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The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 14, 2012 - 07:49pm PT
The Chief...I have a gut feeling just like you do but my gut is telling me that our winters are getting shorter...I base this on living in the sierra for 35 years and being outside most of the time while making causal observations ...My gut is bigger than yours so my opinion holds more sway Gunny boi...

35 years huh?

I think your gut has overloaded your ass and gone straight to your brain.

How about we do the numbers in the past nine years on just your hill alone, MMSA, Rootingass...

02-03: 276"
03-04: 348"
04-05: 570"
05-06: 576"
06-07: 222"
07-08: 333"
08-09: 470"
09-10: 533"
10-11: 661"
11-12: 241

The 38 year avg is 369".

http://patrol.mammothmountain.com/SWEChart.png

With the first snows coming the first week of Oct and snowfall still occurring through June for five of them years. That is nine months of snowfall.

Five of the past nine years the hill opened the first week of Nov and stayed operating through the 4th of July. That being record setters.

Three of them years were record breakers for total snowfall as well.

But I guess we can now honestly say that the increase in temps create higher amounts of snowfall and allows for longer snow percip throughout the year.

Got it.

So maybe there is a reason your gut has gotten bigger over them years. Get off your ass more I say.

graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 14, 2012 - 07:56pm PT
Whale of a dishonorable lie, more like it.


I don't think the Chief is lying about what he did in the Navy, but that doesn't mean that he knows anything about global warming.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 14, 2012 - 07:58pm PT
but that doesn't mean that he knows anything about global warming.

Nor do you or anyone else here for that matter.


BTW: Never claimed I did Granites. YOU all did and continue to do so....


Oh yeah Rottingless, ice season throughout this area has been lengthening each year. Climbed at LVC through the middle of April last season as I did the season before.

Thor Falls above UBSL remained in tact the season before last through the end of July with the left side remaining till the middle of August. Totally unheard of.

And last month, several cities and towns in the US broke records for the lowest temps the first week of Oct. Amazing how the mainstream media never screamed that news.

http://www.crh.noaa.gov/news/display_cmsstory.php?wfo=fsd&storyid=87967&source=0
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 14, 2012 - 08:00pm PT
A deeper snowpack doesn't mean that winter is shorter or longer or that the average winter temps aren't higher or lower.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 14, 2012 - 08:01pm PT
I'll look for you next time I watch Top Gun, Chief.

Top Gun
And flight deck operations are a world very familiar to Poedtke, who spent more than a dozen years of his Naval career on four aircraft carriers as a Naval Aviation Bosun’s Mate, achieving the rank of Chief, he was in charge of firefighting teams in one of the most dangerous jobs on the planet: launching and recovering aircraft at sea.

One of his crews won top honors for firefighting four years in a row. And you might not have met him personally, but if you’ve seen major films such as “Top Gun” or “Hunt for the Red October,” you’ve actually seen Poedtke and his team in action.

“I was serving on the U.S.S. Enterprise when those scenes were made,” Poedtke recalls. “That’s me and my crew in the first four minutes of ‘Top Gun.’ I’m the guy putting an A-7E (Corsair fighter plane) on Cat (Catapult) 2.”
dirtbag

climber
Nov 14, 2012 - 08:02pm PT
Chief is wrong, he isn't a skeptic: he's just obstinate.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 14, 2012 - 08:10pm PT
A deeper snowpack doesn't mean that winter is shorter or longer or that the average winter temps aren't higher or lower.

Ah, let's see. When the snow flies for over NINE months outta the year, that means what?

Oh yeah, I forgot, GW now makes the temps remain colder for longer periods of the year.

Got it.

khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Nov 14, 2012 - 08:23pm PT
How do we know it's not a lie? Because he told us so?


Until I see the DD214 I have to conclude, based on available evidence, that he's lying about his military career. If not that he was in the military, certainly what he did.


Chief Toilet Cleaner, where's the DD214?



I've thought about this, and I believe that his credibility will increase by roughly 1-2% if he proves he's the "hero"* he claims to be.




* And unlike most americans I don't believe serving in the military, particularly during periods of relative peace, qualifies you for huge kudos. WWII veterans excepted. It's a job.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 14, 2012 - 09:22pm PT
When the snow flies for over NINE months outta the year, that means what

It means that we're getting more snow because thanks to warming snow that would have gone the NW is coming to us. Enjoy it.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 14, 2012 - 09:30pm PT
How do we know it's not a lie? Because he the science man told us so?

That is my line Kamoncoffin with the bold being my addition to your line.

warming snow that would have gone the NW is coming to us.

Graniteass...

Warming brings the snow down from the NW?

Ok... got it.

Is that why Alaska had a record cold and snowfall season last Winter?

I guess the warming dispersed the snowfall north last year huh?

The ADO and PDO have nothing to with it... ok.

Regardless the weather/temp event, we can attribute it all to... "Warming".

he proves he's the "hero"* he claims to be.

I claimed nothing of sorts Kaminoff.... you did.

Do you even know wtf a DD214 is?
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 15, 2012 - 08:09am PT
No and quite frankly we could give a sh#t

What your militaristic chest thumping has to do with this thread is beyond me.


To get back on topic, this up coming Ken Burns doc on the Dust Bowl of the thirties should be relevant:

http://www.motherjones.com/environment/2012/11/ken-burns-learn-dust-bowl-prevent-another-sandy

The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 15, 2012 - 08:49am PT
This profile of the Modeling scam just released. Fortune telling compared to Reality:






raymond phule

climber
Nov 15, 2012 - 09:10am PT
Strange that the measurement data look different than they usually do.No peak at all around 1998.

Do you have a peer reviewed source for that figure or at least an explanation of what is shown?
khanom

Trad climber
Greeley Hill
Nov 15, 2012 - 09:10am PT
How's that DD214 coming along there Chuff?
Norte_Caroliña_Climber

Gym climber
BigWall Baller From the Holler
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:05am PT
Me bigum Chief. Me no believe in Science Man. Me ride bigum boat with heap big plane, all design with no help of science.

All design by fire-put-em-out braves like me, no scam science, grandfather in sky and eagle spirit designum wings, heap smart sqauw designum electronics use throwing bones no use science. So say me, bigum Chief Chihuahua.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 15, 2012 - 11:25am PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Yu em absulutem ritem... Soo HA HA HA Hem!
Malemute

Ice climber
the ghost
Nov 15, 2012 - 12:25pm PT
What your militaristic chest thumping has to do with this thread is beyond me.
It's an attempt to compensate for low self esteem.
The Chief

climber
Climber from the Land Mongols under the Whites
Nov 15, 2012 - 01:00pm PT
It's an attempt to compensate for low self esteem.

Now you are a psychologist... or this opinion just from you personal experience Malmut.

Probability says the latter.

Got it.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Nov 15, 2012 - 01:06pm PT
The Chief - If there is one science that anyone is capable of attaining some expertize in just due to a long number of years spent in the real world, it is psychology.

Even you, especially if you were to occasionally look in the mirror.
graniteclimber

Trad climber
The Illuminati -- S.P.E.C.T.R.E. Division
Nov 15, 2012 - 01:41pm PT
If I can play psychologist too, I don't think Chief suffers from low self-esteem. Instead, the reverse.
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