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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:12am PT
New from Monckton, for Ed 2.9.

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/03/18/the-one-sided-conversation

raymond phule

climber
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:24am PT

For the past 420,000 years, absolute mean global surface temperature has varied by little more than 1% from the long-run average. It is very difficult to warm the world.

That's nice especially since the climate has been so constant over those years. What difference does a km of ice really make?

Using percent is also usefull because it can give the best answer by choosing the right unit.
raymond phule

climber
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:44am PT

Fact 8 follows. The equation by which models represent mutual amplification of the feedbacks they take as net-positive comes from electronic circuitry, where at a loop gain of unity the voltage transitions instantly from the positive to the negative rail.

However, this singularity has no physical equivalent in the climate. Accordingly, a damping term is required, to allow not only for the fact that positive feedbacks such as the water-vapour feedback cannot, as voltage can, suddenly reverse their effect when the loop gain exceeds 1

I am sure that rick became very excited when he read that.

I don't really understand what is written but I really doubt that it makes sense or is truth.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Mar 18, 2014 - 10:03am PT

http://www.acer-acre.ca/resources/climate-change-in-context/the-presentrecent-past/ontario-great-lakes-region/scientific-evidence/recent-trends-in-temperatureprecipitation
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Mar 18, 2014 - 07:13pm PT
Ed I'm going to beat Rick to the punch and point out the obvious....


Canada is communist.


There is an easy way to test this. Note that everything in Canada above 50 north is steadily warming. Yet as Rick knows, Alaska has been cooling.

Alaska is fuking America man - the total bomb, utterly righteous regardless of meth and suicide rates and is consequently blessed by gods own steady consistent proper temperatures.

Canada is a socialist parasite without even the class to support its host's righteousness, thus is cursed by the Satan spawn of UN inspired commie global warming. This only happens in the worst shitholes of the planet like New York, deservedly by gods standards.

Now if at any time Canada or any other shithole would get in righteous line all that global warming poofs away and dinosaurs walk with the lambs, just like Texas and Wassila.
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Mar 18, 2014 - 07:25pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/03/18/if-all-you-see-1072/
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Mar 18, 2014 - 07:44pm PT
Goddamnit Ed, we're old guys with failing eyesight. Can you darken the graphics up somewhat since it is hard to determine the color coded seasons? Apart from this, the information you convey is unspectacular, as one would expect from a commie shethole nation (except parts of upper B.C. and Alberta). As you have already noticed Edward, no one even gave a damn when you posted your alarmist propaganda this am, but at least Phule jumped all over the Monckton factual piece.This should tell you that the populace, even here on supertopo, are desensitized to this b.s. See Ak's temp trends in the link below. I might also add that the state is socialist-just read it's constitution, but pocketbook issues trumps alarmist propaganda.

http://climate.gi.alaska.edu/ClimTrends/Change/TempChange.html

new world order2

climber
Mar 18, 2014 - 08:13pm PT
maybe Ed can explain what climate engineering has to do with climate too...

http://www.lwec.org.uk/sites/default/files/Geoengineering%20meeting_Matthew%20Watson.pdf

WP2
-
delivery

Putting particles into the stratosphere (above 20 km)
appears to be the cheapest, most effective option that
can cool the earth quickly by ~ 2 degrees (Royal Society
Report, 2009).

Getting 1 to 10 million + tonnes pa particles to that
altitude is very challenging.

Main options considered are:

High performance military jets, ~ 1 million flights pa

Global array of weather balloons ~ 40 million flights pa

Pumping through pipes held aloft by large balloons,
~ 4 balloons of 280 m diameter




http://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/
High Fructose Corn Spirit

Gym climber
Mar 18, 2014 - 09:08pm PT


Politicians discussing global warming.
dave729

Trad climber
Western America
Mar 18, 2014 - 09:29pm PT
Don't all you global warming nutcakes know you are making terrorist threats? According to the patriot act its a felony to make statements designed to instill terror. Good thing the NSA is recording it all.
Hope the mass arrests begin soon!


raymond phule

climber
Mar 19, 2014 - 12:51am PT
I understand that rick et al. like monkton. Here is his own answer when I asked him to explain the gibberish.

"The snarkily hemionymous “Raymond” sneers that a point I had made in the head posting about temperature feedbacks is “gibberish”. If “Raymond” considers that something is wrong with what I had said, let him say what is wrong and why. If he does not understand what I said, he has no basis for alleging that it was “gibberish”. A more grown-up approach is expected here,"

Nice to have grown up experts like lord monckton.

I am not even sure where to start pick about a "gibberish fact" when nothing make sense.



Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 19, 2014 - 05:13am PT


I don't get it.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Mar 19, 2014 - 06:22am PT
Credit: wilbeer

Well,Look at it this way.
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Mar 19, 2014 - 07:31am PT
At this late stage, if you are still denying the science,
you're an asshole.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:09am PT


RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v03_3.txt
#
#Time series (rss) from 1979 to 2014.17
#Selected data from 1979
#Selected data up to 1993
#Least squares trend line; slope = 0.00326717 per year
1979 -0.0775495
1993 -0.0318092
#Data ends
#Number of samples: 2
#Mean: -0.0546793

#--------------------------------------------

#
# RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v03_3.txt
#
#Time series (rss) from 1979 to 2014.17
#Selected data from 1993
#Selected data up to 1999
#Least squares trend line; slope = 0.0974972 per year
1993 -0.16054
1999 0.424443
#Data ends
#Number of samples: 2
#Mean: 0.131951
#--------------------------------------------

#
#File: RSS_Monthly_MSU_AMSU_Channel_TLT_Anomalies_Land_and_Ocean_v03_3.txt
#
#Time series (rss) from 1979 to 2014.17
#Selected data from 1999
#Selected data up to 2014
#Least squares trend line; slope = 0.00270123 per year
1999 0.205481
2014 0.246
#Data ends
#Number of samples: 2
#Mean: 0.22574
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Nearly all of the warming of the last 35 years (the satellite era) occurred in a six year period.

Hmm.
Ron Anderson

Trad climber
Relic MilkEye and grandpoobah of HBRKRNH
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:15am PT
Good morning from a non warming 26 degrees at the Moundhouse.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:20am PT


raymond phule

climber
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:32am PT
So Sketch has found out that trend lines over short time intervals can give fun results.

Your next plot could fit 3-4 new lines starting at a low level and stop at a high level.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:55am PT
It's interesting that atmospheric CO2 levels have been increasing at a constant level, while most of the warming (during the satellite era) has occurred in a single six year period.

Reilly

Mountain climber
The Other Monrovia- CA
Mar 19, 2014 - 08:57am PT
Sketch, if I increase the revs of my Lambo at a constant rate the engine
temps will increase exponentially. I call that my GBW mobile lab.
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