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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 29, 2013 - 10:38pm PT
"they are all atheists" ROFLMAO! GUD one doc!
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
May 29, 2013 - 10:39pm PT
Bluering,maybe you can.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 29, 2013 - 10:41pm PT
I asked Base last week if he knew about the range of geo magnetic variations, particularly polar reversals,and their effects on climate due to allowing more or less cosmic Rays into the earths atmosphere. Anyway, no answer was forthcoming so i looked into on my own. Below is a very interesting and very recent paper i found on the subject. Everyone should take the time to at least read through the abstract.



http://www.pnas.org/content/110/4/1215.full
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 29, 2013 - 10:47pm PT
well doc, i believe in the spirit world, but im doubting the over all affect and the earths reactions, to what man has done thus far. Not saying the earth isnt changing because THAT is the one constant in its history isnt it...


edit: and over 3200 prominent scinetists are "deniers" by your standard.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 29, 2013 - 10:53pm PT
Craig, everything you post is totally biased. The 'Consensus Project'? Really?

You do the cause more harm than good, brah!

Hey, where's Al Gore nowadays?
Ron Anderson

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Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 29, 2013 - 10:56pm PT
Al Gore is emitting more methane than ever, as he sends the tree planting crew out in old gas guzzling buses with the gas dripping oil burning grease flinging augers to plant trees to erase donors "carbon footprints"..

hotdayum ya gotta love America.!;-) ONLY place on earth a millionaire can be born by inventing the "pet rock"...
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 29, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
doc im starting to get the picture about yu, hanging out on sites that you do..You NEED some clean Nevada air my friend. Ill bet you bought a pet rock!??
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
May 29, 2013 - 11:04pm PT
Good post Dr. F it is startling to look at the 5 characteristics of deniers...

Bluering is the earth 4.6 billion years old or less than 10,000 and why do you believe wichever one you choose?
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 29, 2013 - 11:07pm PT
Is sea ice increasing or decreasing? Are global temps declining or increasing over the past 10 years?

Is any of this because of us, if true? Has this ever happened in the past before the advent of coal production and oil use? Why did it?

Try to use logic and history to answer.

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 29, 2013 - 11:09pm PT
allow me Blue,, why Yes the ice has gone away in the arctic before, in times of MUCH LESS CO2 concentrations as evidenced by arctic ice core sampling..
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 29, 2013 - 11:16pm PT
Thats right, he is a card carrying christian hard core. I don't know about every science fan being an atheist but for sure most every hard core religious nut is a AGW denier.

I was wondering if you guys could explain this phenomena ?


Simple. There are numerous climate scientists who dispute the "consensus", and aren't 'paid by oil companies'. I'm sure you're aware of them but decline to cite them. Hence, you are a denier.

Not to mention the astrophysicists who point to solar activity for past warming. It is a cyclical solar phenomenon.

The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 29, 2013 - 11:20pm PT
Bluering is the earth 4.6 billion years old or less than 10,000

MTNLION, Which do you believe? If you in fact state 4.6 Billion than you are indeed a damn hypocrite. Cus if you believe in the 4.6 Billion mark, than you must also agree that this is by far not the first time warming has occurred on this planet. Nor will it be the last. By far.

The 'Consensus Project'

Yur an idiot Craig. Using that site is like a Muslim trying to convert a Christian to their side using this as a ref

http://www.al-islam.org/short/jihad/

Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 29, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
there a pill for that ^^^^...
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 29, 2013 - 11:26pm PT
As for being "bought off" a person can do that to himself without any oil company, hence my question about religion.

What about the other side of the equation. Can AGW proponents even POSSIBLY be persuaded by grants and money? Look both directions before you accuse one side.

As you well know, there is a clear tendency for the religious, and the more religious the greater the tendency, to oppose all and every element of AGW theory.

Again, look at yourself. I think religion has nothing to do with it. More of a cyclical, natural thing.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 29, 2013 - 11:28pm PT
I'm agnostic by the way, if that makes any difference in terms of going to hell later on.

Yur not going to hell. Unless you believe this dimension of existence is considered hell here on earth. Cus you will return over and over until you learn what you are destined to learn in order to move on. Only you and the Universe knows what that may be. Period.

Wrong

As wrong as you are Craig. Cus your side doesn't have a clue either. Just a theory. Just a theory. More like an agenda. But, theory none the less.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
May 29, 2013 - 11:30pm PT
one thing for sure CO2 DOESNT seem to be a key in ice melting in the arctic. Its melted under FAR less CO2, hasnt it.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
May 29, 2013 - 11:32pm PT
Religion or Spirituality?

God told me you are 100% wrong

No Craig. You did that. This is all theory. Thus no one is wrong nor right.
bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 29, 2013 - 11:33pm PT
How about you other denier idiots? Or is religion just another question too hot to handle?


You just WANT to make it about religion because if fits your lame narrative.

Meh.
dirtbag

climber
May 29, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
Just a theory. Just a theory.

Do you even know what a theory is? (Without looking it up.)

bluering

Trad climber
Santa Clara, CA
May 29, 2013 - 11:37pm PT
Look.... its really quite simple. Look at the question asked.

think about it.


Then answer it.


You think you can handle that?


I answered you already. It has nothing to do with religion or faith.
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