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crunch

Social climber
CO
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:24pm PT
Ron, carbon dioxide is a greenhouse gas. It warms the lower atmosphere, where we live, by absorbing infrared heat radiated from the earth. That's basic high school physics.

What happens 50 miles up in the thermosphere is completely different. Carbon dioxide can be a cooling gas up there because the air 50 miles up is really thin.

Here, as explained in one of your own favorite websites:

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2013/03/28/a-misinterpreted-claim-about-a-nasa-press-release-co2-solar-flares-and-the-thermosphere-is-making-the-rounds/

"READ" !!!!! //.... and weep.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:31pm PT
Unlike YOU dingus, i dont post then delete in some kiddie like games. Unlike YOU dingus i dont follow folks around here interjecting insults.

And windmills and owls have MUCH to do with this whole scam.. But i could be saying global WARMING will kill us all in the next fiddy years and youd be doing much the same.




raymond phule

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:37pm PT

I guess you MISSED that NASA article huh? Or the 1000 others weve posted?
NASA article? I remember that you posted a link to blog post that totaly misinterpreted a press release from NASA. You and your friends have after that continued to draw incorrect conclusions from the press release while ignoring all other comments.

That is not the same as discussing a paper.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:37pm PT
No one knows?

Precisely and unequivocally the "truth".

That has got to be THE biggest cop out EVER.

No one knows if you can get to India by sailing west.

No one knows if there is a vaccine for polio.

No one knows if we can make it to the moon.

No one knows what makes up matter.



The only thing anyone KNOWS unequivocally is that pussies with that kind of attitude are a waste of human potential.
raymond phule

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:39pm PT

What YOUR side does here Ray, if you LOOK, is to denigrate the Messengers, not the messages. There has to be four hundred replys in here attacking the character of the Skeptical side. On and ON actually.


But i will say ive leanred MUCH from debating this topic!

Please, read Ed, Chiloes and several other peoples posts.

What have you learned? That you are good at ignoring views that you disagree with?
new world order2

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
Anyone?

I have a serious (perhaps stupid) question, please.

Is the CO2 humans exhale, harmful to the environment?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 28, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
Yes NWO,, and soon there will be a PERSONAL CO2 Tax.. I see it now..

There will also be FART/methane taxes levied against any gaseous foods. The figures will be something like: per every ounce of burrito, 1.50 cents shall be added to the cost. Cabbage will be far more expensive.

Unless of course you get the FartMaster 5000 by Ronco. A smallish device that when planted firmly in the sphincter controls and screens said emissions. We here at Ronco LTd are working feverishly on design as we speak! Got CORK?
raymond phule

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:01pm PT
Why do you post that? Do you understand what he say?
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:05pm PT
If i breath into paper bags then close them,, can i sell my carbon credits on the open market? I mean,, i want IN on this shyt! lol!
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:07pm PT
Credit: monolith
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:08pm PT
Credit: Ron Anderson
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:09pm PT
That graph includes ocean temps, idiot.

That article was not talking about ocean temps.

Credit: monolith
raymond phule

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:11pm PT

Oh you bet I understand. The rising temps have stalled.

I was more interested in if you understood what he said after that.

After some googling i found out that it is definitely not clear that he said those things at all.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:23pm PT
NWO2, even though you are a worthless troll....

http://www.skepticalscience.com/breathing-co2-carbon-dioxide.htm


Same dipshits posting the same misinterpretations and misinformation... willful ignorance at its worst... what a sad bunch of fukheads.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:26pm PT
so what yur sayin Wes is that if we all BREATH a little harder we can negate the CO2 emitted by humans? By exhaling into a bag and sealing it we have negated OUR CO2 output thus aiding the over-all out put by man.. right?
raymond phule

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:35pm PT

Idiot?

That graph is totally inaccurate. A lie. According to the head of the IPCC. Regardles if it includes "ocean temps" or not.

Revise the land temps to correlate with Rajendra Pachauri acknowledgement of the 17 Year Stall in temps and it will be accurate.

I have to admitt that I am still sometimes surprised about the stupidity that the chief posts.

Drawing the conclusion that some data are a lie because the paraphrasing of a sentence or two from one scientist?

Ignoring thousands of articles and all the work by IPPC because they have come to the incorrect conclusion but imidietely believe everything they say (or is supposed to have said, the ippc office have said that the paraphrasing is incorrect) when they have came to the correct conclusion.

The psycology of that is quite obvios.
raymond phule

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:44pm PT
Now I know what monolits figure show. Interesting and it makes the chiefs meltdown even more fun.
raymond phule

climber
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:50pm PT
Cant you atleast try to answer the content in my posts when you quote part of them?
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:53pm PT
I have a serious (perhaps stupid) question, please.

Is the CO2 humans exhale, harmful to the environment?

New World Order. The amount that humans breath out would be taken up in the normal carbon cycle. There are perhaps enough green growing plants to deal with that amount. It is the vast and colossal amounts of CO2 that we create through industry, heating, and transportation, that has nowhere to go or be absorbed in the normal way. The normal carbon cycle is already maxed out and perhaps in balance, but all the extra has to go into the atmosphere and the ocean (part of the atmosphere/biosphere). Sure, it's CO2, but it is the colossal amounts we are adding to the biosphere that are throwing things out of balance first by heating the oceans mostly and adding to its acidity levels.
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 28, 2013 - 02:55pm PT
Ron, living organisms are carbon neutral (or carbon sinks with respect to the atmosphere). They take up more carbon than they emit during their life, which is how they grow. Once they die that carbon is either liberated by decomposition or stored. Fossil fuels are stored carbon that was built up over 10's of millions of years of high biological productivity. We are releasing that carbon directly into the atmosphere over hundreds of years.

Why is it so hard for you to comprehend the OBVIOUS imbalance? You said yourself increasing the CO2 in the atmosphere by 20% would definitely have consequences... we have increased it by 40%. Pull your head out of your ass.
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