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Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 6, 2014 - 06:43pm PT
There was Once?


Get your head outta them fukbooks and stop straddling that fence boy.

Not once Dingus, but on a regular/normal basis.


It is the Norm.


Just like hunting with dogs all over the South/East.


The Norm, huh? You sure latched on to those mega-droughts. Your seletive google skills are failing you, son. Back to Los Angeles for you city boy.

In 1999, geologists drilled a 186-meter deep core into the Death Valley floor near Badwater Basin. The core has shed light on the contemporary understanding of Lake Manly's age and clearly divided Lake Manly's history into six distinct time periods. The six time periods all clearly corresponded to the climate in Death Valley, which was the driving force behind Lake Manly's formation and disappearance.

192 to 186 ka--The climate was dry and the ground was dominated by saltpans or shallow ephemeral lakes.
186 to 120 ka--The climate was relatively cold with abundant inflow, the first primary manifestation of Lake Manly and the time during which it reached its maximum.
120 to 60 ka--The climate was a dry period when mudflats stretched across the valley bottom.
60 to 35 ka--The climate was cool, but relatively arid and without enough inflow to sustain anything but very shallow saline lakes.
35 to 10 ka--The climate was cold and wet, allowing for consistent inflow that fed a perennial saline lake, the second primary manifestation of Lake Manly.
10 ka to the present--The climate is dry and warm, so the minor inflow quickly evaporates, forming mudflats and salt flats.


So it goes for all your climate proclamations - worthless in the past, blind to the future.

DMT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 06:48pm PT
DINGUS..

Do you read the shet you post?



Obviously NOT!


From your last ...

10 ka to the present--The climate is dry and warm, so the minor inflow quickly evaporates, forming mudflats and salt flats.


And the simple synopsis...

DRY IS THE NORM for the past 10K years.


Thank you DINGUS.


Just like this study indicated:

BEGINNING about 1,100 years ago, what is now California baked in two droughts, the first lasting 220 years and the second 140 years. Each was much more intense than the mere six-year dry spells that afflict modern California from time to time, new studies of past climates show. The findings suggest, in fact, that relatively wet periods like the 20th century have been the exception rather than the rule in California for at least the last 3,500 years, and that mega-droughts are likely to recur.


Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan

Jan 6, 2014 - 03:43pm PT

In 1999, geologists drilled a 186-meter deep core into the Death Valley floor near Badwater Basin. The core has shed light on the contemporary understanding of Lake Manly's age and clearly divided Lake Manly's history into six distinct time periods. The six time periods all clearly corresponded to the climate in Death Valley, which was the driving force behind Lake Manly's formation and disappearance.

192 to 186 ka--The climate was dry and the ground was dominated by saltpans or shallow ephemeral lakes.
186 to 120 ka--The climate was relatively cold with abundant inflow, the first primary manifestation of Lake Manly and the time during which it reached its maximum.
120 to 60 ka--The climate was a dry period when mudflats stretched across the valley bottom.
60 to 35 ka--The climate was cool, but relatively arid and without enough inflow to sustain anything but very shallow saline lakes.
35 to 10 ka--The climate was cold and wet, allowing for consistent inflow that fed a perennial saline lake, the second primary manifestation of Lake Manly.
10 ka to the present--The climate is dry and warm, so the minor inflow quickly evaporates, forming mudflats and salt flats.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 6, 2014 - 06:50pm PT
THE NORM.

THE NORM.

THE NORM.

(except when its not.)

DMT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 06:53pm PT
Only when you say it is "NOT".




But that of course is not the reality per your last post

10 ka to the present--The climate is dry and warm, so the minor inflow quickly evaporates, forming mudflats and salt flats.



Oh ....



The Irony of this latest development from Texas:


Icy weather threatens oil output from Texas to North Dakota


(Reuters) - The severe cold weather sweeping across the mid-United States is threatening to curtail booming oil production as it disrupts traffic, strands wells and interrupts drilling and fracking operations.

Weather stations across the U.S. Midwest recorded some of the coldest temperatures in two decades this weekend, with many schools closed and flights delayed. Arctic cold air is also spreading across Texas on Monday with temperatures expected to drop to single digits in the morning
http://news.yahoo.com/icy-weather-threatens-oil-output-texas-north-dakota-180742185--finance.html
Malemute

Ice climber
great white north
Jan 6, 2014 - 06:57pm PT
Thanks k-man!

Credit: Malemute

Jetstream for Jan 6 2014
That's why Chicago is getting pounded!


The fastest winds (white) are over Washington DC, so blame yourselves, Yanks!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:10pm PT
Fuking prevailing stationary High Pressure over the Great Basin that is why the West is Dry.




No Eka Sketch needing to deduce that.


rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:12pm PT
Just back from the beautiful northern California coast where i spent my time beachcombing, bouldering, walking amongst the redwoods, and anything else to avoid fascination with this three ring circus.

The locals i talked to noticed two sea level rises, one in March 1964 and another smaller increment in March 2011. Other than that, nothing in their long lives. As far as environmental refugees; the only ones noticeable are victims of environmental activism in the logging, farming, power generation and now fishing industries. These attacks on peoples livliehoods always start with studies of the kind Larry generates. I wish these science destroyers were forced to live in their victims shoes.

Anyway 2014 is starting with distinct signs of cooling-historic coldspells in North America, Russia, the far east. the ship of fools stuck along with rescuers in the thickening Antarctic ice, historic proportions of global Polar ice, etc., etc. This is on top of the long list of cold, snow, and ice anomalies of 2013. With all this the CAGW industry is spinning tall tales in hyper drive, trying to convince it's waning base of idealogues,crooks, fools and idiots that they can still win this battle against humanity.

It's good to see that The Chief still has all barrels blazing in withering return fire against the forces of farce assembled here on this thread. Good work also to Ron, Sketch, Abrams, Command Error and others. What the hell happened to Ed, is he suffering from buyers remorse after further survey of this crock of shet?
FortMentäl

Social climber
Albuquerque, NM
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:12pm PT
No Eka Sketch needing to deduce that.
...you really are retarded, aren't you!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Just for you FUKEDINTHEHEADMENTAL:









Welcome Back RICK!!




Now..


Shoot em in the face.
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
.... and now fishing industries. These attacks on peoples livliehoods always start with studies of the kind Larry generates.

Damn right. Shameful how those scientists and enviro idiots conspired to stop good, hardworking fishermen pulling cod out of the Grand Banks.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 6, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
Man, have you ever met a bigger jerk? I'm thinking hard...

Pretty good question! Hard to say for sure without meeting him in the flesh. It could be that he's sort of an Owen Meanie limp wrist after all.

I've met worst pricks, none of them the gangster hitmen that chuff idolizes, just regular every day types. Just last spring it was a French Canadian construction boss, short napolean complex like chuff and a similar sort of hostile stupidity. I got fired before I got to see him lose all his front teeth demonstrating his skidooing prowess so the full extent of his potential went unwitnessed.

The worst might have been a BC Hydro lineman foreman that his guys despised with unconcealed contempt and hilarity. The full extent of his association with the boys was overseeing a tailgate meeting every morning where safety issues were blown off in a pompous display of harassment and insinuation that they were wasting the company money so get the fuk to work while he went to sleep in the truck with a vodka bottle. The clincher was that his wife suffered from MS, which provided all the vulnerability he needed to abuse her mentally and even physically according to the guys. He certainly had a personality and attitude that gave some credibility to the story.

I'm sure by that standard chuff is OK
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 08:37pm PT
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 6, 2014 - 09:39pm PT
What a bunch of pathetic children....
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 6, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
Credit: Shakleton light



oh look, it's Rev. Judge Mental
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
Nice to have you aboard Cragman. This looks interesting. Nothing too new, and as it is so biased to the old AGW thing and it comes from Huffpost, It can only be communist propaganda.

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2014/01/did-global-warming-get-arctic-drunk
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA

Jan 6, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
rick writes, after his vacation here in California's unseasonably mild weather
What the hell happened to Ed, is he suffering from buyers remorse after further survey of this crock of shet?

if by "survey of this crock of shet" he means the way this thread is lately, well, there isn't much to contribute.

Perhaps the "brain trust" of The Chief, Sketch, Ron, rick, TGT, et al can clue me into why the current events regarding the various ice bound ships in Antarctica have anything to do with climate, though it will be a stretch, no doubt.

Generally I respond to things I find interesting. Sketch's claim that the 2013 sea ice extent was "unlikely" to happen initiated my look at the variance of the sea ice extent... and what one finds is that while there are interesting features to the 2013 season, it hardly qualifies as "unlikely" from a simple statistical analysis.

What I learned in this exercise was Sketch's reluctance to comment on it at all, and my conclusion that he is more interested in developing his persona as a twit, something he is quite successful at as the evidence is abundant on this thread. While Sketch claims some understanding of statistics, my conclusion is that he's probably not that far ahead of The Chief in his analytic abilities.

TGT is a one trick pony, he will remind us that the extinction length of 100% concentration of CO₂ is quite short, 2.5 m is equivalent to the the entire atmospheric height, at 300 ppm concentration, and that only scatters 67% of the absorption band. Other than the fact that he has never understood this he persists, mostly he likes to post links to pretty girls over smarmy captions. Nothing to learn there....

Ron just thinks the spotted owl killed off the western lumber economy and he fears the same people are conspiring to do something equally awful. Easy just to deny that the science is science. Sort of like you, rick, though you read a bit more widely, you are digging for some alternate explanation that supports your political point of view.

The Chief is just out of control, he puts up random facts and claims they support his points, he mostly posts sanctimoniously, having set himself up to judge all the others that post. Upon provoking the other posters, and getting the same, he cries that he's been insulted and demands that others agree that he's not the only one doing it... but if he stopped doing what he does, others would stop responding. We could do that experiment, except for the fact that The Chief seems to have an irrational compulsion to post 3 to 4 times an hour (on average) for days on end, stopping to sleep, eat and take a sh#t (I presume, though he presents us with the virtual consequences of his ill digested "thoughts").

I don't feel the need to post to "this crock of shet" you have made here, rick... but when something interests me, I'll probably contribute. I look forward to Chiloe's contributions here as valuable. Looks like some others are getting into the spirit of downloading data and doing analyses themselves, that's good...

but obviously not something that The Chief, Sketch, Ron, rick, TGT can do...


Wrong!


I do not eat, shet nor sleep.


he cries that he's been insulted and demands that others agree that he's not the only one doing it... but if he stopped doing what he does, others would stop responding.

Please do post where I "cried" about being insulted.


Oh please do.



Now for an update on them two ships stuck in the Antarctic Summer Sea Ice....

Responding to a request from Russia, China and Australia, a U.S. Coast Guard heavy icebreaker will leave Australia for Antarctica on Sunday to rescue more than 120 crew members aboard two icebreakers trapped in pack ice near the frozen continent’s eastern edge, officials said.

The nearly 400-foot cutter, the Polar Star, is set to assist the Russian and Chinese ships because “there is sufficient concern that the vessels may not be able to free themselves from the ice,” the Coast Guard said in a statement.

The Russian [climate] research ship Akademik Shokalskiy has been trapped in ice-clogged Commonwealth Bay since Christmas Eve, while the Chinese ship which came to its rescue, Xue Long or Snow Dragon in Chinese, reported on Friday it too had become stuck nearby.



TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/01/06/if-all-you-see-1002/



Avg temp USA 17.2f
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:17pm PT
Al Gore is the shepherd....of an awful lot of sheep.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:24pm PT
Ed....why do I need technical supporting opinions.....Al Gore and all his cronies have disappeared from this topic.....and walked away with MILLIONS of dollars.

There endeth the lesson.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:27pm PT
Ed, you are aware you're arguing with people who are only armed with Limbaugh talking points, right? They are on the wrong side of the issue and history.
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