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dirtbag

climber
Jun 5, 2013 - 11:18am PT
^^^^^^Stupid post.

Would you want joe the plumber doing brain surgery, too? After all, his opinion is just as good as anyone else's.
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:21pm PT
Everything can be explained when you look at the FACT that the world is less than 10,000 years old...Humans and Dinosaurs walked the earth at the same time (evolution is junk science). The world was created in just 6 days with one day to rest and reflect on the beauty of the creation.

Everything went to hell in a bucket when Eve (evil) ate an apple given to her by a snake--that's when we realized we were naked and not like the dumb animals...shortly after we invented gun powder and killed off the dinosaurs, wolves, bears, and anything else that we could use to decorate our houses (that's right there was a BIG market for TAXIDERMY--imagine the skill needed to mount a T-Rex head in a life like manner).

Tornadoes, Hurricanes, Earthquakes have been increasing in power and number due to our lack of human sacrifice...we have made the one true god angry (he-- is a man not a female--is mad as hell and won't take it anymore) so we have to suffer.

This is obvious to the astute observer...Christian Science has proven this beyond all doubt!!!
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jun 5, 2013 - 12:56pm PT
Bruce Kay:
Can anyone else suggest whats going on with the mechanisms of increasing severity?

Nifty Youtube video explaining how Arctic warming affects the Jet Stream bringing weather to us all. Dr. Jennifer Francis (Rutgers U) is a well-known Arctic climate researcher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?list=UUtZdUYUZr493AUh_EInBYxQ&feature=player_embedded&v=u7EHvfaY8Zs
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:15pm PT
Thought i would bring to your guys attention debates on other threads. I knew the guy was going long but i left the vetting to you.Personally, i don't care about peoples religious affiliations, just about their ideas and if they stand up to scrutiny as judged by the real world conditions.Below is a link to an article, a little more mainstream, that asks a lot of questions for needed research going forward.

http://www.astrobio.net/pressrelease/5290/

Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:44pm PT
Everything went to hell in a bucket when Eve (evil) ate an apple given to her by a snake...

The fruit was not an apple... and the spitting serpent was not a snake. Eve snowballed Adam and god is strictly opposed to oral sex. If you allow anything other than vaginal sex, next thing you know everyone will turn gay and want to marry their stuffed animals.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jun 5, 2013 - 01:48pm PT
and god is strictly opposed to oral sex.

wow, I had no idea!

care to direct me to the bible passage?

it that the one next to the one where god commands us to murder entire towns?


Comfort the afflicted, and afflict the comfortable

John
8;22:50
Dr. Christ

Mountain climber
State of Mine
Jun 5, 2013 - 02:33pm PT
I stand corrected:

Psalm 81:10
Open your mouth wide, and I will fill it.

J man

Trad climber
morgan hill
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:36pm PT
The counter argument to increasing weather disasters is that people are living everywhere now and random storms have a much better chance of wrecking houses simply because there are structures in the way where previously only empty land existed.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 5, 2013 - 04:37pm PT
What the hell is thread devolving to? Are we talking Church of the Rock, Black Dike sect- Reverend Trans Vestite officiatinbg?
J man

Trad climber
morgan hill
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:35pm PT
Tornado Proof buildings? No such thing? Well wrong. There are and discovering it has set my sympathy meter down a half notch for the victims in OK.

Google search and there are lots of tornado proof school buildings,
homes, businesses, all over. Apparently not a secret.

Called Monolithic Domes. A reinforced concrete dome insulated with foam.

Some look better than others depending on how its decorated but given a choice of either standing in front of a pile of rubble that was my
ordinary wood frame home before the tornado or an intact dome I'd pick the dome.

(US school domes map link)
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=203944397190240592382.000464b0fac8cef5d4111&msa=0


(info)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monolithic_dome

The dome, when finished, is earthquake, tornado and hurricane resistant (the US Federal Emergency Management Agency rates them as
"near-absolute protection" from F5 tornadoes
and Category 5 Hurricanes). Recently, a number of monolithic domes constructed using MDI techniques have survived major disasters:

Several monolithic domes in Florida survived direct hits by Hurricane Katrina in 2005.

Many monolithic domes were in the path of the 2005 and 2006 wildfires in Oklahoma and Texas, and survived with only slight charring of the exterior foam insulation.

In 2003, a monolithic dome government building in Iraq survived a direct hit by a 5,000 lb (2,300 kg). bomb. The interior of the structure burned, but the dome itself remained standing.
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:38pm PT
Just checking in.

Is this thread taking on religious overtones?

What does Daoism have to say?

J man

Trad climber
morgan hill
Jun 5, 2013 - 07:53pm PT
I think some here want to let scientists perform a stupid ritual sacrifice
of the economy by raising fuel prices out of reach to reduce CO2.


Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:08pm PT
a long time ago
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 5, 2013 - 08:08pm PT
wanna talk greater sage grouse? (guffaw)


How about my idea to feed the hungry all over the world while lessening a certain feral animal problem in the great basin?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:48pm PT
And God said: let their be dog food, then their was.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:52pm PT
guffaw!
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 09:59pm PT

Nifty Youtube video explaining how Arctic warming affects the Jet Stream bringing weather to us all. Dr. Jennifer Francis (Rutgers U) is a well-known Arctic climate researcher.

Yeah, the jet-stream brings "weather", but so what? This warming Arctic hasn't effected the West Coast of US in any demonstrable fashion.

It's just cyclical weather. Nothing more!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:01pm PT
The counter argument to increasing weather disasters is that people are living everywhere now and random storms have a much better chance of wrecking houses simply because there are structures in the way where previously only empty land existed.

It's pretty easy to show with some simple searches that extreme storms are more numerous and larger.

http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=1674
Brandon-

climber
The Granite State.
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:20pm PT
I'm thinking that there's a huge difference between weather and climate.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
Jun 5, 2013 - 10:32pm PT
Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change

Isn't this group, by their very definition, looking in one direction, Ed? C'mon!

They will, of course, dispute Astro-physics as a source of 'change'. These IPCC people come off as whores for more grants and work.

But I know you'll disagree. Just my $.02
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