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limpingcrab

Trad climber
the middle of CA
Sep 18, 2014 - 11:16pm PT
Fair enough. My comment wasn't climate change topic specific. I saw my pet peeve in the video and brought it up. I still think claiming there is a consensus or that "all" scientists believe something is a poor tool for an argument when someone is trying to prove that their view is the correct one (it's also usually not true). Just use simple, good old fashioned evidence. Crap, I brought it up again and can't help myself!!!

Sorry for the thread drift.


Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 19, 2014 - 04:35am PT
Always fun to watch the faithful kool-aid drinkers scurry about when someone challenges warmist dogma.

It doesn't matter that the "agitator" supports the science. If they don't embrace all aspects of the faith... 100% (97% won't do), several of you will set them straight.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Sep 19, 2014 - 04:47am PT
3% of climate scientists agree that there is no Global warming.

You got that going for you.

No "C" word.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Sep 19, 2014 - 07:28am PT
sure thing sketch. We are all perfectly aware of what constitutes "fun" for you and various other variations of sociopathic personalities. Its like the climate - we know its happening but without finding out why, we can't do much about it. However when we learn why something is happening - such as Machavellianism being the primary motivator in your pursuit of "fun" - then it becomes possible to separate that which is of value and that which is not.

Similarly we know that many people hold the idea of expert specialization and consensus decision making in contempt, but without knowing why we can't separate their Chuff from the Ed. If the opinion of the 3% is equal to the 97% then also equal is the opinion of anyone including someone as incompetently out of his element as Sketch.... which is why Sketch always steers the discusion to where he has some skill.

There is I think a reason that when Sarah Palin or Herman Cain or some other blithering idiot claims "Maverick" status that it strikes a cord in the heart of stooges. I mean if those idiots can plow their own furrow anywhere they chose, so can all the other idiots and nobody can stand being branded an idiot no matter how true, so what better way to deny fact than simply demand respect for any old opinion?

And thus was born Fox News!
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 19, 2014 - 07:45am PT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2014 - 08:06am PT
Norton, that looks like a vast majority, not "all" or complete agreement (consensus).


limpingcrab, I agree with you. When I hear "consensus," I cringe because I know what that word means. Same with "all."


But "vast majority" doesn't quite capture the incredibly lopsided number of scientists who believe that climate change is causes by none other than us.

How about this:
The massive, overwhelming, and mind-blggling majority of climate scientists believe ...
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:16am PT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2014 - 08:06am PT


How about this:
The massive, overwhelming, and mind-blggling majority of climate scientists believe ...

How about this..

The majority of Christians, 2.2 BILLION humans, currently believe that jesus christ is the son of God and that God exists.



Does that make that statement a correct, true and real fact?


Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm


Check out this, what I believe to be a bad to the bone C02 emitting mofo!!!



Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:16am PT
How about this:
The massive, overwhelming, and mind-blggling majority of climate scientists believe ...


yes, that seems a much better description than "consensus"

semantics are SO important in labeling overwhelming agreement...

wtf ?
Norton

Social climber
quitcherbellyachin
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:18am PT
2.2 BILLION humans currently believe that jesus christ is the son of God and that God exists.

Does that make that statement a correct, true and real fact?

the chief is right, billions of humans also believed the earth was flat

however, I don't understand the connection between mythology and scientific verification?
no way the chief would be tying to make them logically similar, he is too smart for that
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:19am PT
How about this..

The majority of Christians, 2.2 BILLION humans, currently believe that jesus christ is the son of God and that God exists.



Does that make that statement a correct, true and real fact?

Good point.

It would be good if folks inside christiandom fact checked their bullshit as much as science is fact checked for bullsh#t.

Not that it would shake the consensus of fairy tale believers.

DMT
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:22am PT
Not that it would shake the consensus of fairy tale believers

Well, up till very recently and for well over a 1800 plus years, that was not considered a fairy tale.


And for well over 2000 years all humans did believe that the world was flat.



Point... how long till this human concept is written off as merely a "fairy tale"?
FRUMY

Trad climber
Bishop,CA
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:22am PT
If the chief is so smart why doesn't he know much about what he likes --- Motorcycles.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2014 - 08:22am PT
The majority of Christians, 2.2 BILLION humans, currently believe that jesus christ is the son of God and that God exists.


There you go again The Chief, trying to equivalent religious dogma with scientific study.


Got any other nuggets that make yourself look like a fool?
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:24am PT
If the chief is so smart why doesn't he know much about what he likes --- Motorcycles.

Oh boy. The dude supposedly works with carbs for a couple of years and now he is an expert on, motorcycles?

And you ride a Harley Davidson....


And you are now going to make a factual (with backed up data) statement that renders Ducati a worthless motorcycle, Frumy?

Like every post on this assinine thread, it is only your close minded opinion.


There you go again The Chief, trying to equilateral religious dogma with scientific study.

There you go again KaveMAN dictating that your Scientific Dogma is greater in value than any religious dogma.

Who appointed you or anyone else as the individual that makes such determination?

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:25am PT
Well, up till very recently and for well over a 1800 plus years, that was not considered a fairy tale.

Right, by ignorant peasants. They still believe it.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:27am PT
And for well over 2000 years all humans did believe that the world was flat.

Well if we can a sphere out of a flat earth we can certainly get a god out of our science, too.

DMT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 19, 2014 - 08:28am PT
Like every post on this assinine thread, it is only your close minded opinion.


The Chief, don't tell me you think of yourself as open minded.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:30am PT
Nice DODGE KaveMAN!^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


To believe and then to know with 100% certainty are two completely different concepts of what is REAL to be the TRUTH.




Right, by ignorant peasants. They still believe it.

Here are two of many many examples of those, peasants:



Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:31am PT
But you are right, consensus in and of itself isn't the final answer.

Consensus can be quite wrong, something I learned well enough by studying the history of geology. Consensus gets overturned like exotic terrains, in that discipline.

I think you right to question consensus.

But Denier Science isn't the answer. Consensus is as consensus does... show them the way, bring the cows to water. They will come, if you can demonstrate you are right.

Science is ultimately self-correcting. Too bad fairy tales are not.

DMT
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Sep 19, 2014 - 08:33am PT
That bloke with the telescope didn't believe in that fairy tale bullsh#t. Consensus made him conform though. Which does make your point.

But you defending christianity is laughable anyway. Stop it, you're hurting my sides.

DMT
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