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The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Oct 16, 2014 - 08:36am PT
Hey MONO, 1998... NOT 1980.


Why is it soo hard for you to use that time frame???

Yet CO2 just keeps on going up and up and up....







Ur, um, except sea level rise is accelerating.

By how much?

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Oct 16, 2014 - 08:36am PT
welcome to forecasting Chuff. Unless like you we all have a crystal ball and a bag of chicken bones, we can only forecast in terms of probability.

Sketch can only determine a range of probability in managing to move out of his moms basement by the time he is 50, or even 60. Particularly considering his means of generating income - playing the stock market with skills gained by the Rick Sumner Self taught method.

There have been plenty of studies done on professional market traders that show 2 things:

The best performers tend toward decisions based on deliberation of fact. The worse performers tend toward intuitive hunches.

The other more interesting observation is that only a very few perform even marginally better than market Index rates. Thats right..... betting on the "consensus" performs better than gambling on outliers over the long run.

This is the prime reason that probability of moving up is not looking good for Sketch, no matter how he spins the bottle. His only chance in such a "wicked environment" is years of training, mentorship and a disciplined approach to taming intuitive decision making
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Oct 16, 2014 - 08:40am PT
The best performers tend toward decisions based on deliberation of fact

And that fact is that sea level rise on the LONG TERM TREND since 1880 is 9.1" over a time span of 134 years. Or, since 1950, 3.2 or so inches. Now that is fact.

So let's deliberate on them, facts in order to attain how long it will take to achieve the current doom and gloom forecast of 2-3 meters of sea level rise.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Oct 16, 2014 - 08:44am PT
I am not hiding shet. Just used that time frame just as you stated the following...

except sea level rise is accelerating


And you love hiding your consistent rhetoric of utilizing the LONG TERM TREND in order to substantiate your current bullshet rhetoric.


FACT: 3.2" of sea level rise from 1960 through 2010 (50 years).


Do the math to achieve a time frame forecast to attain 1 meter at that indicated rate of rise.

6 or so HUNDRED years....


Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Oct 16, 2014 - 08:50am PT
In one ear and out the other Chuff.

If you can't even speak English, you can't deliberate on anything written in that language.

Rick Sumner is in the same boat as you, athough he likes to pretend he is more sophisticated, but really at best his grasp of the language is as good as a Drunk and stoned Rob Ford

Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 16, 2014 - 08:51am PT
TFE.2, Figure 2: Compilation of paleo sea level data &#40;purple&#41;,...
TFE.2, Figure 2: Compilation of paleo sea level data (purple), tide gauge data (blue, red and green), altimeter data
(light blue), and central estimates and likely ranges for projections of global-mean sea level rise from the combination of CMIP5 and pro
Credit: IPCC AR5 WGI

from the Technical Summary of AR5
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Oct 16, 2014 - 09:01am PT
So which part of the AR5 sea level projections is realistic. And what is it based on, EDH?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Oct 16, 2014 - 09:04am PT
Frosty my money is on you to be the last to suffer a catastrophic meltdown.

Fools logic of a short term rise without significant variability constituting a trend doesn't wash. We had significant steric rise in response to the '98 super El Nino and and actual decrease in sea level in 2010 or 11 in response of a large drop in solar sw during the quiet sun period between cycles 23/24.

Eddy, good to see you didn't get Fryed along with dr. Craig. You are made of sterner stuff.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 16, 2014 - 09:10am PT
It's a good thing America still has a few smart people
http://apod.nasa.gov/apod/ap141016.html
cause there sure are a lot of idiots.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Oct 16, 2014 - 09:12am PT
Thats because you don't understand how to rate credibility.

What you are doing Sketch is clinging to your percieved entitlement of understanding. You think that you are entitled to your opinion - unearned as it is - simply because you can state it.

You havn't earned a thing. You are as bad an entitlement queen as any Cadallac driving Welfare mom.

The fact is, credibility is not determined by your understanding of technical interpretation. By insisting that it is demonstrates your lack of credibility, not theirs.

You have other means of estblishing credibility. Can you guess where that might be?
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Oct 16, 2014 - 09:21am PT
Hey Sketch, they just can't stand to see that 12 years plus of reality is not looking good for their ballgame.


Everyone of the data reporters are clearly on the DECLINE trend. DOWN they are going...


The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Oct 16, 2014 - 09:25am PT
Same as yours MONO! Same as yours.


Hmmmmm!





Yet...




Temps are nose diving across the board. Yet C02 is still going up and up and up....



Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC

Oct 16, 2014 - 09:12am PT
Thats because you don't understand how to rate credibility.


Thanks for the laugh Brucee KY!!




All yours Sketch, gotta go burn some metal and do my share of emitting toxins into the atmosphere today. Have fun with these SHEEP!!!


BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Oct 16, 2014 - 10:29am PT
Warmists making their weekly terrorist pronouncements
of doom are probably the same saying don't worry about ebola
as they take another bite of imported monkey jerkey.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Oct 16, 2014 - 10:31am PT
why are you guys trying to teach idiots?

it's hopeless

they haven't got the brainpower

might as well talk to a 5 year old
raymond phule

climber
Oct 16, 2014 - 10:40am PT

Why is your scale valid and mine not?

You could start with taking a basic course in statistics and you might understand why. (but you should of course start with a course about learning to read graphs).
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Oct 16, 2014 - 10:45am PT
The truth is that you warmists are trying to kill the human race.

A warmer planet would benefit civilization if it ever happens.
Still waiting.

More CO2 has equaled bigger crop harvests. More food is
a good thing for a growing population.
Larry Nelson

Social climber
Oct 16, 2014 - 10:55am PT
Credit: Larry Nelson
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded a$#hat Sheep
Oct 16, 2014 - 11:02am PT
In the meantime, real shet that you all should be preparing for like the one below, is ignored.

That is until you all get hit personally with it.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/scientist-issues-dire-earthquake-warning-163029444.html


The next big one in either LA or the BAY AREA will totally remove any concern on your part regarding CC.

But, I would not put past any of you AGW Sheep to blame any major future quake on, wait, here it is.. you guessed it, Anthro induced Global Warming.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Oct 16, 2014 - 11:08am PT
The truth is that you warmists are trying to kill the human race.

Now that's a new angle.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Oct 16, 2014 - 12:22pm PT
So which part of the AR5 sea level projections is realistic. And what is it based on, EDH?

you can read the AR5 Technical Summary yourself, The Chief

the plot shows the baseline sea level rise back to 1700, and the departure of the rise in the industrial period. If you don't accept that (which is determined by the data) then you are unlikely to accept the methods of the forecast.

But if you were even to do a straight line projection of the current trend, you'd see that the sea level is rising over the "recent" past (before the 1850's).

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