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Sketch

Trad climber
Not Skip T
Aug 6, 2014 - 04:22pm PT
Come on, Mono... quit pretending there's no pause.

Global warming 'pause' since 1998 reflects natural fluctuation

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2014/07/140721181805.htm
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 6, 2014 - 04:24pm PT
LOL, sketch. Notice the 'pause' is in single quotes.

It's the 'pause' that's not a pause.



Looks like warming here too, AndyMan.

Sketch

Trad climber
Not Skip T
Aug 6, 2014 - 04:29pm PT
Did you ever explain emissions consistent with Scenario A produced Scenario D forcings?

Here's a repost to help you out.

Scenario D: (Accelerated Policies Scenario) assumes that a
rapid shift to renewable energies and safe nuclear energy
takes place eariy in the next century, stringent emission
controls in industrial countries and moderate growth of
emissions in developing countries. This scenario, which
assumes carbon dioxide emissions are reduced to 50% of
1985 levels, stabilizes equivalent carbon dioxide
concentrations at about twice the pre-industrial levels towards
the end of the next century.

A rapid shift to renewable energies and safe nuclear energy
takes place eariy in the next century

Stringent emission controls in industrial countries

Moderate growth of emissions in developing countries



Emissions increase:

1990-1999 1%/yr.
2003-2012 2.7%/yr.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Aug 6, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
Where's the radiative forcing data to support scenario A, Sketch?

Have you learned to read the graphs yet?

Here's a refresher.

Credit: monolith
Sketch

Trad climber
Not Skip T
Aug 6, 2014 - 04:41pm PT
Yes. Pause.

Two metrics - slightly up.
One metric - flat
One metric - down

Wood For Trees composite - down

Sketch

Trad climber
Not Skip T
Aug 6, 2014 - 04:44pm PT
Where's the radiative forcing data to support scenario A, Sketch?

Have you learned to read the graphs yet?

Here's a refresher.

Nice bait and switch.

The point here is the projected forcings for the scenarios closest to what occurred were significantly higher than the measured forcings.

Can you explain how the emissions we've experienced since 1990 are consistent with scenario D?
Sketch

Trad climber
Not Skip T
Aug 6, 2014 - 05:06pm PT
Here's fun little gif on deep ocean temperature coverage. It get's interesting after 2000.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Aug 6, 2014 - 05:23pm PT
Go out on a limb Sketch. Tell us why its interesting.

after that tell us the basis for your conclusion here:

So, he doesn't go near the IPCC models. He simply has the same prediction, a century from now.

This guy sounds more an ideologue than an objective researcher.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Aug 6, 2014 - 06:11pm PT
Just to be clear Sketch (in case you are wondering) I ask only because I doubt you'd recognize a "objective researcher" even if one hit you in the face with a twenty pound tuna

TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 6, 2014 - 07:36pm PT
http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/08/01/below-average-temperatures-leave-some-with-summertime-sadness/




http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/08/06/if-all-you-see-1213/
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2014 - 07:48am PT
Speaking of weather events:

http://www.livescience.com/45599-hotter-and-drier-texas-real-life-climate-change-stories-video.html


"In 2011, many places in Texas ans Oklahoma experienced over 100 days over 100 degrees F"






And then there's this:


link: Australia’s 2014 Heat Wave Picks Up Where 2013 Left Off








And the hits just keep on coming:

http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/sotc/global/2014/6

Global Highlights

    The combined average temperature over global land and ocean surfaces for June 2014 was the highest on record for the month, at 0.72°C (1.30°F) above the 20th century average of 15.5°C (59.9°F).

    The global land surface temperature was 0.95°C (1.71°F) above the 20th century average of 13.3°C (55.9°F), the seventh highest for June on record.

    For the ocean, the June global sea surface temperature was 0.64°C (1.15°F) above the 20th century average of 16.4°C (61.5°F), the highest for June on record and the highest departure from average for any month.

    The combined global land and ocean average surface temperature for the January–June period (year-to-date) was 0.67°C (1.21°F) above the 20th century average of 13.5°C (56.3°F), tying with 2002 as the third warmest such period on record.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not Skip T
Aug 7, 2014 - 08:09am PT
Hey K-man,

What distinguishes weather from climate?
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Aug 7, 2014 - 10:50am PT
Your bogus monthly records are not in line with UAH or RSS Kelly. Your propaganda map of the U.S. fails to mention that the highs of the third and fourth were supplanted by unseasonable cool in large swaths of the same map on the fifth and sixth. But thats not consistent with the propagands stream, now is it Kelly?

Some of you prolific low brow posters, first among you Bruce, never cease to amaze me with your endless regurgatations of your idiotic programming. Carry on, babble on dummies.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Aug 7, 2014 - 04:39pm PT
Jingy

climber
Somewhere out there
Aug 7, 2014 - 04:50pm PT


 climate change deniers are fools... your inaction will be thanked at some point in the future...

Thanks for your lack of input in your lifetime!!!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 7, 2014 - 05:24pm PT
http://www.cfact.org/2014/08/07/british-antartctic-survey-trapped-without-power-during-record-cold-55-4-c/
BLUEBLOCR

Social climber
joshua tree
Aug 7, 2014 - 05:33pm PT

climate change deniers are fools... your inaction will be thanked at some point in the future...

Do you think that "deniers" are any less of an environmental caretaker as you?

You don't have to read scientific graphs to be conscious of the environment.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
Terence Wilson greeneck alleghenys,ny,
Aug 7, 2014 - 05:39pm PT
Do you think that "deniers" are any less of an environmental caretaker as you?


You bet.

Have YOU considered anybody but yourself?

Let's see,maybe future generations or possibly this one?
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Aug 7, 2014 - 05:46pm PT

Satellite instruments began uniformly measuring temperatures throughout the Earth’s lower atmosphere in 1979. Climate scientists overseeing these NASA satellite instruments produced the chart below showing the following temperature trends:

a plateau of temperatures, with absolutely no warming, from 1979 through 1997
a large temperature spike in 1998
a return to the 1979-1997 mean in 1999-2000
a modest escalation of temperatures in 2001
an elevated plateau of essentially flat temperatures from 2002-2014




IPCC adherents claim short-term variance is masking longer-term climate trends. According to this line of reasoning, the 35 years since 1979 are simply not long enough to form meaningful conclusions about the longer-term pace of global warming. This line of argument is unpersuasive for two important reasons: First, the admittedly less reliable ground-based mercury temperature readings from the mid-1940s through the late 1970s reported global cooling during the three decades immediately prior to the satellite era. Accordingly, the time period for which real-world temperatures are not rising nearly as rapidly as IPCC predictions is now not just 35 years, but approximately 70 years. Second, and even ignoring the 1940s-1970s global cooling, for global temperatures to meet IPCC’s predicted 2.4 degree rise by late this century, global temperatures must immediately – and that means immediately – begin rising at a sustained 0.30 degrees Celsius per decade. That has never come close to occurring during our modern warm period, and the ongoing global warming pause suggests that is unlikely to begin happening any time in the foreseeable future, either.

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/08/07/if-all-you-see-1214/
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Aug 7, 2014 - 05:52pm PT
Hey K-man,

What distinguishes weather from climate?



Sketch, are you asking me to test my knowledge, or are you asking because after all this time you still don't know?





And I suppose your answer to that question will determine for me whether you are a jackass or a dumbass.







(BTW, my last post was in response to TGT's post on the weather.)
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