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The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
Craig.^^^^^^^^ You really are an idiot. Or. You have been sampling far too much of them carbon monoxide fumes you are tagging daily down there in the South Coast Air Basin.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
May 28, 2013 - 02:03pm PT
Science-aware posters upthread have mentioned that much of the recent warming has gone into the deep ocean, where heat content is massive compared with the atmosphere. NOAA just updated their time series (based primarily on ARGO floats) with the latest quarterly data, Jan-Mar 2013. The index takes quite a jump this year, actually the 2nd-largest in their quarterly series. More significantly it continues the unmistakable rising trend.



Note that the graph's y axis is not absolute heat content but anomaly, or deviation from the 1955-2006 (reference period) mean.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 28, 2013 - 02:17pm PT
Yes Ed- it is a feeble signal compared to natural variability, now you are coming along. As far as most of the rest of your statement; it's utter b.s., what you have been conditioned to think. Believe it or not, intelligence is not the sole province of the elite, people in the normal to high range of learning ability, can and do look at the readily available evidence and come to their own conclusions. I have great hope for you too, to slowly reexamine all the available evidence present and yet to emerge and come up with your own independent conclusion.

Dr F how can anyone take you seriously with your rigid ideology and ridulous attack dog style?
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 02:42pm PT
Dr F how can anyone take you seriously with your rigid ideology and ridulous attack dog style?

RICK. Attack dog? Nope. You ever hear a rabbit squeal just before it dies. More akin to DrF's posts. He is in the Talon's of doom. Squealing.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 28, 2013 - 02:45pm PT
in fact, I think you would be surprised if he ever told the truth of who he voted for

chief said:
Obama, twice.

as I suspected, thank you

see Dr F?

and NO, there were likely NONE "right wingers" that voted for the President

by definition, but they did vote to put Caribou Barbie one heartbeat of John McSame away from being Commander in Chief of the US Armed Forces

thank you chief

and now, off to the torture chamber known as the Fitness Center......
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 02:54pm PT
Chiloe, thanks for keeping some of us informed.

Unfortunately I think the morans have won when a discussion of science degrades into a discussion of political candidates. The morans don't know the difference and those who do are apparently so flabbergasted by their ignorance that they indulge the idiocracy.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 28, 2013 - 03:34pm PT
FACTS:

Ron is at least part Choctaw native american. Likes to climb. Seems to love nature and wildlife. Was friends with Dano and has some comments on other threads that make me think he would be cool at the campfire (pretty much guaranteed to be cool IMO). This thread and the Repugs thread are really my only problem with his viewpoint. I bet he does things to save our environment without even thinking. Probably has a garden and probably recycles.

Chief has solar power, rides bikes and hikes to places (truth be told probably more than he drives). I bet he recycles and has a garden. He did serve our country. Risks his life to rescue people. Being a military man he definitely has a drinking problem (he admitted he is an alcoholic--SO AM I by the way). Raised a family well enough for them to be successful. He is also married---most women won't put up for a total ahole forever (IMO). I don't know anybody who climbs hard, was in the military, and parties I didn't have a good time with in JT.

My point being that we all have gotten too worked up about this and most likely we would have more respect for opposing viewpoints in person. Like the Chief I am a man of action--DO something don't talk about it--I think they are doing something to combat climate change but not for that reason...I don't care what your reason is if you only bike for you--great but it still is one less car on the road. Have a garden to save money or just enjoy it--great! Have solar--for any reason GREAT!!!

I am probably the biggest A$$hole I know when I feel a reason to be one...this thread has made me be one...and I regret it after reading Anastasia's thread.

Rick--I just don't like people who were born on third base and think they hit a triple---I'd key your Jaguar or whatever you drive in hidden valley :)
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 28, 2013 - 03:42pm PT
Where Chiloe, surface, 700 meters-the limit to their depth, worldwide, regional-where?
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 28, 2013 - 03:49pm PT
endless loop of Lebification on display
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 03:50pm PT
Rick, you can read... can't you?

Where Chiloe, surface, 700 meters-the limit to their depth, worldwide, regional-where?

The title says "0-2000m Global..." I'm pretty sure that answers all of your above questions.




FWIW, I don't doubt some of those guys are good people, but their willful ignorance and adamantly uninformed position on the subject deserves all the ridicule in the world.
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
May 28, 2013 - 03:56pm PT
Rick, basic info and many related graphs are at the link I gave above. Here it is again:
http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/OC5/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/

More detail (pdf) here:
http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/woa/PUBLICATIONS/grlheat12.pdf

Further explanation (pdf of PowerPoint) here:
http://data.nodc.noaa.gov/woa/DATA_ANALYSIS/3M_HEAT_CONTENT/PDF/heat_content_differences.pdf
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:00pm PT
but their willful ignorance and adamantly uninformed position on the subject deserves all the ridicule in the world.
Ego at it's best man of science. Exactly why I totally disdain humanoids as yourself. Pompous brat. At best.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:02pm PT
If ignorance is bliss, why does Chaff always seem so upset?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 28, 2013 - 04:21pm PT
if the military is a right wing cause, how come they protect leftys too? Your logic,, doc,, is "askew"..
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 28, 2013 - 04:32pm PT
doc,, JUST in the fact they are here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
Craig (DRF)

WTF are you doing posting on ST during working hours? Are you not a County Paid Employee? Just another example of the OC's tax payers money well spent. NOT! Just another G-Man wasting the peoples money.
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:38pm PT
JUST in the fact science is here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:40pm PT
JUST in the fact science is here, protects you daily, dont you dare believe otherwise.

From what?
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 04:45pm PT
polio
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 04:57pm PT
I work for a Private Environmental Consulting firm, Corporations hire us to measure their industrial emissions to demonstrate that they are in Compliance with the Districts Pollution Limits.

OH-SHet! Even worse than a G-Man. Bought off Big Money Corporations analyst.

Polio

You still don't get it WesCrispi. Still do not get it.
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