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Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 24, 2013 - 01:58pm PT
dirtbag

climber

Jun 24, 2013 - 10:50am PT
I nearly spewed my coffee with that balloon shot Ron. Too funny!




I thought it strangely fitting this am Dirt !;-) Ironic to multiple levels visually lol!
Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 24, 2013 - 01:59pm PT
Yeah, it fits the salad tossing the skeptic side is doing for sure!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 24, 2013 - 02:25pm PT
heres what you GW types need to do.. LEAD by example. No more driving to exotic far off climbing locales. No more hot air baloons. No more JET PLANE flights to hither and yawn. No more burning of trash, leaves, wood, or any other combustibles even of they are a neutral component visa-vi CO2.
Restrict your driving to necessary trips only. Climb at only the nearest craglet to you. If you want to go climb Whitney, take the bus from reno to Bigpine.


No campfires even in wilderness areas in the dead of winter. No more STOVES in the out doors either. No more aerosol cans of any fashion from paint to hairspray to bug juice.


No more outdoor barb-Qs either. And you must install large vacuum like apparatus to your home to suck out the methane and other pollutants filter them the release pure oxygen.


Show us you care!!!


Jebus H Bomz

climber
Peavine Basecamp
Jun 24, 2013 - 02:34pm PT
11-16mpg speaks!

My 38mpg farts in your general direction! Gets off road a bit too (a very tiny bit), lol.

Yes, the same position as The Chief's. I don't even believe in it but I'm doing it better than you! You guys earn a "C" for cynicism.

Meanwhile, the other Rick is spouting off as much CO2 going to some craglets as Ed is going to Lovers Leap.

Meanwhile, the backwoods boys are getting all their other essentials trucked on down the highway, far off the main hubs.

Meanwhile, the beef ranching takes up an incredible amount of H2O, land, and petroleum. I believe Ed is vegetarian?

I'm not an enviro, I just play one on TV when I'm being a sarcastic jackass. Boy, that balloon pic is more and more fitting of you guys!

Good night, Mathilda, you guys will actually have to start using bait if you want more today! Good lawd!
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 24, 2013 - 02:47pm PT
im sure you hit the nail on the head with czarobama Bruce. you dont think for a minute they havent planned on getting more duckets outta this scam now did you?
mountainlion

Trad climber
California
Jun 24, 2013 - 06:32pm PT
Chief Tiny Crotch Rocket I am still waiting for you to tell us what YOU DO to mitigate the effects of hunger, poverty, and other afflictions you believe we can have an impact on?????????????????????????????????

Truth is you don't do anything for any of those causes...CORRECT!!

HYPOCRIT :0
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 24, 2013 - 07:34pm PT
Yes, the dear leader will be singing the tune to his rapidly dwindling choir tomorrow. You hotheads will be slobbering all over yourselfs with joy, oblivious of the misery the agenda would needleesly cause. If he overreaches, considering his sinking trust among the people, it might well be the straw that breaks the camels back.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 24, 2013 - 09:10pm PT
Yep Chief.. And any rancher on earth knows the less grass grows the less their animals do. Howzabout dat LMAO! But im glad they "studied" that BASIC rancher/farmer 101 topic..
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 24, 2013 - 11:11pm PT
How do you reconcile The Chiefs helping of humanity with his other views on issues like the topic of this thread? That's easy Bruce, he's right and the rest of you opposing are dead wrong.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jun 24, 2013 - 11:24pm PT

http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/interview-hans-von-storch-on-problems-with-climate-change-models-a-906721.html

SPIEGEL: Just since the turn of the millennium, humanity has emitted another 400 billion metric tons of CO2 into the atmosphere, yet temperatures haven't risen in nearly 15 years. What can explain this?

Storch: So far, no one has been able to provide a compelling answer to why climate change seems to be taking a break. We're facing a puzzle. Recent CO2 emissions have actually risen even more steeply than we feared. As a result, according to most climate models, we should have seen temperatures rise by around 0.25 degrees Celsius (0.45 degrees Fahrenheit) over the past 10 years. That hasn't happened. In fact, the increase over the last 15 years was just 0.06 degrees Celsius (0.11 degrees Fahrenheit) -- a value very close to zero. This is a serious scientific problem that the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) will have to confront when it presents its next Assessment Report late next year.

SPIEGEL: Do the computer models with which physicists simulate the future climate ever show the sort of long standstill in temperature change that we're observing right now?

Storch: Yes, but only extremely rarely. At my institute, we analyzed how often such a 15-year stagnation in global warming occurred in the simulations. The answer was: in under 2 percent of all the times we ran the simulation. In other words, over 98 percent of forecasts show CO2 emissions as high as we have had in recent years leading to more of a temperature increase.

SPIEGEL: How long will it still be possible to reconcile such a pause in global warming with established climate forecasts?

Storch: If things continue as they have been, in five years, at the latest, we will need to acknowledge that something is fundamentally wrong with our climate models. A 20-year pause in global warming does not occur in a single modeled scenario. But even today, we are finding it very difficult to reconcile actual temperature trends with our expectations.
dirtbag

climber
Jun 24, 2013 - 11:35pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ yawn ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 24, 2013 - 11:49pm PT
And yet there are anomalies like this;

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capital-weather-gang/post/third-hottest-summer-on-record-in-lower-48/2012/09/10/43b42dde-fb72-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_blog.html
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 24, 2013 - 11:53pm PT
And exactly how do they figure a global mean temperature rise of 0.8c. What's is the observational means of measurement for the pre satellite era? Isn't the very term "global Warming" incorrect?
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:00am PT
Yes Rick, it's not really called that any longer. That's the default term for morons.

The President is giving a Climate Change speech on Tuesday. It's not a speech on Global Warming, although they may change the text for residents of Alaska.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Soon to be Nipple suckling Liberal
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:06am PT
Ed you DO realize that entire "Bison abstract" you posted took a few paragraphs to say: less grass less growth LOL! Not to worry, the rising cO2 will accelerate that grass land growth and it will be like yellow stone 88 post fire! Fat n happy critters!
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:18am PT
Ron, that CO2 magic happens under ideal conditions. Unfortunately, CO2 can also exacerbate drought and flooding, neither of which are all that great for plant growth.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:18am PT
Well, unlike the esteemed dr. Christ, you can at least spell moron McHale. That's a start. While your guys are clutching at straws to keep the phony CAGW consensus together their is a growing consensus of scientists believing the globe is going into prolonged period of low TSI and solar magnetic activity, therefore cooling. Anyone up for a wager on the prevailing consensus circa 2018?
McHale's Navy

Trad climber
From Panorama City, CA
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:24am PT
Funny, it's your side that seems to like to bet Rick. I think that's just another form of hyperbole.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:44am PT
I'll match the bets. The devil is in the details so we must precisely define how consensus will be judged. Who holds the cash?

How about something like the Nenana ice classic? We start with today's mean annual average temp and the closest to predicting the temp in 2018 gets the pot?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jun 25, 2013 - 12:57am PT
agreed- the Ron and Ed part. As for scientists, i'm very confident the real science is on my side.
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