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wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 11:50am PT
That is just it,your source ,naturalnews.com,has no facts to dispute.The article is opinion,not fact.Read,i know it must hurt,the NASA statement.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 11:53am PT
also posted was a NASA site,, why not pick on that too?


As stated, DISPUTE the fakts, not the messenger.



mo FAKTS: The various eco-grups have been putting up their flagships for well over a decade concerning global warming. each of these flagships being SUNK along the way.. Spotted owls,, polar bears,, penguins,, warming,,,, all shot down by facts. Fakt is that for the past 15 years the earths temps have been flat lined. NOT warming. Fakt is that CO2 has been proven to have OPPOSITE affects of the doomsday crowd. At least those coral reef fishies sure seem to think so.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 11:57am PT
And what does the NASA site say ,Ron?

monolith

climber
SF bay area
May 22, 2013 - 11:57am PT
Er, um, because we read the Nasa article.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 12:02pm PT
Thanks Monolith,i needed a good laugh.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
http://principia-scientific.org/supportnews/latest-news/163-new-discovery-nasa-study-proves-carbon-dioxide-cools-atmosphere.html


yet another example,,, dispute that.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
May 22, 2013 - 12:06pm PT
Yep, Norton, undeniable. (also, ip address are not banned here. Most people at home have dynamic IP's, that can change when the link is rebooted)


No one else in this thread uses long sequences of ^ to point upward


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wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 22, 2013 - 12:12pm PT
Yep,read it ,Ron,again opinion.The facts are at the NASA page,where does NASA say,GW is debunked,or CO2 is cooling the earth.


They dont ,everything else is conjecture.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 12:15pm PT
Hey wilbeer,, they told you there global warming when it ISNT and hasnt for 15 years.. I dont know what else will lead you down a path of clarity.




edit: Ed,, question,,, do you make your living of of matters such as GLOBAL WARMING?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 22, 2013 - 12:25pm PT
The Chief and Ron have made you hotheads seem very weak, impotent and obsolete. Find a new and healthier religion gentlemen, you don't stand a chance with this one as it will self destruct under the weight of unmistakeable, increasing real world observations in the near future anyway.Wait until your high priests and masters get their lazy asses around to processing this years data, you'll see.

Ed, why do you embarass yourself and damage your professional reputation with defense of a scheme that is rapidly losing its underpinnings. Save face man, at least go neutral.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
May 22, 2013 - 12:53pm PT
I agree with Rick. Their intransigence in the face of all reason and evidence is admirable. It is a lesson you wishy washy detail oriented communists should pay attention to.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 01:12pm PT
Nice work, Monolith!

Knotts IS the Chief ...reborn

He just can't stay away!

He swings so high, he swoops so low

Timothy Leary!
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 22, 2013 - 01:17pm PT
Just for YOU tricky Ricky...I toned down my rhetoric because Rong's feelings got hurt and I didn't want to get banned...I do enjoy looking at evidence that is presented FROM BOTH SIDES of the debate...

In college one of my professors had us look up scientific papers and studies that were used in advertisements (mostly in fitness mags)---it was incredible how many ads cited a specific study but then actually LIED and said their product was beneficial according to the study--most of the studies in fact had said the product had no effect or a detrimental effect while some had a placebo effect.

That is what I see with Rong's links and quotations from articles...I give him a break because he isn't educated...I'm not saying he's lying but that he doesn't understand what he is reading (if he even reads the links he's posting about).

Same with Le Chef...he didn't answer the question posed about his graph in regards to what "Ma" meant --look back at the thread---WHY because Le Chef doesn't know what it means in the graph or the written explanation of said graph (to be fair I don't know what it means either).

It's obvious they are both to old to change their spots or learn new tricks.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
"not educated" mt lion?? I can be put into any timber stand in the USA and come up with the proper silvicultural prescription to treat that stand successfully mimicking the natural ingredients that were taken from it. Ive written EAs for such as well. Did an intensive eight year study and tag program for micropterus salamoides that the Dept of Wildlife requested among many other things an "un educated type" can do. I could list off the Fed and State training course ive been too but that would take some time. But MANY are masters level accredited courses. You seem to think the only education comes from a college certificate. My Dad was a rocket scientist,, zero college and his name is on a stamp on the exhaust cone of the lunar module the "eagle" setting on the moon...
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 01:32pm PT
Ron, according to this information you've given us below, shouldn't we quit pumping so much CO2 into the atmosphere? The Chief said we want warm, not cold.

The result was an overall cooling effect that completely contradicts claims made by NASA's own climatology division that greenhouse gases are a cause of global warming. As illustrated by data collected using Sounding of the Atmosphere using Broadband Emission Radiometry (SABER), both carbon dioxide (CO2) and nitric oxide (NO), which are abundant in the earth's upper atmosphere, greenhouse gases reflect heating energy rather than absorb it.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 22, 2013 - 01:40pm PT
You see, THAT answer is up to debate. But the "global warming" theories keep getting these inconvenient icebergs colliding with their titanic.

Id stick close to those life boats.



how many Global Warming ECO industries have been seen to be just money pilfering scams?



Spotted Owl,, yep. It caused entire towns and an industry to all but vanish, and now the japanese do the work for us- out at sea on large ships dumping their refuse from milling right on overboard. And NOW it is known that the very same industry's create the preferred habitat of said friggin raptor.



Polar Bears,, yup. "to guote a 20 yr biologist in greenland,,"there arent just a few more bears, theres a hell of a lot more bears".

But hey you can STILL donate to the "cause" as that wanker commercial with the little Brit girl still plays in the tele.

Even dem pesky penguins of the far side seems to have created four new colonies.




Every one has been concerned over coral, yet the coral reef fish seem to be producing fry happy as "clams"..



Money has flowed to the critters mentioned above, yet none of it actually REACHED any of those critters in any direct way. No polar bears received raw steaks, no owls received any nesting grounds (except from timber companies doing sectioned clear cuts.) and no fish food was issued to the coral reef fish.

It did feed the workers and familys of these various dot-orgs which is good for them i suppose. But in FACT,, the number one contributors to any actual habitat enhancements, animal distributions and re-distributions and the proliferation of wildlife is,,drum roll please,,, HUNTERS/ Fisherman.

dirtbag

climber
May 22, 2013 - 01:42pm PT
Lol, Chief Running Mouth has been outed as Knott.
Bharata

Mountain climber
Pune
May 22, 2013 - 01:57pm PT
Ridiculous to claim 0.3 degree C of atmospheric warming for the world wide glacier melt back.

Summer season normal temperatures continue to prevail which combined with cloudless skies always melts glaciers.

Dirty glaciers will always melt a lot faster then clean white glaciers.



McHale's Navy

Trad climber
Panorama City, California & living in Seattle
May 22, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
You see, THAT answer is up to debate.

OK - debate it rather than beating around the bush.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
May 22, 2013 - 02:00pm PT
Ridiculous to claim 0.3 degree C of atmospheric warming for the world wide glacier melt back.

ok, so then what would you attribute the glacial melt to?
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