2013 - 09:57pm PT
Ward Trotter

Trad climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 10:18pm PT
In addition, the current administration, and many others involved with nuclear security policy, have begun to lay the groundwork for a reduction to zero nuclear weapons. This will take some time to achieve, but the activities of the US labs involved in the nuclear security mission will be involved in this ongoing process.

Zero nuclear weapons???

Do the" US labs" have a method for insuring that , for instance, North Korea will forfeit their little arsenal along with every other poop-shoot nation with a sociopathic dictator and notorious grudge?

The idea that the current nuclear superpowers would willingly reduce their nuclear arsenal in light of the real world we live in ,is the most juvenile and laughingly ridiculous of current notions.

If nuclear superpowers were to reduce their nuclear arsenals to zero --all that any idiot, draconian Orwellian dictatorship would have to do is possess a mere handful of devices and they would become the preeminent superpower .

What kind of utterly stupid and ridiculously monumental waste of time would be "efforts" by this administration to nudge the real world, in the 4 yrs. Obama has left , to get along to zero nuclear weapons , presumably unilateral??

Geez Louise. For crying out loud.????
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 21, 2013 - 10:35pm PT
If the IPCC goes full bore ahead with the summary report they have circulated they may well lose another 3-4 nations. That would be a good thing since they will in effect self marginalize themselves. Perhaps then, the true belivers amongst them can be institutionalized in a central loony bin where they can celebrate their then 100% consensus far from the public eye and their mental condition soothed from never again being allowed outside to hear the cries of deny.

Tooth- your spot on with your divide and conquer. Do you think all the civil strife is intentional and directed?

Ward Trotter is also spot on with his analysis of the stupid utopianism behind such slogans as reduction of our nuclear forces to zero. There is no surer road to annihlation than this- not in the real world anyway.

Werner- you have to take old Bruce and his psycho babble b.s. attacks with a hefty grain of salt. Hell, occaisionally he is even funny.

You forgot Trotter Ed. And what are your diplomatic credentials? Hell, i have to live amongst the Russians and compete in the building biz when they don't have to make a profit, just launder.
AndyMan

Sport climber
CA
Aug 21, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
Come on all you scammers and alarmists out there. It can't be so hard can it, for true believers ? We all know it's been warming since the Little Ice Age. Where is the EVIDENCE that any of it is caused by man ?

Admit it chaps. There is NOTHING to support the scam.

I didn't see anyone with the guts to claim which one of these graphs below shows man caused warming either. What happened to boldness ? Are you all a bunch of pussies ?

Credit: AndyMan
dirtbag

climber
Aug 21, 2013 - 11:34pm PT
Come on all you scammers and alarmists out there. It can't be so hard can it, for true believers ? We all know it's been warming since the Little Ice Age. Where is the EVIDENCE that any of it is caused by man ?


Hi Chief.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 21, 2013 - 11:36pm PT
I'll answer that one for Andy, if you don't mind. It was a bristlecone pine from high in the little Ural's section of the High Sierra.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 21, 2013 - 11:42pm PT


http://www.newscientist.com/article/dn11639-climate-myths-the-cooling-after-1940-shows-co2-does-not-cause-warming.html#.UhWI4VPc3sJ

http://www.skepticalscience.com/pre-1940-warming-causes-and-logic.html

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 21, 2013 - 11:51pm PT
Hey Ed, i have some questions for you. When was the last time the Earth has seen this amount of Polar sea ice for this time of year? When was the last time that U.S. cold temp records outnumbered hot records by two to one? When was the last time sea surface levels showed a decline year over year? When was the last time a solar cycle was as weak as the current one? When will their be a consensus that we are in a global cooling trend ?
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