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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:06pm PT
Cool. All Rick Sumner has is a plumbers butt
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:12pm PT
^ nature abhors the inside of sumner's skull
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:13pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/09/23/if-all-you-see-1261/
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
Surely you wouldn't dream of cherry-picking that article from climate.gov

It says

1) surface temperatures paused due to natural limited variations
2) rate of GHG emissions has not slowed
3) rising GHGs mean More warming
4) the excess heat imbalance has continued
5) the excess heat has mainly gone into the oceans.
6) that heat can not just continue to "hide" in the depths.
7) other indications of warmoing have continued: rising sea level + melting ice.

It's just that simple. Even Leo and Al can understand the basics.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 04:17pm PT
If you're referring to those graphs from last week, they support the no warming position.


OK, I suppose that is an answer. But you fail in explaining how they "support the no warming position."

I've also explained how your effort to invalidate my trendline was BS.

Did you really? Got a link?


Your theory of what the graphs represent seems to have been thoroughly debunked. In fact, you still say that they "support the no warming position." Can you explain how they do that? So far, you've been mimicing a car company, Dodge, Dodge, Dodge.


When you begin to answer my questions about your posts, I'll begin to answer yours about my posts.

I answered your question.

Your turn.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:27pm PT
I answered your question.

Actually, I don't believe you did.

But, if a vague answer is good enough for you, then you should be happy with the answer that I already gave to your question.


So, if you want more details, then offer details to my question--how is your graphs relevant? You say they support the no warming scenario, can you be more expressive? I don't see how they do.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:30pm PT
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH

Sep 23, 2014 - 04:55pm PT
How about a link to The Cowtan & Way Index you mentioned the other day?

How about you look it up yourself? It's now updated through July 2014 but is kept in a secret location where only people with an Al Gore decoder ring, or a brain of their own, can find it.

I did a search for it. No dice. That's why I've repeatedly asked you for it.

How about it?
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:33pm PT
Splater

climber
Grey Matter

Sep 23, 2014 - 05:14pm PT
Surely you wouldn't dream of cherry-picking that article from climate.gov

And what part of "Since the turn of the century, however, the change in Earth’s global mean surface temperature has been close to zero. " did you not understand, SPLATER!
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:37pm PT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:27pm PT
I answered your question.

Actually, I don't believe you did.

But, if a vague answer is good enough for you, then you should be happy with the answer that I already gave to your quest

Same old K-man. Always the lazy, cowardly, little weasel.

Admit it. Your 47% year over year claim is bullsh#t. Wrong. Possibly an innocent mistake. Possibly a lie. Given your reluctance to own up, I'm guessing the latter.

And try to keep up. Don't ask questions, if you're not going to check for the answers.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:38pm PT
Canada announces it will follow U.S. lead on climate change


This is where Harper does what he does best.... back stab his bro Tony Abott
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:40pm PT
And what part of "Since the turn of the century, however, the change in Earth’s global mean surface temperature has been close to zero. " did you not understand, SPLATER!


Actually, the rest of the paragraph reads like this:

Since the turn of the century, however, the change in Earth’s global mean surface temperature has been close to zero. Yet despite the halt in acceleration, each of the last three decades has been successively warmer at the Earth’s surface than any preceding decade since 1850.


Why did you cut off the end of the paragraph, The Chief?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:42pm PT
Sketch, you don't answer an easy question from me, but then call me lazy?

BTW, you don't know how to use Google, do you.

Took me a second to find this:

http://tamino.wordpress.com/2014/02/06/cowtan-way/

After a minute of reading that, I found this:

http://www-users.york.ac.uk/~kdc3/papers/coverage2013/update.140106.pdf


But this was the first result from Google when I entered "Cowtan and Way index":

http://climateaudit.org/2013/11/18/cotwan-and-way-2013/


Sketch, you really tried to search for this?
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:46pm PT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:40pm PT

Since the turn of the century, however, the change in Earth’s global mean surface temperature has been close to zero.


Why did you cut off the end of the paragraph, The Chief?

Ah, let's see KAVEMAN, because the POINT is regarding the 15 year or so PAUSE that you and other's here seem to keep DENYING exists.

That is WHY KAVEMAN!



Now do FOCUS on the 15 or so year PAUSE/HIATUS
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
Ah, let's see KAVEMAN, because the POINT is regarding the 15 year or so PAUSE that you and other's here seem to keep DENYING exists.


Want to earn $100? Show where I denied the so-called pause.


It's either a hundred bucks, or you are a liar. What's it gonna be?
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:53pm PT
Excellent posts this morning by Malemute and Bruce!


Did you know that there always has been and always will be a certain amount of hypocrisy?
In order to prevent hypocrisy, humans will have to go extinct.
to summarize:
One person didn't do their share - - so nobody should.

Equally fine logic in the name of consistency:

Someone in Vegas has a green lawn -- so no one should ever conserve water.
Jane once had a bonfire and made a s'more -- burn down the entire Amazon.
Cain once lit a match -- so now Able is justified in burning tires to heat his mansion.
Somebody lied -- everyone should.
Someone else is rich -- 1) eliminate capitalism or 2) we should all just rape and plunder.
Some parents mistreat their kids -- 1) forbid pregnancy or 2) all kids should start work 7/24 at age 4.
A capitalist exploited the workers -- we need more slavery.
Some food got contaminated - - everyone should grow their own food.
Something is toxic - - all manufacturing should be banned.
A mine caused pollution -- each bushel of ore should be inspected 17 times.
There are some bad regulations -- all regulations are thrown out.
Bill once rode on a diesel bus - - Sam is justified in taking a helicopter to work.
Tracy once drank from a disposable container -- so all recycling is worthless.
DT has a teak table - - so all old growth should be cut down.
A cop shot someone without enough cause - - so we don't need any police.
An Asian person is rich -- so all global trade is forbidden.
Leo is in a fancy car -- so let's build 1000 coal plants.
Green power killed 1000 birds - - so let's build 1000 coal plants.
Someone dumped trash - - I shall dump 1000 tons of trash.
One judge is crooked -- we don't need no judges.
JW drives poorly -- so all private cars are outlawed.
Someone has a gas guzzler -- everyone should drive their own bus, towing a trailer of toys.
Some people don't make good soldiers -- so in a war we should just surrender.
Some students disrupt classrooms -- so all schools should be closed.
A discouraging word was heard -- the skies should be smoggy all day.
Some people are trolls -- we need to censor the internet.
Someone photobombed a page -- I will photobomb twice per day.
One denier misunderstands a lot -- all deniers should misread everything.
One person thinks the ocean creates energy -- everyone should go insane.
Some people misuse their rights -- burn the constitution.
A store sold me a bad apple -- everyone should cheat and steal.
Somewhere there is a welfare queen -- all charity is worthless.
Bill Gates has a big house -- his charities are worthless.
Warren Buffet is rich -- his statement on tax rates is invalid.
George Soros is rich and suggests how to improve markets -- all markets should be run by Goldman.
Bernie Madoff seemed like a nice guy in person - - the SEC always does a fine job.
Raj used insider stock information -- all equities are outlawed.
Nixon wasn't 100% evil -- Idi Amin / Pol Pot are much more consistent leaders.
Sarah and Michelle often don't make sense -- all spoken communication shall consist of smiles and clapping.
One person thinks surface temperature trend of the last 12 years can predict the next 100 years -- all science is forbidden.
This post is not as elegant as Shakespeare -- all written communication is forbidden.
Some people don't follow every line in the sacred book -- must forbid religion.
There's a religious terrorist out there somewhere -- all religious people should be put to the stake.
A route has an unneeded bolt -- all routes should be sport bolted.
Someone left more than footsteps, -- so all wilderness should be closed to people.
A hypocrite failed to be hypocritical one day - hmmm

Did you know that whether or not Henry Paulson or Tim Geithner are hypocrites, does not change what society should do about global warming?
Did you know that Leo and Al are not the leaders of Climate Science, merely part time spokesmen?
Did you know that in order to study ice cores in glaciers, scientists burn fossil fuels to get there?
that in order to testify for the clean air act in the early 70s, people actually flew to Washington DC?
that in order to put climate science satellites in orbit, greenhouse gases are emitted?
that in order to write this post, greenhouse gases are emitted?
that for every bit of hot air from deniers, greenhouse gases are emitted?


By refusing to be part of the solution,
you are going to get a worse solution than you would if you participated.
Earmarks, loopholes, and special interest games will be added in order to get enough votes, just like most new bills.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:56pm PT
Don't ask questions, if you're not going to check for the answers.

I did check, the answer isn't there. That's why I keep asking you to post a link to your answer, because I know you can't.


And, let us know when you find Cowtan and Way ;-)
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:57pm PT
Good post ,Splater.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 05:58pm PT
Waiting KAVEMAN!




k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:51pm PT
Ah, let's see KAVEMAN, because the POINT is regarding the 15 year or so PAUSE that you and other's here seem to keep DENYING exists.


Want to earn $100? Show where I denied the so-called pause.


It's either a hundred bucks, or you are a liar. What's it gonna be?

Show me where you once agreed with the 15 or so year PAUSE/HIATUS, KAVEMAN, and I will confess to being a liar.

Right now... post it up!



You can't.


JUST like you will NEVER find one post by me DENYING that it is warming. Not one fking post.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 05:59pm PT
By refusing to be part of the solution,
you are going to get a worse solution than you would if you participated.



Worth a repeat.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 06:03pm PT
Show me where you once agreed with the 15 or so year PAUSE/HIATUS, KAVEMAN, and I will confess to being a liar.



The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep

Sep 22, 2014 - 07:43am PT
CRUNCH!

Yet the temps have remained steady for the past 15 or so years.



Okay, smart guy. Tell us what's gone on with global temps over the last 15 years. More global warming? Maybe global cooling?

Tell us. In your own words.

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 22, 2014 - 08:46am PT
Yet the temps have remained steady for the past 15 or so years.

Yes, steadily being the hottest years on record.


There you go The Chief, I admitted that the temperatures have remained steady over the past 15 years.


And you are a fat liar.
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