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Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 28, 2014 - 06:55am PT
Ever heard of Richard Betts?

Credit: Wade Icey
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Aug 28, 2014 - 07:00am PT
K-man,

Thanks for keeping tabs.

Funny how you don't seem to have an issue with the untoward comments by like-minded posters.

It's not what's said, as much as who said it.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Aug 28, 2014 - 07:04am PT
Good one, Wade.

People down in Georgia come from near and far
To hear Richard Betts pickin' on that red guitar

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 28, 2014 - 07:08am PT
Funny how you don't seem to have an issue with the untoward comments by like-minded posters.

You mean their comments in response to you being condescending and disrespectful?
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Aug 28, 2014 - 07:12am PT
predictability is next to mediocrity.

When I post some obvious flame-bait... and the usual suspects take the fast train to bitchitown... they're demonstrating their mediocrity.

You know... I never thought about it that way.

But it makes sense.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:47am PT
When I post some obvious flame-bait...
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:52am PT
Ever heard of Richard Betts?
He works for the Met Office.


yes, indeed he does... every looked him up? or are you just channelling your blogsphere visits?

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/people/richard-betts
click on the link (under his picture): Publications by Richard Betts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Betts

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8451756.stm

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:59am PT
as for your comparison of data to model, can you even explain what it means?

where the data come from that appear on the plot,
and how the plot was made?

or do you consider all these details to be the "obscurity of scientific nomenclature" (like rick) and irrelevant to your discussion...

did you even look at the links to Science above (which you could probably read at your local library) talking about recent work on the North Atlantic?



let's take the graphic you poached from some unattributed web site as a lesson...

what parts of the graph illustrate the concept of "precision"

and which the concept of "accuracy"

obviously you do not know, but you could learn...
here's a quick tutorial for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accuracy_and_precision
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:04am PT



Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA

Aug 28, 2014 - 08:52am PT
Ever heard of Richard Betts?
He works for the Met Office.

yes, indeed he does... every looked him up? or are you just channelling your blogsphere visits?

http://www.metoffice.gov.uk/research/people/richard-betts
click on the link (under his picture): Publications by Richard Betts

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_A._Betts

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/8451756.stm

Whooosh!
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:13am PT
so what about accuracy, precision and the role they play in the statement that you posted about the "energy balance"?

how well do we do in "closing" the "energy balance"?

how well do we have to do?

Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:30am PT
Well boy howdy Ed. I thought you were done with this thread. And done with me, in particular.

Yet, here you are... firing off questions left and right.... just getting strung along like some half-witted hayseed.

One of these days, you'll figure it out.

Maybe.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:35am PT
you're not a "half-witted hayseed", Sketch, that characterization would be both insulting to hayseeds in general, and a gross over estimate of wits.

how well do we have to do?

you don't know, and you won't answer, and you especially have no idea why it matters...
but I'll be back tonight to provide a bit of an answer...
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:45am PT
you're not a "half-witted hayseed", Sketch, that characterization would be both insulting to hayseeds in general, and a gross over estimate of wits
+1
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Aug 28, 2014 - 10:00am PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA

Aug 28, 2014 - 09:35am PT
you're not a "half-witted hayseed", Sketch, that characterization would be both insulting to hayseeds in general, and a gross over estimate of wits.

how well do we have to do?

you don't know, and you won't answer, and you especially have no idea why it matters...
but I'll be back tonight to provide a bit of an answer...

Oh my!

Ed went with "I know you are, but what am I?"

Did you come up with that all by yourself?

So clever.

I look forward to your answer to "how well do we have to do?"
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Aug 28, 2014 - 11:29am PT
Warmist's agenda looks like they want to kill off humanity by reducing CO2!

Remember CO2 levels were near 4000ppm long ago when plants first developed.
Plants cannot live and die when CO2 levels go below about 200ppm.

Life on Earth has never been so close to extinction with such dangerously
low levels of CO2 in the air as todays 400ppm demonstrate.

How lucky are we that by burning fossil fuels and raising CO2 levels are actually saving plants and ourselves. Keeping the air well about the
'dead zone' of CO2 200ppm is all important.

800ppm would provide a safe buffer and green the planet nicely. These misguided Warmists need to stfu and stop trying to murder us.
Lurky.McLurkerson

Boulder climber
A State of Mind
Aug 28, 2014 - 02:22pm PT
All I see in here...

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Aug 28, 2014 - 02:24pm PT
Lookey McHumpersLeg strikes again!

DMT
Lurky.McLurkerson

Boulder climber
A State of Mind
Aug 28, 2014 - 02:25pm PT
Dingus McAirHumper,,,,,,,,,



shouldent you be spraying about smokin herb and radical 5.6 GU FA's?
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Aug 28, 2014 - 08:43pm PT
so how much energy is there that results in heating the Earth?

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 28, 2014 - 09:35pm PT
You've already posted Trenberths energy budget many times Ed. Perhaps you should consult it again for your desired answer ( or actually desired non answer) . If you guys would admit that just maybe cloud and ground albedo increases, Increased convection, and satellite observations of increased outgoing LW radiation, along with reduced solar output in some spectrums and indices balance without the need to rathole the missing heat, perhaps you wouldn't be in such denial of the present cooling.
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