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justin01
Trad climber
sacramento
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Your guy's endurance is impressive...
I think this thread should be broken into two halves. Bullsh#t, and point counterpoint.
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justin01
Trad climber
sacramento
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Here is an idea that I have been mulling...
Even if AGW were true and verifiable (a big if). The mitigation schemes seem beyond asinine. If the UN can not a bring about world peace from the platform that war is bad (something we can all agree on, unlike AWG), then how are we going to bring about world wide carbon emissions reduction. Reducing carbon emissions seems harder than bringing about world peace. At some point, it does't matter what the science says, because the solution is regulatorily unattainable, it is not worth the breath of the political windbags pushing it.
Maybe I am being overly pessimistic, but it just seems so infeasible on the face of it. Kyoto treaty on crack...give me a break.
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rottingjohnny
Sport climber
mammoth lakes ca
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The fact that insurance companies are paying close attention to climate change research should be proof enough to the deniers as premiums continue to rise with the bizarre weather patterns and accompanying damage...
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Sorry RJ, that's faulty reasoning.
That the insurance companies are paying attention is proof of nothing.
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k-man
Gym climber
SCruz
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Topic Author's Reply - Jul 7, 2011 - 12:38pm PT
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If the UN can not a bring about world peace from the platform that war is bad (something we can all agree on, unlike AWG) ...
Faulty premise. There are obviously LOTS of folks who do not believe that war is bad. And many of those people have the power to make the decision on whether or not to shoot.
In other news, I just noticed that I spelled Keith Moon's name wrong in my OP (I corrected it in a down beat). Oh, the shame I am feeling.
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Norton
Social climber
the Wastelands
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Same logic as: Why can't we cure the common cold if we can go to the moon?
Because they are different things maybe?
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justin01
Trad climber
sacramento
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Bringing about world peace and reducing emissions are using the same construct to limit/end the problem (The UN, EU, NATO, or like organization). There is a lot of talk and resolution. Antiviral research has little or nothing to do with politics, treaties, and tariffs. People who see the benefit in taking up arms are surely outnumbered by those who see the benefit in burning limitless FF’s. Same strategy, but much more difficult to achieve it would seem.
I do not think it is a non sequitur at all, same players, same strategy, different cause.
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Lennox
climber
just southwest of the center of the universe
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Here is a clue though.... SERE.
My dad went through something called Survival, Evasion, Resistance, and Escape training back in 1970, him being an O-2 pilot in Vietnam.
But in your case The Chief it must stand for Survive (like a cockroach) through Evasiveness, being Resistant (to logic), and Escapism (into a fantasy world of your own making).
Or maybe you're talking about the word sere rather than the acronym. In that case, the clue is that your brain has dried up and withered?
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dirtbag
climber
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My partner decided it a no go. TSers brewing up bad.
Yeah, we know, you missed your little yellow bus again.
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dirtbag
climber
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God I pray more would come to the Taco and participate in this thread.
I pray that you and KKKorniss can't reproduce.
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dirtbag
climber
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Chief and KKKorniss. I'm not sure which one is on the bottom...
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corniss chopper
climber
breaking the speed of gravity
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dirtbag - not a very strong rebuttal and a repeat (although still worth
showing)
Where are your visuals? Maybe some pics of dried up lakes? Or a thermometer
reading 0.2 degrees higher than it should be?
Or maybe the Phoenix dust storm with an appropriate AGW caption would go further than dog sex for your side of the debate?
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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What if our response to AGW causes a billion people to starve to death?
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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We don't have purely profit driven capitalism. For the most part we have highly regulated capitalism.
And in what way has capitalism starved a billion people to death?
And, instead of capitalism, what would you prefer?
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Most of the proposed "solutions" to the problems created by AGW and other evils associated with capitalism seem to involve making the world a better whiter place for wealthy people at the expense of people living very marginal lives.
Wes, what do you propose? It's easy to complain. Offer some solutions that work.
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Understood. You just want to bitch online ad infinitum. Another luxury afforded you by cheap fossil fuel energy. :-)
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Too funny Wes.
Ok. No solutions from you.
I too grow weary, but of people who over estimate their intelligence.
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Dropline
Mountain climber
Somewhere Up There
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Self doubt is one hallmark of intelligence. Where is yours Wes?
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