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McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
Any reasonable people amongst you CAGW latter day Nature Denialists, or are you all a bunch of deadenders

I'm a dead-ender.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 10:15pm PT
They are down to arguing over "knotts" and such.. kinda like being out of ammo as the bear is charging,, and throwing rocks- as its aallll ya got left.. cough cough..;-)


besides,, doc f even tacitly conceded and congratulated us, therefore,, it obviously "is".
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 10:17pm PT
For Dick,I have been more than reasonable ,from the start.Who was it that asked personal questions,tried to interject complete falsehoods,and even bragg as to their position here.

You start mocking men like ED,Base,even lowly me about science,you are going to have to face someone like myself.


And you know what ,i am going through a divorce right now,losing our house,and i have no family left.

I AM A DEAD ENDER.but i give a shyt
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 10:19pm PT
my relatives scalped yur relatives once upon a time.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 10:23pm PT
Good Ron ,i can respect that.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 10:25pm PT
of course my one relatives also scalped some of my other relatives. And then they fought in wars against each other as well.. Odd clan eh?



edit: Wilbeer,, SORRY for that situation that SUCKS!!!!!!!!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 10:28pm PT


Recognizing denial



In politicized instances of denial such as climate change denial, HIV/AIDS denial, or Holocaust denial, research is necessary to establish the "truth". It is only on that basis that one can confirm the presence of denial or denialism. That research can only plausibly be carried out by experts. Those wishing to expose denialism must therefore refer to the opinions of experts. Denialism often involves questioning the expertise of self-declared experts, considering their possible bias, or considering the possible inherent bias of the system in which they work. For example one may question the objectivity of the peer-review system according to which academic research is accepted for publication in leading academic journals.


Even in this case, it is possible to recognize denial by an objective criterion based on Freud's original theory. Denial is associated with the defence mechanism of psychological repression of emotion. These emotions are released when the denial is identified or challenged. The emotion is then repressed again (it seems to disappear) and the topic is not discussed unless there is another challenge. In this way, the topic becomes taboo. This is an unusual behavioral pattern: normally, when a question is so important that people get emotional about it, those same people continue to discuss it until it is resolved or there is some progress toward a solution. The emotion motivates the search for a solution.
wiki
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
its good yur looking that up and posting it here Norton.. After Ricks latest info shared the duck is done in the oven.. The pearl is in the "river">

Shoot the moon!
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 10:45pm PT
its good yur looking that up and posting it here Norton

thanks, Ron!

it was aimed squarely at YOU, Ron

for you are the ultimate DENIER of facts, truth, logic, and reason

glad you see why I posted that

have a wonderful evening Ron
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 22, 2013 - 10:57pm PT
Yes Bruce it's springtime in wasillastan for sarah and all the damn russians. Norton, i'm glad you recognize your, and the CAGW crowds, denial and are studying its psychology. It's the first step in the retrieval of yourselves from that cult of doom you guys were mired in.

And Wilbeer, if you are truly reasonable read those back to back statements from prophet Trenbreth that i posted an hour or so ago, then read Nortons denial post and you will be on your way to recovery. We'll be here on the other side to welcome your recovery. Anything you need, little brother, on the difficult road to reality-just ask.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 22, 2013 - 11:10pm PT
Rick - I thought it was our psychology? Isn't that why we're called deniers? I've been boning up on our position and strengths, of which among the greatest is loyalty. That is loyalty to ideology not loyalty to people. Thats the problem with that lick spittle Blah blah. Just not enough backbone in the face of adversity. No bloody conviction. Sure, he can sing a good song but anyone can detect that detestable hesitation and uncertainty. Not like The Chief for instance.

Anyway, this is now my bible. I read it once before bed and again over my cherrios.


Authoritarian personality

This article describes the psychological trait of authoritarianism. For the form of government that bears the same name, see Authoritarianism.

Authoritarian personality is a state of mind or attitude characterised by one's belief in absolute obedience or submission to one's own authority, as well as the administration of that belief through the oppression of one's subordinates. It usually applies to individuals who are known or viewed as having an authoritative, strict, or oppressive personality towards subordinates.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 22, 2013 - 11:24pm PT
Bruce, good that your studying up on authoritarianism because you'll need to know how to be a lap dog servant under the junta's thumb if your little imagined utopia ever is born. Conviction is something they pronounce on you in the comrades kangaroo court and different from what you call conviction but is actually an absolute certainty of reality that rationalists see.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 22, 2013 - 11:27pm PT
Er, uh.... sure. I think I follow you.

This Utopia you speak of - Is that the one Glenn Beck is building for us?
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 22, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
Tons of fossil fuel C02 will begin to be blasted into the atmosphere above the Isle of Mann this Saturday for an entire week. Oh yeah. Tons. And it will definitely be swirled up with the speeds of those rigs. 170-190mph through the towns and country side. My My. The Greatest Race of all time. Winning is not as important as just finishing the deal, alive. Oh all that C02.




mechrist

Gym climber
South of Heaven
May 22, 2013 - 11:43pm PT
Clearly not compensating.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 22, 2013 - 11:44pm PT
All is relatively quiet on the front Chief. The helm is yours.

Bruce-bone up on the wasillastan dialect.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 22, 2013 - 11:47pm PT
you mean speaking in tongues?


The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 22, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
I know that Norton will appreciate my last post. Got to win em over one at a time.

Edit.

I can guarantee you that the percentage of GCC believers in the stands, on the stones walls, paddocks and amongst the riders at the Isle of Mann TT is... ZERO.

Thank God, Buddha, Mohamed, Jesus etc etc etc.
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 11:57pm PT
I watched the whole thing Chief! Nice save by that one dude. Hard to imagine going that fast in a car even. Most I ever did was 115-120 when I had my 650 V-Strom.
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
May 23, 2013 - 12:05am PT
Manipulators can have various possible motivations, including:
* the need to advance their own purposes and personal gain at virtually any cost to others
* a strong need to attain feelings of power and superiority in relationships with others
* a want and need to feel in control (aka. control freak)
* a desire to gain a feeling of power over others in order to raise their perception of self-esteem

Psychological manipulation
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