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The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 4, 2014 - 08:55am PT
But what do they know


Now you are going to insist that Hollywood and the world's movie industry is the gospel of truth.

Great KMAN!


Keep posting KMAN.



Just goes to prove how much of a sheep you truly are.


The "Godfather" won more "awards" thus we must believe it is the truth.


http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0068646/awards


Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:00am PT
Hey Sketch, can you explain why for over 1000 data points your trend lines only get close to the data for about 50?

Doesn't sound like a very "hi fidelity" trend...

The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:03am PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^ Another career vested poster....^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:05am PT
my career is ending, The Chief and I have absolutely nothing vested professionally, monetary or otherwise, in climate science.

You are making your usual loud, vulgar noises again. As befits your type.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:09am PT
Who said "Climate Science"? I am talking about CC/AGW in general. ED, you currently work and have done so since the 90's, for the DOE. Yes?

https://www-pls.llnl.gov/?url=about_pls-scientific_staff-hartouni_e



http://energy.gov/science-innovation/climate-change




To even state that your career with the DOE of late had nothing to do with AGW/CC is as false as the KMAN's notion that Al Gore's movie was well made.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:12am PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA

Sep 4, 2014 - 09:00am PT
Hey Sketch, can you explain why for over 1000 data points your trend lines only get close to the data for about 50?

Yes.

Does it matter that "for over 1000 data points your trend lines only get close to the data for about 50"?

If so, why?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 09:15am PT
So much has been said here from different view points that I now believe this thread only has a goal of who gets the last word.


Actually, quite a few folks post here with the purpose of showing the latest climate science findings and other thoughts about the state of affairs. For example, I posted a link about a forward-thinking book that just came out, and one that addresses climate change and how our capitalistic model is one of the root causes.


The trouble is, the thread gets dragged into the gutter by people who are against these things. They scream loudly, and bring the discussion down to their level.

For example, we have climate scientists, and others, who can make an intelligent post on the latest discoveries. Then we have people, who couldn't understand a scientific paper if Mother Goose herself read it to them, critique their posts.

It's as if they are a skipping record, forever playing an out-of-tune chorus that you can't get out of your ear.

It's a crazy circle. But there's a lot of good information to discover here, if you can possibly clear out the noise.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:23am PT
"My career is ending". Perhaps so, but you have political ambitions. Unfortunately, your platform doesn't play well beyond the confines of the gay area. Mayor of Supertopo?

Question to you guys: what scientist, famous to posters here, can we attribute the following statement to-" The anthropogenic signal is rather weak compared to the range of natural variability".
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 09:25am PT
Now you are going to insist that Hollywood and the world's movie industry is the gospel of truth.


No, I'm simply showing that An Inconvenient Truth was believed by many in the movie industry to be a film that was well crafted. It's my proof that the movie was a well-made film.


You, as usual, are attempting to divert the topic.


But enough of this, your foolish banter bores me.
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:25am PT
To even state that your career with the DOE of late had nothing to do with AGW/CC is as false as the KMAN's notion that Al Gore's movie was well made.

I'm not sure what the two have to do with one another... the movie and DOE, but the things I have worked on during my work as a contractor to the DOE had nothing to do with climate change.

Your assertion is incorrect. But I'm sure you'll go on blowing on that...



Sketch, you seem to think that your straight line trends have some relevance, yet they are a poor representation of the data, as is easily seen by eye... can you support why the "straight line trend" should be considered relevant to the discussion?

Obviously, as I have shown time and again, if you extrapolate your straight lines back to 1980 they do not represent the data at all. Having failed that, why should you assume that extrapolating them into the future would be a valid representation of the temperatures?



rick, I envy you your rich fantasy life, it would be nice to live in a made up world, especially the one you have imagined...

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:30am PT
Get out of that damn city Ed. If you do, you might just discover that you had been living amongst a man made nightmare all along. Can I interest you in a fractional ownership position overlooking a canary in a coal mine?
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:40am PT
Sketch, you seem to think that your straight line trends have some relevance, yet they are a poor representation of the data, as is easily seen by eye... can you support why the "straight line trend" should be considered relevant to the discussion?

Obviously, as I have shown time and again, if you extrapolate your straight lines back to 1980 they do not represent the data at all. Having failed that, why should you assume that extrapolating them into the future would be a valid representation of the temperatures?

Your posts always deliver. Between your bogus (read: dumb) inferences and your efforts to talk over laypersons' head, you regularly crack me up.

We should rename this thread "Smart people being stupid".
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 4, 2014 - 09:44am PT
Your assertion is incorrect.


So EDH, you are now going to insist that your work of late (the past couple of years) at Livermore, a contractor of the DOE btw, had absolutely NOTHING to do with nor was profoundly motivated by the recent specific EPA or any other gov't regs/initiatives regarding CC/AGW?
new world order2

climber
Sep 4, 2014 - 10:02am PT
I'd just like Ed to (please) comment on my "assertion" that chemtrails are one result of geo-engineering.

Ed?

Oh look! There's a jet spraying chemicals into the atmosphere! <br/>
Lets ...
Oh look! There's a jet spraying chemicals into the atmosphere!
Lets see now...a jet spraying chemicals into the atmosphere would leave what in it's wake? Hmmmm...I dunno! Chemtrails? Nooooo....conspiracy theory!
Credit: new world order2
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 10:24am PT
Sketch, you seem to think that your straight line trends have some relevance, yet they are a poor representation of the data, as is easily seen by eye... can you support why the "straight line trend" should be considered relevant to the discussion?

Obviously, as I have shown time and again, if you extrapolate your straight lines back to 1980 they do not represent the data at all. Having failed that, why should you assume that extrapolating them into the future would be a valid representation of the temperatures?

Your posts always deliver. Between your bogus (read: dumb) inferences and your efforts to talk over laypersons' head, you regularly crack me up.

Sketch showing that he can't understand what Ed writes, even when Ed boils it down to the simplest of terms.

Now that is a crack up.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Sep 4, 2014 - 10:35am PT
Sketch showing that he can't understand what Ed writes, even when Ed boils it down to the simplest of terms.
All the more reason to completely ignore him.
There is no point in rebutting these clowns' false science posts.
Ignore them, and get on with the discussion of how we deal with the situation.
Sketch

Trad climber
Not FortMental
Sep 4, 2014 - 10:46am PT
Sketch showing that he can't understand what Ed writes.

Okay, Mr. Know-it-all... see if you can back up:
I have shown time and again, if you extrapolate your straight lines back to 1980 they do not represent the data at all.

Let's see (just) two examples of Ed proving what he claimed.

Since you're so smart, tell us why his point is invalid.

why should you assume that extrapolating them into the future would be a valid representation of the temperatures?

Please show where I assumed any of ^this^.

I look forward to reading more classic K-man shuck-n-jive backpedaling. It's always good for a laugh.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 10:55am PT
Since you're so smart, tell us why his point is invalid.
    Sketch


His point is valid.

Does that help?


But, perhaps you can further the discussion by explaining why you think Ed's point is not valid. I think that onus is on you.

Maybe you can start by explaining why your trend lines have any relevance to our discussion. Ed takes them apart. Can you provide for why they are worthwhile?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Sep 4, 2014 - 11:26am PT
Sketch, so quick to jump to name calling.


So quick to run away when asked to defend his attacks.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all you angry blinded asshat Sheep
Sep 4, 2014 - 11:32am PT
There is no point in rebutting these clowns questioning our climate science backed posts. The Climate Science dictates the truth and is the last word on this issue. It is the indisputable gospel.

Fixed it for ya Malnuts.


No, I'm simply showing that An Inconvenient Truth was believed by many in the movie industry to be a film that was well crafted.

As were tens of 1000's of other films in Hollywood's entertainment money making business past. They were all strictly produced and shown for one reason... entertainment.

I will give you credit on that one... the entertainment part. Gore's movie sure was a good comedy and did entertain millions with his well crafted humor.
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