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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 24, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
What NONE of the "models" take into account, is the OBVIOUS. The obvious improvements to energy use like fracturing. Nor do or CAN they take into considerations those improvements that WILL be made in the future. Much like the "mobile" phone that became the cell phone that became the miniature hand held computer that replaced what USED to be a room full of LARGE machinery of all manner.
Randisi

Social climber
Dalian, Liaoning
May 24, 2013 - 12:03pm PT
Oh yes, Ron too.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 24, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
we ARE the "A" Team. And "we love it when a plan comes together"!
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 24, 2013 - 12:04pm PT
I'm almost convinced that Rick and the Chief are part of a Turing test.


Actually, in my case, it is called thinking and playing outside of the GCC sandbox. But then to do so means one can not be a sheep and play with all the other kids in the sand box according to the rules. In order to be part of the tribe, one must conform to the Tribal Leaders doctrines. Just like any other religion. Not me nor those that I choose to play with. They too see all this GCC as just another modern day religious scam/fad that will eventually fade away.
FRUMY

Trad climber
SHERMAN OAKS,CA
May 24, 2013 - 12:07pm PT
The "a" team -- one pathetic "a" team.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 24, 2013 - 12:08pm PT
Thank you for your well reasoned reply explaining you and your loved ones living arrangements. You must forgive me for not anticipating such in constructing my analogies. However, even a six year old could probably get my drift.

But I understand. Questions of motivation and morality are for some people VERBOTTEN!!

Ja?

Unfortunately, in any hierarchy of leadership, it is an imperative. Even the Nazi's had thier morality... whats yours?
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 24, 2013 - 12:11pm PT
The "a" team -- one pathetic "a" team.]/i]

Modern day science philosophy. If one does not agree with the supposed consensus, ban them to Siberia. Got it.

KAY

Show me where in science & evolution, the concept of "morality" is involved.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 24, 2013 - 12:13pm PT
Chief,,Normal response in light of over whelming evidence that they just drank the coolaid.. Id be upset if i were them too.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 24, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
Here let me hold your hand and lead you.....

When you were in the Navy, what was the prevailing moral philosophy?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 24, 2013 - 12:19pm PT
KAY

Show me where in science & evolution, the concept of "morality" is involved.


PUD KNOCKER


Morality is involved as soon as more than one person is involved.




















































Unless you're a psychopath?
Lennox

climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
May 24, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Ha, ha, ha--rotflmao!

thechief, you once again prove that what are to you facts, are actually only your guess/opinion about sh#t you know nothing about.

You attributed to Ed something that I said, and then proceeded to scold and lecture him about alcoholism.

Until climate change actually slaps you in the face and has serious consequences for you personally, and/or you are able to actually have a moment of clarity where you look at this issue honestly it will remain impossible for anyone to convince you of AGW--you have to want to learn and change.



Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 24, 2013 - 12:28pm PT
Look Ricky - May I call you Ricky? The Chief is a bit heavy..... I'm just doing you a favor. When a leader drops the ball in morality or cannot explain their morality to start with, even the lunk heads will start to put 2 and 2 together.

Look what happened to Rob Ford:


raymond phule

climber
May 24, 2013 - 12:36pm PT

How convenient that protocol is based on a time frame that allows for such.
Expand that time frame, oh, 1 million years. Then what do you have. A completely different ball game for sure.

So we have the chief making a claim about the last 15 years, Ed explains why his claim is wrong and the chief say that we should look at 1 million years instead??????????

Moving the goal posts just a little maybe?

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 24, 2013 - 12:43pm PT
just an observation, since little or no replies to facts presented had been had, it seems a tactic here is to go after the messenger rather than the message. Dont supposed this has changed since time recorded.

Weve shown you about contruction of ocean corals, AND the MAIN facotrs involving coral growth, which is the SAME factor for growing ice in the antarctic currently... W-I-N-D..


Weve shown you constant flat lines of temps for well over a decade.

Weve shown you the THRIVING populations of wildlife ONCE CONSIDERED harbingers of global warming.


Weve shown you the graphs of reality vs theoretical..

Even FRACTURING has made the list of things proven to be quite the opposite of doomsday warmers.


Weve shown you the papers, peer reviewed, and the 32,000 scientists in agreement (consensus).


Weve shown you where studies such as IN THE OCEAN DEPTHS as an angle of GW is just a ploy that CANT be proven in those ocean depths. Wanna talk about GUESSING? But it DOES give some major wiggle room to creating a theory doesnt it?



Then theres that dem politician who was just two days ago yammering on about GW increasing tornadoes when in reality tornado occurrence has gone down. What desperation to jump on a tragedy such as Oklahoma and try ans spin POLITICAL support of their 'theories".


As ive said before,, the GW submarine has a screen door.. burble burble gurgle....
raymond phule

climber
May 24, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
This is strange. I thought that Ed, Chiloe, Base and many more where the people that discussed a lot of science in this thread and that you, rick and the chief mostly run away or change the subject when the science is discussed.

So lets discuss the science.
raymond phule

climber
May 24, 2013 - 12:59pm PT
So what where your point when you showed the figure with the ice data? The figure clearly show that the ice sheet is shrinking. The rate of the shrinking also seems to accelerate when according to you the global warming have ended.
new world order2

climber
May 24, 2013 - 01:02pm PT
Obama signs 'Monsanto Protection Act' written by Monsanto-sponsored senator.

http://rt.com/usa/monsanto-bill-blunt-agriculture-006/


March Against Monsanto May 25, 2013

http://occupy-monsanto.com/march-against-monsanto-may-25-2013/
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 24, 2013 - 01:34pm PT
When a leader drops the ball in morality or cannot explain their morality to start

Once again "Brucee", please show me/us where "morality" plays any part in science or evolution. You include morality into this issue, it instantly makes it a religion.

Nature/Evolution knows nothing about morality. Only the human ego and mind. You make this solely a human issue, it no longer pertains in the class of evolution nor science. Just plain human greed. No different than that of Big Oil and all them capitalistic entities you so dearly disdain. Doing so also endorses my stance that you are using science to promote your eco Utopianism agenda. Nothing more.

McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 24, 2013 - 02:21pm PT
Chief, you mentioned over-population and resources in an earlier post. You are on the right track. The more people we keep adding the more pressure there is to get them oil FAST. Rex Tillerson of Exxon likes to get people of the 3rd world hooked on oil before they even think of things like solar energy, which can be very cost effective and clean. Rex thinks denying people oil is a sin but he'll deny them solar technology any day of the week.

From what I have read of him, he would love for everyone in the 3rd world to have a gasoline generator rather than solar collectors, or any other alternative. He's the candyman. I suppose they could still have some electric motorcycles too! I hear the Zero aint too bad. I know....laugh at the Zero.....Make My Day! :>) At least they're still in business - that says something.
http://www.zeromotorcycles.com/2013/

I recommend the Stealthfighter for you.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 24, 2013 - 03:46pm PT
he would love for everyone in the 3rd world to have a gasoline generator rather than solar collectors

MACNAVY

I had to take a loan out to get solar. Big time big bucks. How in the world do you think that a family of six living on less than $1.00 a day, is going to afford solar. That there is just another example of the insanity and total unrealistic thinking you all have.

Please do share how you plan on making such alternative fuels affordable for 3rd world countries. When the majority of Americans can't afford to implement them.
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