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The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 09:43am PT
Clueless Fartmental??


How do all them FANS that go watch them F1 races get there.


How do all them F1 cars and ALL the support entities that make F1 Racing happen, get transported to each of the race courses world wide?

How are all the support agencies and infrastructure for all them race tracks powered?


How bout all the tires and fuel hoses and other tid bit components that make up the F1 car, what are they all composed of?


What are the tracks that them F1 cars race on made of?


ETC ETC ETC.... ZERO Carbon Footprint huh Fartmental??



No Fartmental.. not clueless. You are just another piece of shet jokeazz AGW ideological drum pounding hypocrite.

Straight up.....
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 09:46am PT
Formula 1 runs on methanol

Um... yeah.... okay.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 23, 2014 - 09:48am PT
BRUCEE KY, WTF does that dumbass bitch Palin have anything to do with the fact that everyone of the people that are supposedly leading your AGW ideology are complete hypocrites and are being called out on it...

I know simple abstraction is a stretch for you Chuff but really you're overthinking it, which is no stretch at all. Palin and her brood, god bless them are you. You are them. They think like you and you think like them, which is how it is that a Wassilla crack family can come to the same incompetent conclusions as you, with the same illusions of pride.

Thats all. remember, when Karl Rove said " the problem with you is you are part of the reality based community...." ? He wasn't kidding. that is the simple devide between Red and blus state america. One subscribes to a reality based understanding of our world, and the other does not. It vreally dosn't matter if you go to the same Church as the Palins or not, you still fly around in the same world of myth and magic, like Peter Pan where really all you need is to believe.

The other world requires knowledge and humility, one balancing the other. No need for either in the world of the Palins and chuff.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Sep 23, 2014 - 09:53am PT
here's one for the anti science turds:
http://www.googlesciencefair.com/en/competition/previous-years
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 09:53am PT
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM

Sep 23, 2014 - 09:51am PT
How do all them FANS that go watch them F1 races get there.


How do all them F1 cars and ALL the support entities that make F1 Racing happen, get transported to each of the race courses world wide?

How bout all the tires and fuel hoses and other tid bit components that make up the F1 car, what are they all composed of?

What are the tracks that them F1 cars race on made of?

Let's take your argument to it's natural retarded conclusion....being alive makes you a hypocrite. Right?

Your neighbor is calling....he wants you to help him cut the tail off a dead coyote. Very manly, that.

Run Chief! Run!

Ah, how can I be a Hypocrite if I am NOT THE ONE BEATING THE AGW IDEOLOGICAL BULLSHET drum... FARMWENTAL.




YOU ARE!


That seems to be the new mod of op when you AGW ECO FREAK jackazzes are called out on your HYPOCRISY bullshet!







FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM

Sep 23, 2014 - 09:51am PT

Your neighbor is calling....he wants you to help him cut the tail off a dead coyote. Very manly, that.

OK RIKSXWIVES!




You really are one bigazz loser Fartwenchell. Seriously.






The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 09:59am PT
Gee...getting a little hot are you now FARTMENTAL/RKSXWIVES/GLANTON


Another par for the course jackazz reaction.. Just like good old Hypocrite RFK Jr.


Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:00am PT




Thank you, Mr Secretary General, your excellencies, ladies and gentleman, and distinguished guests. I’m honored to be here today, I stand before you not as an expert but as a concerned citizen, one of the 400,000 people who marched in the streets of New York on Sunday, and the billions of others around the world who want to solve our climate crisis.

As an actor I pretend for a living. I play fictitious characters often solving fictitious problems.

I believe humankind has looked at climate change in that same way: as if it were a fiction, happening to someone else’s planet, as if pretending that climate change wasn’t real would somehow make it go away.

But I think we know better than that. Every week, we’re seeing new and undeniable climate events, evidence that accelerated climate change is here now. We know that droughts are intensifying, our oceans are warming and acidifying, with methane plumes rising up from beneath the ocean floor. We are seeing extreme weather events, increased temperatures, and the West Antarctic and Greenland ice-sheets melting at unprecedented rates, decades ahead of scientific projections.

None of this is rhetoric, and none of it is hysteria. It is fact. The scientific community knows it, Industry and governments know it, even the United States military knows it. The chief of the US navy’s Pacific command, admiral Samuel Locklear, recently said that climate change is our single greatest security threat.

My Friends, this body – perhaps more than any other gathering in human history – now faces that difficult task. You can make history ... or be vilified by it.

To be clear, this is not about just telling people to change their light bulbs or to buy a hybrid car. This disaster has grown BEYOND the choices that individuals make. This is now about our industries, and governments around the world taking decisive, large-scale action.

I am not a scientist, but I don’t need to be. Because the world’s scientific community has spoken, and they have given us our prognosis, if we do not act together, we will surely perish.

Now is our moment for action.

We need to put a pricetag on carbon emissions, and eliminate government subsidies for coal, gas, and oil companies. We need to end the free ride that industrial polluters have been given in the name of a free-market economy, they don’t deserve our tax dollars, they deserve our scrutiny. For the economy itself will die if our ecosystems collapse.

The good news is that renewable energy is not only achievable but good economic policy. New research shows that by 2050 clean, renewable energy could supply 100% of the world’s energy needs using existing technologies, and it would create millions of jobs.

This is not a partisan debate; it is a human one. Clean air and water, and a livable climate are inalienable human rights. And solving this crisis is not a question of politics. It is our moral obligation – if, admittedly, a daunting one.

We only get one planet. Humankind must become accountable on a massive scale for the wanton destruction of our collective home. Protecting our future on this planet depends on the conscious evolution of our species.

This is the most urgent of times, and the most urgent of messages.

Honoured delegates, leaders of the world, I pretend for a living. But you do not. The people made their voices heard on Sunday around the world and the momentum will not stop. And now it’s YOUR turn, the time to answer the greatest challenge of our existence on this planet ... is now.

I beg you to face it with courage. And honesty. Thank you.

transcript from
http://www.theguardian.com/environment/2014/sep/23/leonarodo-dicaprio-un-climate-change-speech-new-york
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:06am PT
I beg you to face it with courage. And honesty. Thank you.



Yeah...


Then he turns around and gets on this ....




To fly down to this....




To go play on these...




Then he flies his PVT JET back to this Mansion that has not ONE solar panel on the premises...





WTF happened to that "HONESTY" part, Leonardo.....




He most assuredly has to be Fartwenchels HERO! Cus Leonardo loves to fly his PVT JET to sponsor, watch and enjoy, of all things, Formula 1 races, all over the world.









You jackazzes are just downright pathetic.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:24am PT
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM

Sep 23, 2014 - 09:40am PT
WHat a clueless retard you are

FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM

Sep 23, 2014 - 09:51am PT

Let's take your argument to it's natural retarded conclusion....being alive makes you a hypocrite. Right?

Love the irony.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:27am PT
Now ya know that old FARTWHENCHELL is out right embarrassed when called on his pure methanol bullshet hypocrisy.



Like the little spoiled brat kid that he is, he resorts to drawing little pictures.



One again the true jackazz comes out.


Ole Fartwhenchels hero... Wonder how much Koch Bros/Big Oil FF power it took to generate this thing...



Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:31am PT
You better watch it, Chief.

Supposedly, Fortmental has been to Washburn's Thumb on McKinley. It's about 3700 feet below the summit.

He's not to be trifled with.

I'm not kidding.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:36am PT
From what I understand Sketch, he, Fartwhenchelmental has a serious issue with completing any summit bid.

Must be that pathetic finger pointing excuse behavior that he consistently displays here on this thread.


Poor guy.



Maybe he should resort to one of these that his Hero loves using... Might just get him a tad bit closer to them summits.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:42am PT
Speaking of spoiled brats, what does it take exactly to deliberately photo bomb and blow up every page?

But never mind that. Here is a pretty good summation of the incredibly stunted intellect of Palin / Chuff America:

But this isn’t simply a matter of right-wing news sites impugning environmentalists, or of critics nitpicking anything — even a problem that’s universal to big crowds everywhere — in order to mock people who offend their ideological tribalism. Focusing on the marchers’ trash is also an example of one of the most fundamental errors in the entire climate discussion: namely, the assumption that what matters is individual virtue.

This line of reasoning is basically individualist: it says that combating climate change and moving to an ecologically sustainable society requires adding up hundreds of millions of changes in individual habits and values. Under this frame, when the People’s Climate marchers demand policies to combat climate change, they’re seen as demanding more virtuous behavior from their fellow citizens as individuals. Which makes all their trash evidence of their hypocrisy.
The nature of the mistake here can be summed up with a simple data point: a 2008 study by an MIT professor and his class found that, in America, even the homeless and itinerant Buddhist have a per capita energy usage that’s twice the global average, and a comparative carbon footprint to match. (For the well-off in the U.S., it gets up around 10 times as big.) That’s because even homeless people and monks rely on the fabric of our society — the military, the police, public transit, electrical utilities, public buildings, roads, water, sewage — for their daily needs. And right now, that fabric is shot through with fossil fuels, energy inefficiency, waste, and unsustainable resource use. By contrast, even the well-off in Europe lead far more sustainable lives. That’s not because they’re any more virtuous, but because the social and economic fabric in which they are embedded is more sustainable.

This is a systemic problem, and will require systemic solutions. That means carbon taxes and cap-and-trade systems and environmental regulations and wholesale changes to how our economies calculate what is valuable.

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2014/09/23/3570840/climate-march-trash-news/

This is fundamentally true, which is why Red Staters are such suckers - Fox News and the Coke Brothers feed them anything that supports the myth of rugged individualism, then remove their childrens future out vof their back pocket in payment. Chuff is the classic rugged individual. He lives as far out in the boonies as is reasonable without making his monthly drive in to pick up his welfare cheque too onerous, upon his return he can convince himself of his omnipotent power with his gun collection all the while ignoring the increasingly shakey future he leaves for his kids and grand kids, which he is powerless to do anything about.

And anyone who aspires to something more? Drag them down to your cynical narcisistic level, of course.

And remember, no matter what you've always got yer guns
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 23, 2014 - 10:45am PT
Yup... one hell of a UN Climate Change Ambassador.


Kinda wonder if the next IPCC WG will be enjoying one of these while on break from their next AGW Policy Making Conference. They will assuredly do so with their new found Climate Change Ambassador/Leader.






Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC

Sep 23, 2014 - 10:42am PT
Speaking of spoiled brats, what does it take exactly to deliberately photo bomb and blow up every page?

You of course must be talking about your AGW freakoid jackazz buddy Fartwenchelmental with his colorful artwork and recent Spike Lee love fest postings.

Thanks for bringing that up BRUCEE KY and sharing your total disdain for it.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 23, 2014 - 11:12am PT
For the record Brucie I must correct a few illusions on your part.On the stephanie lane remo of a year ago I had Ron doing general labor. The old plumbing was in the exterior walls, we removed all of that in demo and had the licensed plumber run all new supply and waste, all within the envelope and none in exterior walls other than venting.I've never left town and enjoy a fine professional reputation in Alaska and to the lesser extent of work performed, in nevada. Intuition is a complete bullshet interpretation by you, who is too biased by socialist utopian ideals to dispassionately examine the evidence. Your severe alchoholism, although an impediment to you being able to grace these pages with the little potential remaing within you, is your personal problem. Our problem is your constant insertion here with repetitive psycho babble as delusional as your utopian ideals. As obnoxious as you are, you are still not as far gone as fortmental and his various additional avatars, all jerking off over multiple computer screens on the company dime.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 23, 2014 - 11:22am PT
I stand corrected Rick. Thanks for making the effort and like I said I was only guessing and my primary goal was to goad you into a response anyway.

Problem is, if I am now expected to believe you, I must trust your word. That requires trusting the word of a known incompetent and fraud, as evidenced here on this thread.

Yes, I realize the fact that you are incompetent and fraudulent in your climate knowledge and skill does not necesarrily translate to similar in your profession, but in terms of a measure of character and fully cognizant that the construction trades are rife with gypos and a contractors word is meaningless, forgive me if I laugh in your face.

How are the mine tailings sales going?

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
Are you going to provide the years for your 47% (or maybe 49%) Arctic sea ice loss claim?


Yes, as soon as you answer my question about relevance of the graphs you posted (I asked it about a week or 9 days ago, you never did directly answer the question).
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 01:55pm PT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 23, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
Are you going to provide the years for your 47% (or maybe 49%) Arctic sea ice loss claim?

Yes, as soon as you answer my question about why you posted your graphs (I asked it about a week or 9 days ago, you never did directly answer the question).

Which graphs?

Seems like every time I post a chart or graph, you're there to try and trip me up. The Antarctic sea ice chart was the latest bit of K-man silliness.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 23, 2014 - 01:58pm PT
Here's a post from Sept. 9th.

And speaking of waiting... I am still waiting for you to tell us why the graphs you post have any meaning with regards to climate change. Were you trying to make a point, and if so what was it? Or, were you just posting so you could watch us (well, mostly Ed) tear apart your post?

If you're referring to those graphs from last week, they support the no warming position.

I notice you keep harping on this one issue, while (conveniently ignoring the points I pressed you on. Typical K-man.

I've also explained how your effort to invalidate my trendline was BS.

Again, what do you think is the shortest time period to qualify as a relevant trend (regarding climate change)?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Sep 23, 2014 - 02:11pm PT
http://www.nationalreview.com//article/388595/robert-kennedy-jr-aspiring-tyrant-charles-c-w-cooke
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