khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:38am PT
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I won't eat my hat, but I will sincerely apologize if Chuff's claims of a glorious military career are true.
We should find and reproduce that list of heroic accomplishments he posted a while back, before he edits them. He already edited the post about arguing here as expertly as serving his country.
I got a run but will look for it later.
Bobinc, when you ridicule everyone around you and discount their credentials, while holding up your own as proof that you are worth listening too, you deserve to be held to account.
Edit: Seems like Chief Chuffer already deleted that list. Huh.
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Burchey
Mountain climber
San Diego
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:38am PT
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I want to see Chief's birth certificate
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Nov 16, 2012 - 08:39am PT
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Nov 16, 2012 - 07:43am PT
ED, LARRY, HEALY, KMAN, BOBINC etal...
@The Chief, shut up when you talk to me.
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:40am PT
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khanom -- "I think you've lied about your SAR experience"
Ummmmm now you're making sh!t up.
So when Chief and his crew landed in Angel 1, I was seeing an illusion?
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:42am PT
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Well Werner I'd hope you'd chime in.
Care to elaborate?
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:43am PT
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You're completely wrong about his SAR experience.
Give it up man.
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:44am PT
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I kind of see your point.. but, again, what do Chief's military credentials have to do with his ability to evaluate serious research?
I think the point he's been making (indirectly) is that he does not respect some members of the research community because either
1) they are just feathering their own nest with sham results and finding more grant money to produce more of same or
2) even if they might be producing non-sham research, why haven't any meaninguful actions come of it by now?
On the second point, Chief has made it very clear that when HE was in active military service, every day was one of decisive action. I think the contrast between that lifestyle and what he thinks is going on in the climate change debate (endless, non-decisive noodling) is one of the things that really sticks in his craw.
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Malemute
Ice climber
the ghost
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Nov 16, 2012 - 08:57am PT
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If you're not being shot at, it's not really active military service, is it?
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WBraun
climber
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:02am PT
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The stupid dog barks again. ^^^^^
What a stupid despicable person you are Malemute.
Go away stupid dog ......
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:39am PT
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Those are rad pictures Huff and it's starting to look pretty good for your case.
They are just pictures however. It's kind of like Gore or Hansen or someone drawing pretty graphs without substantive evidence, wouldn't you say?
How about docs certifying your SERE Instructor stuff and that DD 101 or what ever that was?
I'm off to find my hat right now
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:53am PT
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while we are waiting, I really can't let this one go by without comment:
It was and is SCIENCE that produced and maintained both the monster TOBACCO, DRUG and OIL INDUSTRIES that are the spearheads of WALLSTREET.
This is a completely ignorant statement. Hardly worth commenting on really, except to point out to Burchey the reason that so much scorn and ridicule is sent Chiefs way. To blame "science", as if it is some sort of malevolent entity like satan or something, for forces clearly propelled by human will and action is just another representation of what passes for "argument" from the Chief. It is not so much his ideas that we take issue with, it is the lack of rational argument and evidence that he offers.
I hope I'm wrong about him being a basket case, but so far the weight of evidence supports it.
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bobinc
Trad climber
Portland, Or
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Nov 16, 2012 - 09:57am PT
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No problem giving Chief props for doing a lot of dangerous, thankless work for a long, long time. But how about that goes onto a different thread?
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The Chief
climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:07am PT
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No problem giving Chief props for doing a lot of dangerous, thankless work for a long, long time. But how about that goes onto a different thread
I concur.
This is a completely ignorant statement.
Why?? Cus it just goes to show how arrogant the entire SCIENCE issue truly is!
To blame "science",
Not "blaming... just showing how it all works.
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Norte_Caroliņa_Climber
Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:19am PT
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The "Chief" being a moran ain't got a lick to do with whether he served and in what capacity. Lord knows there were plenty of dumb bastards of all kinds in my time in the service (USAF, 452d AMW, 912th ARS). So lay off that stuff.
But its purdy common that the little uns are like yipyip dogs. Napolena complex, little man syndrome, whatever you-uns want to call it. Seen it too many times to count. Same thing that makes the little dick boys drive them big ol trucks. What kinda rig you drive anyway cheif? I'm peggin ya at about 5'3" from them pics.
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Bruce Kay
Gym climber
BC
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:27am PT
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circular arguments typically serve to deflect and obscure.
By the way, I can't help noticing that you changed your little avatar and i'd like to congradulate you on your choice.
Owls are commonly thought of as "wise" due to their appearances.
However they have been demonstrated (thats is, proven scientifically) to actually be among the stupidest of birds.
Now maybe that is just a malicious evil inflicted upon poor owls by that bad guy science, but I'm going with the crows.
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The Chief
climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:38am PT
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What kinda rig you drive anyway cheif? I'm peggin ya at about 5'3" from them pics.
Gambling most assuredly is your downfall.
2011 Ford Fiesta (avg 39-40 mpg btw)and you are off by about 5"... 68" Which btw is just shy 1" of the avg height of normal Male White Americans these days.
http://ahundredyearsago.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/height-male1.jpg
So your BS theory just got blown to shet, KC-135 boy.
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khanom
Trad climber
Greeley Hill
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Nov 16, 2012 - 10:50am PT
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DD214 or it didn't happen.
As for the SAR experience. That's great. I mean I'm glad you didn't completely make that up.
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The Chief
climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
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Nov 16, 2012 - 11:26am PT
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DD214 or it didn't happen.
Or what didn't happen!
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