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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 25, 2014 - 09:54am PT
On second thought, this is quite revealing.


I suggest you give him some recommendations on what to tell that "gate keeper" cus you certainly are the best qualified here to do so.

I'd hazard a guess that what Chuff wants me to do is reveal the "secret" to getting past the gate. The right words to say, as it were. Interesting take on it. I was merely suggesting - in analogy - that a person really should explain themselves, honestly that is, not just "say the right thing" in order to get past an obstacle. I think this is just another primary ethos of Chuffian Darwinism. The objective is to win, to individually triumph over the system.

Chuff, I am hardly qualified to explain werner to himself. Why do you think I am always asking him to do so? Do you really think I am trying to "fool" him into some compromising position? That would be fun sure but no it is not my primary purpose. I just want to see him live by an ethic worth something. Yes I'm aware he is a great rescuer and all that but for the purpose of this thread that means nothing. He needs to explain himself. asserting just dosn't cut it, as you well know.

No... you don't know that. Good thing hardly anyone thinks like you.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 25, 2014 - 10:24am PT
^^^^^^^^^^^There ya go Brucee KY!!!^^^^^^^^^^^


Perfect example of why you are the champ of bullshet on this thread.

By virtue of that position that you so proudly have attained, you need to share that gift with Werner and give him some deep insight on how to feed that "gate keeper" the bullshet in order to scam your ass into them gates.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 25, 2014 - 11:56am PT
Credit: Wade Icey
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 25, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/01/24/if-all-you-see-1020/
WBraun

climber
Jan 25, 2014 - 12:00pm PT
Bruce Kay = a stupid granny who runs her mouth incessantly non stop all day long saying absolutely nothing.

Bruce Kay = blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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Diarrhea of the mouth ....
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 25, 2014 - 12:15pm PT
Oh come on Braun.... what exactly do you have against Grannies? Did yours beat you with a 2 by 4 or something?

You guys are a riot. All you guys have to do is refute everything I say. It should be easy for you. The mighty Braun - Astro master, but not exactly a master of language.

Look, its very simple. You accuse someone of cowardice, or subversion or smelling like a cow or whatever then you better substantiate it. If the other argument wins, you change your tune. Its that simple. You refuse to do it and your ethics stink.

Which is why the Climate Change deniers ethics stink.

Yes? No?

Explain.
WBraun

climber
Jan 25, 2014 - 12:23pm PT
I never denied climate change here stupid fool.

I've been saying for 30 years now that mankind controls it's own fate for everything on this planet.

Whatever you desire will come about eventually.

Most of mankind's desires have been chaos and the results speak for themselves.

Everything negative including the present climate change is due to mankind's inharmonious actions towards the material nature.

You need serious help Bruce with your incessant babbling.

Seek help dude and learn to STFU for periods ......
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 25, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
well if I'm incessant then ..... oh never mind.

I never said you were a climate change denier. You know what I'm saying so stop trying to deflect. You're starting to sound like a damn denier. All I give a sh#t about is ethics. I'm not going to repeat myself, I mean what do you want - incessant babbling?
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - Jan 25, 2014 - 01:02pm PT
Wow. Boys, please.


This thread has, at times, been really cool and people had the semblance of a real discussion. We've had noted professional scientists calmly explain the state of the current science to a mob of people who don't care to listen. All they want to do is fight. And the people who've had good intentions are all throwing in the towel.

The lesson learned? You can't teach the willfully ignorant.

So y'all can happily carry this thread even farther down the sewer line, it's pretty much a case-closed argument now. I suppose the only thing left for deniers to do is to demand equal time (and more) than those who can actually reason. The deniers, with their <5%.

I wonder, why do they have such a loud voice? I see one thing, they're able to yell all day while the scientists are actually out in the field, working on the science on which they're reporting.
TLP

climber
Jan 25, 2014 - 01:16pm PT
"It is difficult to free fools from the chains they revere." - Voltaire
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jan 25, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
Nothing like the smug, holier-than-thou assh0le.

That's a special kind of hypocrite.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 25, 2014 - 01:38pm PT
The sharks lost their teeth and swam ignorantly into the sewer drain. We live, its a beautiful day, smell the roses.

The title of your thread is Climate Change Skeptics, isn't it Kelly?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 25, 2014 - 02:13pm PT
Hey Icey Hot, fixed it for ya Amigo!






More bullshet from KMAN!!


The deniers, with their <5%.


Says who?

The PAL REVIEWED CONSENSUS??


Unfortunately for you and the others KMAN, they haven't a say in what happens on this planet. Thank god!


http://www.pewresearch.org/key-data-points/climate-change-key-data-points-from-pew-research/
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jan 25, 2014 - 02:39pm PT
So, the public's concern about global warming could be labelled "who gives a sh1t", eh?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 25, 2014 - 02:43pm PT
Appears like they don't even deem it that high on the scale of concerns in regards to the reality of this planet.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 25, 2014 - 03:02pm PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA

Jan 25, 2014 - 11:46am PT


Especially when the posters are anonymous and do not have to face any consequence of their identity being known. This is such an attractive feature that people who are known even though they don't post under their own names take up other identities, an example being FORTMENTAL, DIRTBAG, WADE ICEY's characters. Such is the nature of the internet.

Fixed it for ya EDH.

Perfect example of your part in this threads single minded ideological political agenda.

Your welcome btw for my assisting you in telling ...

THE REST OF THE STORY!
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jan 25, 2014 - 03:09pm PT
not much to this thread lately, I've actually had a lot more productive things to do than participate on the banter...

...and there isn't much of relevance the so called "skeptics" have posted lately. In fact, I wouldn't call them skeptics at all, they aren't capable of rising to the definition. Most of the "skepticism" here is just re-blogging from blogs which are provide misleading information for a political end.

But lacking the skill to actually engage in any substantive discussion of science, the "skeptics" here are expert at bullying and at ad hominem attacks... which goes with the territory in the blog sphere. Especially when the posters are anonymous and do not have to face any consequence of their identity being known. This is such an attractive feature that people who are known even though they don't post under their own names take up other identities, an example being the now departed Knots character. Such is the nature of the internet.

When something seems interesting regarding climate change occurs, I'm sure it will be reported here... in the mean time those that enjoy reading one poster excoriate another (for no apparent reason than a personal dislike) can get their daily dose of it here. Obviously the "reactionary skeptics" are just that, reactionary, having no means to generate any interesting content, and waiting to disparage anything they claim a right to be "skeptical" of...

Ed - you seem to be making the same complaints over and over. The first few times were reasonable. But after a while, it's just whining.

And then there's the fact that you give a pass to the "believers" who regularly use those same low-brow tactics.

It's only bad when the other guys are doing it, eh?
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jan 25, 2014 - 03:14pm PT


Where's the warming?
raymond phule

climber
Jan 25, 2014 - 03:21pm PT
http://www.supertopo.com/inc/photo_zoom.php?dpid=Oj41NzkmKSEiLQ,,

One interesting thing to consider when talking about China is that it has a population of 4.2 times the population in USA. So that plot above show that the coal consumption in china and USA per capita is about the same.

China is a very large country and what it does is very important but I have a heard time to consider it the big bad wolf in regard to climate as many seems to do. The per capita release of CO2 in china is about half the release in USA if I remember correctly and much less if the total amount for for example the last 50 years is compare. The trend is of course important but to me it seems hypocritical to complain much about a country that release much less CO2 than your country does (per capita).

A lot of stuff is also produced in china so it is not that they just drive a lot in their huge cars or something like that.

It is also the country with most wind power installed so it is not that they do nothing either (but the capita figure is not that good in that case)
raymond phule

climber
Jan 25, 2014 - 03:25pm PT
Nice trend analysis there Sketch. Did you test allot of starting points to find the good one for that data set or did you copy it from a blog?
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