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dirtbag

climber
Jan 1, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
The above post solidifies the FACT how this is all about the ideology of the entire aspect within the Climate Science scientism agenda.

Nothing more.

Thank you Larry Hamilton.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 1, 2014 - 01:19pm PT
You're confusing the issue the chief - I said titles EARNED. I think you earned your rank. I think Ed earned his. I do not think either of you should have those titles, which is what they are, denigrated for the sake of internet banter. Not yours. Not Ed's. You both put in a lot of time to attain those titles, with real sacrifice.

You will note there are no back handed compliments in the above.

I offer it without qualification.

DMT
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jan 1, 2014 - 01:41pm PT
I hope none of you owns a leaf blower.



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rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 1, 2014 - 02:27pm PT
Very good presentation Dr. Hartouni
So Base and Chiloe what besides genocide is the solution to this population bomb? Can we get a handle on it without surrendering our freedoms to central planning authorities?
Are climate change mitagation scheme's a step down the road to surrender of the individuals freedoms?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 1, 2014 - 02:48pm PT
dirtbag


climber

Jan 1, 2014 - 01:08pm PT



Now.... that's more like it DIRTTWITBAG
Chiloe

Trad climber
Lee, NH
Jan 1, 2014 - 02:52pm PT
So Base and Chiloe what besides genocide is the solution to this population bomb?
You can't think of anything else, Rick? Quite the alarmist.

But in this and your other silly questions you're posing your own catastrophic solutions as if they were arguments that a problem can't be real. What Ed, Base and most scientists have been trying to communicate is that the problems are real, whether you chose to see them or not.
new world order2

climber
Jan 1, 2014 - 03:00pm PT
When world leaders speak of depopulation...What do you think it means?
When world leaders speak of depopulation...What do you think it means?
Credit: new world order2
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 1, 2014 - 03:06pm PT
So Base and Chiloe what besides genocide is the solution to this population bomb?

ultimately the solution simply has to be what CHINA has done in limiting every woman to only one child, with penalties for exceeding.

China was being crushed by their own exploding population and knew that they could not provide either the infrastructure or the jobs for the projected increase in population.

You can bet that your bible quoting go forth and multiply Republicans will of course scream bloody murder in opposition here in this country WHEN our time comes.

Like all species as Darwin said, human fate will ultimately be limited and decided by our environment, and that includes both land resources and also dealing with CLIMATE.

really, we can only hope that the Republican party dies off fast enough so that the needed changes can be put in place to insure the survival of life here in US - long term
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jan 1, 2014 - 03:39pm PT
what besides genocide is the solution to this population bomb?

Simple.

One solution, and one only: Education, especially of girls.

If women are better educated, they choose to have fewer children.
Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jan 1, 2014 - 03:57pm PT
Simple.

One solution, and one only: Education, especially of girls.

If women are better educated, they choose to have fewer children.

That's assuming they have a say in the matter.

In many Third World countries, they don't.
new world order2

climber
Jan 1, 2014 - 04:09pm PT

ultimately the solution simply has to be what CHINA has done in limiting every woman to only one child, with penalties for exceeding.

China Formally Eases One-Child Policy
From the Wall Street Journal.... http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304753504579285713411915716
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 1, 2014 - 04:31pm PT
One solution, and one only: Education, especially of girls.

Since you all are statistic people... chow down on this sorry one!

This is for the country that's supposedly one of the highest "educated" on the planet has been trying to educate it's "girls" with the tax payers money since 1970....

It happened when Guttmacher studied the rate of unintended pregnancies from 2001-2006. Added details from the pro-abortion agency can be found by clicking here. Guttmacher’s report makes it clear that increased government funding for Planned Parenthood has made ZERO impact on decreasing the unintended pregnancy rate across the nation. Yes, you read that right, ZERO. It gets even more alarming. They found the pregnancy rate for poor women jumped by over 50%. It’s appalling!

http://www.lifenews.com/2011/09/09/planned-parenthood-stimulus-failure-abortions-dont-drop/


Next bullshet Utopian unrealistic pull it outta your ass idea/post....
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 1, 2014 - 04:43pm PT
statistic are worthless to a person who has no understanding of statistics.





Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 1, 2014 - 04:46pm PT
chief,

Planned Parenthood has very little involvement, if any at all, in the lives of young women BEFORE they get pregnant in the first place.

They come to PP mostly if they are "poor" and for medical advice for their own health and information about STDs and contraceptions, and occasionally for an abortion.

the point is that your crowing contention that PP has this measured oversized effect on the birth rate in the Unites States is without merit

In addition, there has been for a long time solid evidence that yes, common sense, the more young women do get educated they are more likely to make more considered and responsible decisions about their own bodies and controlling pregnancies much better.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 1, 2014 - 04:49pm PT
Ok then BRUCEE KY...

Let's change the verbiage to read, "Here's the TRUTH and REALITY"!


Guttmacher’s report makes it clear that increased government funding for Planned Parenthood has made ZERO impact on decreasing the unintended pregnancy rate across the nation. Yes, you read that right, ZERO. It gets even more alarming. They found the pregnancy rate for poor women jumped by over 50%. It’s appalling!
http://www.lifenews.com/2011/09/09/planned-parenthood-stimulus-failure-abortions-dont-drop/





And you gotta love the irony in this piece of propaganda that came from the Warmist Brigade stuck in the "disappearing" Antarctic sea ice since before Christmas that will be rescued by helo ops commencing any minute:

The team has been carrying out the same scientific experiments that Mawson's group conducted during their expedition, partly in an attempt to discover how quickly the Antarctic's sea ice is disappearing.
http://news.yahoo.com/ice-weather-stalls-antarctic-air-sea-rescue-002856025.html

What a fking joke.
dirtbag

climber
Jan 1, 2014 - 04:56pm PT
fuking idiot...
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 1, 2014 - 05:00pm PT
Took the words right out of my mouth dirtbag.....


Heres something that might help the paper tigers amongst us:



The Tiger That Isn't
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Author Michael Blastland & Andrew Dilnot

The Tiger That Isn't is a statistics book written by Michael Blastland and Andrew Dilnot, the creater and presenter of BBC Radio 4's More or Less.
The book has received favourable reviews for the simple presentation of complicated ideas.[1][2]
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jan 1, 2014 - 05:10pm PT
The Chief,

yes, thanks for the link. From the link you posted:

"the rate [of unintended pregnancy] has increased dramatically among poor women, while among higher-income women it has continued to decrease substantially"

Which would seem to support exactly what I said, that better educated women (and increasing wealth correlates with better education) make better decisions about their lives than poorer, uneducated women.

This, too:

"“Poor women’s high rate of unintended pregnancy results in their also having high—and increasing—rates of both abortions (52 per 1,000) and unplanned births (66 per 1,000). In 2006, poor women had an unintended pregnancy rate five times that of higher-income women, and an unintended birth rate six times as high,” the new report showed."

Umm, what was your point, again?
TLP

climber
Jan 1, 2014 - 05:26pm PT
Of course everyone involved in the studies linked below is part of a vast multi-decade international conspiracy to lie to and deceive us in support of the evil political agenda of promoting the education of human beings, but even so, here are just a few of the many many many social scientific studies and reviews that demonstrate that improving the education of girls reduces birth rates.

What a disaster it will be for the world if half the population were to learn facts, how science works, and horror of horrors, even that they should think!

http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/97facts/edu2birt.htm
http://www2.pitt.edu/~aleon/papers/fertility.pdf
http://www.un.org/News/Press/docs/2011/pop994.doc.htm
http://www.studymode.com/essays/Relationship-Between-Fertility-Rates-And-Education-986990.html
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 1, 2014 - 05:39pm PT
Which would seem to support exactly what I said, that better educated women ..

The tax payer funded education process known as "Planned Parenthood" was put in place and directed to the "poor women" of this nation back in 1970.

The point Crunched, was that the process to educate the "girls" (in this case specifically directed to the poor community) about their sexual behaviors as you claimed should be done, has been around for over 44 years and has failed... "miserably".

"“Poor women’s high rate of unintended pregnancy results in their also having high—and increasing—rates of both abortions (52 per 1,000) and unplanned births (66 per 1,000). In 2006, poor women had an unintended pregnancy rate five times that of higher-income women, and an unintended birth rate six times as high,” the new report showed."

Oh yeah, at the rate the Middle Class gets screwed with more taxes etc, the Poor Class in this Nation is growing and soon will merge with the Middle Class. Eventually leading to only two classes in this Nation... The Poor and the Rich.


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