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TGT

Social climber
So Cal
May 12, 2014 - 09:14pm PT
http://news.yahoo.com/mid-may-storm-buries-colorado-flower-beds-under-151243283.html;_ylt=AsR5arGz56hwGoSKwGF53TrQtDMD;_ylu=X3oDMTBsOTJoYjVyBGNvbG8DZ3ExBHBvcwM2BHNlYwNzcg--

http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/05/10/if-all-you-see-1125/
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 12, 2014 - 09:15pm PT
Our government spends over $20 billion/year on global warming. What's it gotten us?

A lot of great data on what is happening to our climate. That and the rise of a bunch of bozos who claim that siense is stoopit.



"You don't need people’s opinion on a fact," Oliver said. "You might as well have a poll asking: ‘Which number is bigger, 15 or 5?’ or ‘Do owls exist?’ or ‘Are there hats?'"

“The debate on climate change ought not to be whether or not it exists,” he added. “It's what we should do about. There is a mountain of research on this topic.”



Yep, $20B a year gets us mountains and mountains of research. And the facts are in--but the great thing is, you can choose to ignore them. Simply, though, it doesn't matter in the long run what your opinion might be.

So Sketch, what's your next one-line quip gonna be? Something powerful and loaded with insight, no doubt.
the Fet

climber
Tu-Tok-A-Nu-La
May 12, 2014 - 09:30pm PT
All anyone has to do is look at the huge spike in co2 of the last 100 years compared to the last 500,000 years to know humans have caused way more co2 than naturally would exist. About 40% more.

Then look at the spike in global temp over the last 100 years compared to the last 1000 years.

It takes some serious self delusion to think humans are not causing rapid climate change.

I'm wary about accurately predicting the consequences (complexities, feedback mechanisms, etc) or proposed efforts to combat it ( someone's going to make money and others will lose money), but to be in denial of reality is so strange.

It's weird to see all the defense mechanisms people use to maintain this self delusion.
HighTraverse

Trad climber
Bay Area
May 12, 2014 - 10:31pm PT
It takes some serious self delusion to think humans are not causing rapid climate change.
self delusion is in abundance unfortunately. While the Europeans and even Chinese act we fiddle.
Between a mediocre health care system, declining educational system, climate change denial and gun slaughter we are becoming irrelevant to the rest of the world. They see how incompetent we have become as a nation. Incompetent to take care of our own or the planet. In spite of all our natural, human and technical resources. It is truly sad. The climate deniers are the new Nero.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all the Sheep from atop the Hill
May 12, 2014 - 10:36pm PT
Yep, $20B a year gets us mountains and mountains of research.

Wonderful.


Lots of research and nothing to show for it other than the temps are warming and clownshets like Frothmental can manipulate and impose photos onto made up shet boxes.

Pretty much what all the research adds up to.


Nothing.


Just proliferating more fear and doom unless we all stop existing.


PS: Can only imagine what FROTHMENTALS household is like.

Wait a minute...

YABADABADOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!






Delusional KMAN?


Good luck convincing America to live in a cave like you and the rest of you eco-freaktards here do.


Aint gonna happen.


Chinese act

Another wonderful delusional post by HT.

Yup, the Chinese are acting alright. Building and firing up a new coal fired pp once a week. That is why they surpassed the US in CO2 emissions three years ago. India should take over our slot as #2 some time this year.

Yup. They are acting alright.

WTF are you and America going to do to stop their industrial monster? Boycott their products? Right.


Oh, the Germans. They have pretty much given up on Green Energy. They are back onto the coal produced energy themselves. The people could not afford the cost of Green Power. Too many had to give up the cost of power in order to pay the rent and feed the family.

What a concept huh HT.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all the Sheep from atop the Hill
May 13, 2014 - 12:48am PT
YABADABADOOOOOOOOOOOO WITH THE FORTMENTAL's!


Look at us. We are doing our part to mitigate this hoax.




YIPPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEY!








Me a retard... Nope.




You on the other hand FORTMENTAL, ST's used shet paper smoking BUFFOON. With absolutely NO competition. None.




OH the horror.


Antarctica is melting now. Unstoppable they say. Results should be visible some time in the next 500- 1000 years, maybe.


Oh the horror.

The Chief

climber
Laughing at all the Sheep from atop the Hill
May 13, 2014 - 12:58am PT
Figured you'd be that kinda guy Fortmental.


Do your best buddies old lady.


Probably while he is doing you a favor and working on your rock foot mobile because you're too fking stupid to fix it yourself.


Niiiiiiiiiiiiiiice.
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all the Sheep from atop the Hill
May 13, 2014 - 09:10am PT
This statement from Larry's ref above:


potential to surprise us


The self centered egoism continues to shine so bright in that statement. Just another example of the pure human elitism within the Climate Science Consensus that continues to ooooze.


Like none of these events have ever occurred on this planet. Ever.


BTW: The Third Kelvin Wave has been detected exiting the IO. Hope you DMT have a functioning boat. That jacked up 4X4 Sportmobile of yours aint gonna do it when the never ending rains come.

Oakland 1998
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
May 13, 2014 - 09:29am PT

http://www.theweathernetwork.com/news/articles/melting-of-west-antarctics-glaciers-pass-point-of-no-return/27340/

He was referring to a recent Gallup report, which found that one in four American’s is skeptical of climate change.

“Who gives a sh#t?” Oliver counters. “You don’t need people’s opinion on a fact. You might as well have a poll asking: ‘Which number is bigger, 15 or 5?’ or ‘Do owls exist?’ or ‘Are there hats?’”

“The debate on climate change ought not to be whether or not it exists. It is what we should do about it,” Oliver exclaimed. “There is a mountain of research on this topic.”

“The only accurate way to report that one out of four Americans are skeptical of global warming is to say, ‘A poll finds that one in four Americans are wrong about something,’” Oliver said. “Because a survey of thousands of scientific papers that took a position on climate change found that 97 percent endorsed the positions that humans are causing global warming.”
http://www.salon.com/2014/05/12/watch_john_oliver_and_bill_nyes_brilliant_take_down_of_climate_change_deniers/
The Chief

climber
Laughing at all the Sheep from atop the Hill
May 13, 2014 - 09:35am PT
Hey Malmute...


"Runaway Antarctic Glaciers....IT'S UNSTOPPLE"
From your science boys that wrote that "Runaway" West Antarctic Shelf study.




It's all over. Done. Mankind will be all gone in 1000 years.



Just like the millions and millions of species that came and went before it.




Isn't "Your" evolution a motherfker, Malmute.



PS: Malmute, all this has NEVER happened before. Never.
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2014 - 10:46am PT
Oh look, here comes The Chief; sharp as the leading edge of a bowling ball and giving graham crackers a run for their money.
Michelle

Social climber
1187 Hunterwasser
May 13, 2014 - 10:49am PT
Holy CRAP. I just accidentally opened this thread for the first time. You guys are BRUTAL.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 13, 2014 - 10:49am PT
http://www.nytimes.com/2014/05/13/science/earth/collapse-of-parts-of-west-antarctica-ice-sheet-has-begun-scientists-say.html?hp&_r=3


BULLLLLSHHHEEEET1111116666666.


like that, chef. carry on .....
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2014 - 10:54am PT
Nothing like a gal with a gun to set us straight! Fish approves ;-)
k-man

Gym climber
SCruz
Topic Author's Reply - May 13, 2014 - 11:09am PT
Former vice president Al Gore says he sees the true motivation behind these remarks: currying favor with Republican megadonors like Charles and David Koch.

Speaking at the University of Chicago's Institute of Politics on Monday, Gore noted that Republicans like John McCain and Mitt Romney had acknowledged and taken steps toward solving the issue before it became politicized by the right.

"I don't think it's particularly complicated why they have all cowed into abandoning that position," Gore said. "They will face primary opponents financed by the Koch Brothers, and others who are part of their group, if they even breathe the slightest breath of sympathy for the truth about climate science. It's not really that complicated."

Gore continued: "And of course, Sen. Paul is from a coal state, but even if he were not, anyone who wants to set his or her aspirations on the Republican nomination for the presidency in 2016 already knows that they can't possibly cross the Koch brothers and the others that are part of that group, the large carbon polluters and ideological anti-statists who are really terrified that the government will do anything new, so as Grover Norquist said famously years ago, they want to shrink the government to where it can be drowned in a bathtub."


Yes, like I said earlier, "right-wing spin."
guyman

Social climber
Moorpark, CA.
May 13, 2014 - 11:14am PT
We are all going to die..... so sad.

In the mean time you-all just toss all your cash this a way, govmt will save the day.

The Chief

climber
Laughing at all the Sheep from atop the Hill
May 13, 2014 - 12:03pm PT
The Arctic and Antarctic are melting... "It's Unstoppable!!!"



RUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN!









Ah, where the fk are you all going to run to.

Oh, that's right. Obama and his Club of Rome associates, can fix it for you. Just pay him, his club (The UN etc) and it will all be OK.



Like GUYMAN posted, yur gonna die. Every last one of you. Probably all of mankind down the line.


That is how it all works in the Big Scheme of things here in this Universe.


Former vice president Al Gore says he sees the true motivation behind these remarks

That's coming from the dude who has cashed in well over $220 MILLION in the past seven or so years, on his "Climate Crises" propaganda proliferation.


Oh yeah. He also sold his TV station to, what... a Big Oil/Koch Bros sponsored entity??? No.

“Gore has faced blowback from the sale of his news network Current TV to Al Jazeera, which is backed by the oil-rich Middle Eastern nation of Qatar. The networked fetched $500 million, a fifth of which Gore is pocketing — troubling to some, given his fierce advocacy against climate change.”
http://www.inquisitr.com/506480/jon-stewart-confronts-al-gore-on-selling-out-to-big-oil-video/#R5uf1LvmyKLJ15lM.99

Gore + Motivation = Big Bucks. Wonderful.


WTF is up with Gore lately. Definitely gotta be doing some meth/coke. Watch the dude just two days ago. Can't sit still for one second.






Gore's definitely a good used car salesman. Got all you eco-freaks to give him your money.
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
May 13, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
dirtbag

climber
May 13, 2014 - 11:18pm PT

In the mean time you-all just toss all your cash this a way, govmt will save the day.

You're right.

A better use of your money is to buy beer, porn, and all the other goodies you can consuuuuuume instead of using that money to ensure you leave a decent planet for your progeny.

After all, it's all about YOU and your precious goodies.

God bless America, cuz I've got mine now.
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
May 14, 2014 - 01:12am PT
We've had the release of IPCC's AR5 SPM, then the series of working group reports, we've had our own national climate asessment, now we've had the release of the NOAA sea temps and the absurd papers on the West Antarctic glaciers supposedly inevitable slide into the sea. All of these reports, papers and manipulated data's are falling on largely deaf ears. The majority of the populace, and now some major media outlets, openly snicker at the ridulous ineptitude of the international cabal of fascist ecofreaks posing as warm and fuzzy socialists and pushing this failing scheme. A large portion of the remaining populace just silently nod in agreement, not wanting to invite "progressive wrath" upon their already sore ears. The largest segment of the populace pushing this agenda is composed of the huge CAGW industry comprised of publically funded and failing corporations (often producing absolutely nothing before going bankrupt, but not before the top management escape with golden parachutes), politicians that get rich through family aimed kickbacks and recieve large campaign donations from those that benefit from their legislation, and universities whose professors have churned out huge excesses of otherwise useless environmental studies graduates increasingly over the last few generations; all these industry participants are pushing their idiotic agenda as if their life depends on it. In reality their lives, or at least their livliehoods, depend on the continuing green rape of our society . Of course their is another small subset of the populace, like Bruce, who through no fault of their own limited mental faculties fell for the propaganda hook, line and sinker. Dupes like these often heavily weight their meager retirement portfolios with the now sinking green tech stocks. Pity the poor fools.

Let's get it straight people. The earth is not going to burn. The equillibrium climate sensitivity of a doubling of CO2 is steadily trending downwards as legitamate ( non CAGW industry) scientists, in increasing numbers, look at real data in realistic ways. The ECS is accepted to be 1.3C, or less by these scientists, as the much ballyhooed feedbacks are weighted to the negative side of the ledger. You will not drown in rapid sea level rise, in fact the slow steady rise in sealevels from the little ice age is by many accounts slowing and will amount to less than a foot over the next century. The frequency and intensity of storms is not increasing, rather it is decreasing. Droughts and heatwaves are not increasing, rather only the much hyped media coverage is increasing. Modern agriculture is not in any danger of not meeting the needs of the masses. The total ice mass of the earth is not currently shrinking, in fact, because of massive gains in Antartica it is slightly increasing. The Sun has just passed, in the late 1990's, a 1000 year maximum of activity ( grand maximum) and is forecast with increasing certainty to go into at least a 30 year cycle of unusually low activity. In short, we are entering into a cooling period.

All will be fine. Don't worry your pretty, or ugly, little heads as it will make absolutely no difference. Nothing to see here people, go home, go to sleep. Your kids and grandkids will thankyou for the inattention to this manufactured crisis.



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