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mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 12:14am PT
This is an argument over ideology.

No, it is idiots arguing against solid science they know nothing about because they are slaves to their ideology. Huge difference.

Funny how the only other person who agrees with that statement is Chaff.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 12:18am PT
You jackass scientists are the ones who first made this horrible mess to begin with.

You were told for thousands of years not to do certain things to nature.

But ya never listened and now the same type of jackasses with rubber stamps that read PHd on them stamp each other on their foreheads "Scientist".

These same lab coat jackasses that fuked everything up to begin with now say we're all wrong because we guessed wrong.

They never listen to anything but their own rubber stamped selves.


BINGO #2


WETCRISP. You are aware that Spartans were no taller than 5'5" or so and the Mongols, no taller than 5'. Cochise and his Chiricahua brothers. A tad bit over 5' as well. They were all beyond cool. Most of their enemies were taller then they were. Their enemies all got their asses royally killed. Very swiftly and fast. They were the mightiest humans to have ever walked this planet. 5'4".
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 12:23am PT
Don't believe either would ever take the bullet for me or any of you. Trust? Neither.

By that standard you obviously can't even trust your own kids or wife. But that is not the criteria and you know it. You already demonstrate that you trust the word and opinion of select scientists. You chose to trust some science, and not others. So don't give me this ridiculous "I stand alone against the world" crap.

Anyway you gay little queer:

What would it take for you to say "Well I'll be damned - turns out you guys were right all along!"



mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 12:23am PT
WB, you know damn well it was the engineers who fuked everything up. Scientists learn, engineers do.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 12:26am PT
By that standard you obviously can't even trust your own kids or wife. You of course are speaking for yourself. I can see that not happening in your family. Not mine. Fact.

Mr.Kay. Where did DRF run off to. Fetal pos. Got it.


WB, you know damn well it was the engineers who fuked everything up. Scientists learn, engineers do.

Really? This is a product of ED predecessors work.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 12:27am PT
chickenshit
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 12:31am PT
You see what I mean Bluey?

Queer as a three dollar bill
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 12:31am PT
^^^^^^^^^ Is that your primary meal? Must be. Your demeanor always changes this time of the evening. An hour or two after dinner. Lay off that chickenshit Mr. Kay. And where is DRF?? Fetal positioning.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 12:32am PT
run away little girl

The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 12:35am PT
Here is what "Scientist" developed to assist mankind.


Chemical Agents

Tear agents
Main article: Lachrymatory agent

These sensory irritants produce immediate pain to the eyes and irritate mucous membranes (aka lachrymatory agent or lachrymator).

a-Chlorotoluene
Benzyl bromide
Bromoacetone (BA)
Bromobenzylcyanide (CA)
Bromomethyl ethyl ketone
Capsaicin (OC)
Chloracetophenone (MACE; CN)
Chloromethyl chloroformate
Dibenzoxazepine (CR)
Ethyl iodoacetate
Ortho-chlorobenzylidene malononitrile (Super tear gas; CS)
Trichloromethyl chloroformate
Xylyl bromide

Vomiting agents

These sensory irritants are also termed sternators or nose irritants. They irritate the mucous membranes to produce congestion, coughing, sneezing, and eventually nausea.

Adamsite (DM)
Diphenylchloroarsine (DA)
Diphenylcyanoarsine (DC)

Malodorants
Main article: Malodorant

These are compounds with a very strong and unpleasant smell, which produce powerfully aversive effects without the toxic effects of tear agents or vomiting agents. Some military forces such as those of Israel and the USA have developed malodorant weapons in the belief that they fall outside the accepted definition of riot control agents, and therefore represent a loophole in the Chemical Weapons Convention.

Skunk (weapon)

Incapacitating agents

These are substances that produce debilitating effects with limited probability of permanent injury or loss of life. The casualty effects typically last over 24 hours, and though medical evacuation and isolation is recommended, it is not required for complete recovery. These, together with harassing agents, are sometimes called nonlethal agents. There may be as high as 5% fatalities with the use of these agents.
Psychological agents

These are substances that produce casualty effects though mental disturbances such as delerium or hallucination.

3-Quinuclidinyl benzilate (BZ)
Phencyclidine (SN)
Lysergic acid diethylamide (K)

Other incapacitating agents

These substances have also been investigated as incapacitants, though they operate more through interactions outside the central nervous system.

KOLOKOL-1 (tranquilizer)

Lethal agents

These substances are for producing chemical casualties without regard to long-term consequences or loss of life. They cause injuries that require medical treatment.
Blister agents
Main article: Blister agent

A blister agent is a chemical compound that irritates and causes injury to the skin. These substances also attack the eyes, or any other tissue they contact.
Vesicants

The vesicants are substances that produce large fluid-filled blisters on the skin.
Nitrogen mustards
Main article: Nitrogen mustard

Bis(2-chloroethyl)ethylamine (HN1)
Bis(2-chloroethyl)methylamine (HN2)
Tris(2-chloroethyl)amine (HN3)

Sulfur mustards
Main article: Sulfur mustard

1,2-Bis(2-chloroethylthio) ethane (Sesquimustard; Q)
1,3-Bis(2-chloroethylthio)-n-propane
1,4-Bis(2-chloroethylthio)-n-butane
1,5-Bis(2-chloroethylthio)-n-pentane
2-Chloroethylchloromethylsulfide
Bis(2-chloroethyl) sulfide (Mustard gas; HD)
Bis(2-chloroethylthio) methane
Bis(2-chloroethylthiomethyl) ether
Bis(2-chloroethylthioethyl) ether (O Mustard; T)

Arsenicals

Ethyldichloroarsine (ED)
Methyldichloroarsine (MD)
Phenyldichloroarsine (PD)
2-Chlorovinyldichloroarsine (Lewisite; L)

Urticants

The urticants are substances that produce a painful wheal on the skin. These are sometimes termed skin necrotizers and are known as the most painful substances produced.

Phosgene oxime (CX)

Blood agents
Main article: Blood agent

These substances are metabolic poisons that interfere with the life-sustaining processes of the blood.

Cyanogen chloride (CK)
Hydrogen cyanide (AC)
Arsine (SA)

Choking agents
Main article: Pulmonary agent

These substances are sometime referred to as pulmonary agent or lung irritants and cause injury to the lung-blood barrier resulting in Asphyxia.

Chlorine (CL)
Chloropicrin (PS)
Diphosgene (DP)
Phosgene (CG)

Nerve agents
Main article: Nerve agent

Nerve agents are substances that disrupt the chemical communications through the nervous system. The disruption is caused by blocking the acetylcholinesterase, an enzyme that normally destroys and stops the activity of acetylcholine, a neurotransmitter. Poisoning by a nerve agent leads to an accumulation of acetylcholine at the nerve axon, producing a perpetual excited state (e.g., muscle contraction). The eventual exhaustion of muscles leads to respiratory failure and death.
G series

These are low volatility nerve agents that are typically used for a nonpersistent to semipersistent effect.

Tabun (GA)
Sarin (GB)
Soman (GD)
Cyclosarin (GF)

GV series

These agents have a volatility between the V and G agents and are typically used for a semi-persistent to persistent effect.

Novichok agents
GV (nerve agent)

V series

These agents have low volatility and are typically used for a persistent effect or liquid contact hazard.

VE
VG
VM
VX
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_chemical_warfare_agents


And all these goodies that have assisted the evolutionary process speed up a tad bit. Extinction that is. Yup. All science based goodies.

Individual insecticides
Organochlorides
See also: Category: Organochloride insecticides

Aldrin
Chlordane
Chlordecone
DDT
Dieldrin
Endosulfan
Endrin
Heptachlor
Hexachlorobenzene
Lindane (gamma-hexachlorocyclohexane)
Methoxychlor
Mirex
Pentachlorophenol
TDE

Organophosphates
See also: Category:Organophosphate insecticides

Acephate
Azinphos-methyl
Bensulide
Chlorethoxyfos
Chlorpyrifos
Chlorpyriphos-methyl
Diazinon
Dichlorvos (DDVP)
Dicrotophos
Dimethoate
Disulfoton
Ethoprop
Fenamiphos
Fenitrothion
Fenthion
Fosthiazate
Malathion
Methamidophos
Methidathion
Mevinphos
Monocrotophos
Naled
Omethoate
Oxydemeton-methyl
Parathion
Parathion-methyl
Phorate
Phosalone
Phosmet
Phostebupirim
Phoxim
Pirimiphos-methyl
Profenofos
Terbufos
Tetrachlorvinphos
Tribufos
Trichlorfon

Carbamates

Aldicarb
Bendiocarb
Carbofuran
Carbaryl
Dioxacarb
Fenobucarb
Fenoxycarb
Isoprocarb
Methomyl
2-(1-Methylpropyl)phenyl methylcarbamate


Pyrethroids

Allethrin
Bifenthrin
Cyhalothrin, Lambda-cyhalothrin
Cypermethrin
Cyfluthrin
Deltamethrin
Etofenprox
Fenvalerate
Permethrin
Phenothrin
Prallethrin
Resmethrin
Tetramethrin
Tralomethrin
Transfluthrin

Neonicotinoids

Acetamiprid
Clothianidin
Imidacloprid
Nitenpyram
Nithiazine
Thiacloprid
Thiamethoxam

Ryanoids

Rynaxypyr

Insect growth regulators

Benzoylureas
Diflubenzuron
Flufenoxuron
Methoprene
Hydroprene
Tebufenozide

Plant derived

Anabasine
Anethole (mosquito larvae)[19]
Annonin
Asimina (pawpaw tree seeds) for lice
Azadirachtin
Caffeine
Carapa
Cinnamaldehyde (very effective for killing mosquito larvae)[20]
Cinnamon leaf oil (very effective for killing mosquito larvae)[19]
Cinnamyl acetate (kills mosquito larvae)[19]
Citral
Deguelin
Derris
Derris (rotenone)
Desmodium caudatum (leaves and roots)
Eugenol (mosquito larvae)[19]
Linalool
Myristicin
Neem (Azadirachtin)
Nicotiana rustica (nicotine)
Peganum harmala, seeds (smoke from), root
Oregano oil kills beetles Rhizopertha dominica[21] (bug found in stored cereal)
Polyketide
Pyrethrum
Quassia (South American plant genus)
Ryanodine
Tetranortriterpenoid
Thymol (controls varroa mites in bee colonies)[22]

Biologicals

Bacillus sphaericus
Bacillus thuringiensis
Bacillus thuringiensis aizawi
Bacillus thuringiensis israelensis
Bacillus thuringiensis kurstaki
Bacillus thuringiensis tenebrionis
Nuclear Polyhedrosis virus
Granulovirus
Spinosyn A
Spinosyn D

Other

Diatomaceous earth
Borate
Borax
Boric Acid
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Insecticide


Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 12:38am PT
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 12:47am PT
Soon, science will have accomplished the ultimate fuk up. They will selectively take the DNA of those blue eyed blond humans and mutate them to populate this planet with clones that they deem worthy of proliferating it. Clones. Oh yeah. Genetically manufactured Human Beings. Born with a Ph.D in their asses. Got to love them scientist and their modern day work.


Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 12:50am PT
So you see here we have it. The creme de la creme of the denial intelligensia in all its raging glory.

La Chuff..... Un plugged
mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 28, 2013 - 12:53am PT
I always thought it was a myth that people would be that willfully ignorant and wallow in their own stupidity.

Maybe now jhedge will realize why we all need guns... lots and lots of guns.

Here is what "Scientist" developed to assist mankind.

you should look at your rod, reel, climbing gear, truck, etc for other examples.
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
May 28, 2013 - 12:56am PT
I don't understand what leads people to the military. It is devoted to killing people.

The exception is draftees who didn't sign back up or go career.

My suggestion is that you deniers go get a GED.

I'm pissed, so I'm out. When The Chief pops up, I feel like I have donated blood.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 28, 2013 - 12:57am PT
Mr. Kay.

It is obvious when we "denialist" start roughing up your GCC weakass feathers. You begin part B of this bullshet GCC religion tactic. Demonizing those here and out there that call you all on your GCC science BS.



I'm pissed, so I'm out. When The Chief pops up, I feel like I have donated blood.

There is #2 Mr Kay. Off into the fetal pos. Now what was that about running, off.



you should look at your rod, reel, climbing gear, truck, etc for other examples.

I do. Perfect example of them bust ass engineers you disdain and blame for all your scientific fk ups. My Pop was an engineer for 63 of his 86 years on this planet.
QITNL

climber
May 28, 2013 - 01:02am PT
Everyone on each side of the argument is using science to promote their case. Each and every keystroke - even a spelling mistake - is brought to the audience via computer science and a host of other disciplines.

To be intellectually honest, the anti-scientist should get off the Internet. Adopt the lifestyle of the Amish. Or at least admit "these are the sciences I like" and "these are the sciences I dismiss."

When I hike in the mountains, I'm carrying 30-odd pounds of science. I'm not carrying John Muir's kit. I don't have a problem admitting it. And when I come across guys mapping the Lyell Glacier, it's pretty neat.

You don't have to talk to them if you want. But someone else might want to listen, so let them have their space. I like reading Ed's stuff, BASE 104's stuff. Minerals has taught me a lot. I hang out with a lot of kids and we love learning about science, all sorts of it.

Have a good night.

-Joe
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 28, 2013 - 01:05am PT
we are like the frog in the pot of water that is gradually heating up before we know it we will be cooked...

Extinction events have happened many times in the earth's history but none have been caused by the dominant species...

I won't be still living when it occurs but I care about the future generations...

I haven't heard one person who knows and understands the climate is changing say that they want people on a fixed income to pay a carbon tax...

I don't get what is so bad about protecting our environment, conservation is cool I think...

If those who believe climate change is caused by humans are wrong nothing happens...if those who don't believe humans cause climate change are wrong we are looking at an extinction event in the future...
BASE104

Social climber
An Oil Field
May 28, 2013 - 01:06am PT
Got to love them scientist and their modern day work.

This is not true, and is along the lines of that New World Order guy.

This is an attack on scientists rather than science. That makes it a blazing Ad Hominem attack, and the Ad Hominem attack is the home of the mentally incompetent.

Really. Is this all about you not going to college, Chief? I saw you go off on that one big time.

Is this jealousy that makes you hate anyone who is intelligent?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 28, 2013 - 01:07am PT
Demonizing those here....


Oh get a grip Chuff! Demonizing? I'm not sure if demonizing and abject ridicule are even harmonious . I'm mocking you. Its all good fun. No malice intended at all.




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