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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:28pm PT
But wonder about this: Why do climate scientists now feel that they must be the ones selling their results?

Because the existing sales crew should be fired.

You need to understand; everybody's selling something; product, vision, dire warnings, scientific results, dreams... there's no shame it it. Its how the world works.

Want some grant money? Start selling.... Want someone to take note of your findings? Start selling... you know those blood work companies like Quest have large sales forces, right? W

DMT
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 6, 2015 - 01:29pm PT
Want to see your kids have a good life? Start selling.
Yes, exactly.



Fire the sales team. I like that one ;-)
raymond phule

climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:29pm PT

Ah, NO!

On the contrary. CC and sudden temp & C02 rises have come and gone long before any Coal fired PP or SUV showed up.

but this climate behavior involve humans burning fossil fuels. You seems to talk about other climate behaviors.

Everyone above the age of 5 knows that the climate has changed in the past but this really hasn't much to do with what happens today.

Our behavior with burning fossil fuels, using cfcs, leaded gasoline and a lot of other forms of pollutions that change the environment just don't get a good things because environment catastrophes has happened in the past for other reasons.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
Maestro, Ecosystem Ministry, Fatcrackistan
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:30pm PT
Want to see your kids have a good life? Start selling.
Yes, exactly.

Yes now you are getting it, this IS exactly right.

DMT
The Chief

climber
RFLMAO here on the Taco
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:32pm PT
but this climate behavior involve humans burning fossil fuels

How much of humans are involved? You nor any of the AGW science truly and thoroughly knows for sure.



Our behavior with burning fossil fuels, using cfcs, leaded gasoline and a lot of other forms of pollutions that change the environment just don't get a good things because environment catastrophes has happened in the past for other reasons

Yup. And that was the agenda that was working in the past (70-80's). Clean up the Air, Water etc. I concur.

But don't insist on this new AGW theory of the end of word if 2degs C is passed.



Oh, and I love this BS about FF's/Oil running out. Amazing how there is such an abundance/surplus of it today that they can't sell it fast enough.


Brent Crude dropped down again today to below $50. It is forecasted to continue to plummet. Some speculators are suggesting it will drop well into the $30 dollar range by this Summer.
raymond phule

climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:40pm PT

How much of humans are involved? You nor any of the AGW science truly and thoroughly knows for sure.

The scientist know it sure enough.


Yup. And that was the agenda that was working in the past. Clean up the Air, Water etc.

But don't insist on this new theory of the end of word if 2degs C is past.

I don't really understand what you are saying.

Do you think that we should try to be nice to the environment even though catastrophes has happened without human interactions in the past?
The Chief

climber
RFLMAO here on the Taco
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:45pm PT
The scientist know it sure enough.

They know what? How much? Please post where they say how much with proof. They do not know how much with any certainty.


What caused the equal spike in temps/C02 at the beginning of the last century equal to the current one if only 1/10th of the humans and emissions were existent?
raymond phule

climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:50pm PT
You could read the ipcc report.
The Chief

climber
RFLMAO here on the Taco
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:52pm PT
Which IPCC report? Do you even know how many IPCC reports there are?

The latest doesn't specify a percentage with any certainty. Nor do any of the other dozen or more reports. Not one.

But do keep repeating the rhetoric that you don't even know is true or false or whatever.

Just parroting.


And Phule, do answer the question:

What caused the equal spike in temps/C02 at the beginning of the last century (1910-1940) equal to the current one if only 1/10th of the humans and their emissions were existent?
raymond phule

climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 01:55pm PT

Which IPCC report? Do you even know how many IPCC reports there are?

Difficult question... I guess that the latest one is a good start.

The latest doesn't specify a percentage.

LOL, I guess that you should try to read it before writing about on the internet.
raymond phule

climber
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:00pm PT

Which IPCC report? Do you even know how many IPCC reports there are?

The latest doesn't specify a percentage with any certainty. Nor do any of the other dozen or more reports. Not one.

But do keep repeating the rhetoric that you don't even know is true or false or whatever.

Just parroting.


And Phule, do answer the question:

What caused the equal spike in temps/C02 at the beginning of the last century (1910-1940) equal to the current one if only 1/10th of the humans and their emissions were existent?

Why do some people add to their posts all the time. I just found it frustrating that seeing a new post after you have answered a post.


The latest doesn't specify a percentage with any certainty. Nor do any of the other dozen or more reports. Not one.

Please read the reports.


But do keep repeating the rhetoric that you don't even know is true or false or whatever.

Just parroting.

??????????
The Chief

climber
RFLMAO here on the Taco
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:05pm PT
I have. Obviously you haven't as you just admitted you do not know which report indicates anything of sorts.

Nice try.

Nothing in the latest report that states anything about percentages that human emissions have played in the C02 levels. Nothing.


I see you can not answer the question either:

What caused the equal spike in temps/C02 at the beginning of the last century (1910-1940) equal to the current one if only 1/10th of the humans and emissions were existent?
Splater

climber
Grey Matter
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:07pm PT
Raymond,
your mistake is attempting to have a rational discussion with someone who is incapable of that goal.
The Chief

climber
RFLMAO here on the Taco
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:08pm PT
Back to the personal attacking. Right on cue.


You can't substantiate your bullshet claims so resort to the personal attacking.


Nice splater.


Great how even some of your "AGW BROS" here splater are doing the same to DMT for his posts on this matter.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:10pm PT
Look out the kitchen window of my cabin in the foothills of the Talkeetna mountains. That glacier you see fifteen hundred feet below and two miles distant drains a major icefield in the Chugach Range. The terminal moraine within a few hundred yards of the glaciers end has fifty year old trees growing on it. I'll believe we have some significant warming if and when I see any appreciable recession. BTW, im selling quarters shares for 95k- year round road and airstrip access, 3 bdrms, 2 baths, fully furnished, seven acres with abundant recreational opportunities in near vicinity. 1.5 hours from Anchorage international airport.
Credit: rick sumner
The Chief

climber
RFLMAO here on the Taco
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:21pm PT
Nice view Rick. Almost as good as mine!

rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:46pm PT
Nice Chief. Heres looking out a few more windows.[photo[photo
Credit: rick sumner
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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:52pm PT
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Credit: rick sumner
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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:53pm PT
Credit: rick sumner
The Chief

climber
RFLMAO here on the Taco
Jan 6, 2015 - 02:57pm PT
Hey wait a minute!!! Is that snow on them hills and on the ground?? WTF??

According Brucee KY and Malnuts, it's dry as a bone up there in AK.

AH!! Nice photoshopping.
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