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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:35pm PT
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Just for you FUKEDINTHEHEADMENTAL:









Welcome Back RICK!!




Now..


Shoot em in the face.
crunch

Social climber
CO
Jan 6, 2014 - 07:43pm PT
.... and now fishing industries. These attacks on peoples livliehoods always start with studies of the kind Larry generates.

Damn right. Shameful how those scientists and enviro idiots conspired to stop good, hardworking fishermen pulling cod out of the Grand Banks.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 6, 2014 - 08:09pm PT
Man, have you ever met a bigger jerk? I'm thinking hard...

Pretty good question! Hard to say for sure without meeting him in the flesh. It could be that he's sort of an Owen Meanie limp wrist after all.

I've met worst pricks, none of them the gangster hitmen that chuff idolizes, just regular every day types. Just last spring it was a French Canadian construction boss, short napolean complex like chuff and a similar sort of hostile stupidity. I got fired before I got to see him lose all his front teeth demonstrating his skidooing prowess so the full extent of his potential went unwitnessed.

The worst might have been a BC Hydro lineman foreman that his guys despised with unconcealed contempt and hilarity. The full extent of his association with the boys was overseeing a tailgate meeting every morning where safety issues were blown off in a pompous display of harassment and insinuation that they were wasting the company money so get the fuk to work while he went to sleep in the truck with a vodka bottle. The clincher was that his wife suffered from MS, which provided all the vulnerability he needed to abuse her mentally and even physically according to the guys. He certainly had a personality and attitude that gave some credibility to the story.

I'm sure by that standard chuff is OK
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 08:37pm PT
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 6, 2014 - 09:39pm PT
What a bunch of pathetic children....
Wade Icey

Trad climber
www.alohashirtrescue.com
Jan 6, 2014 - 09:42pm PT
Credit: Shakleton light



oh look, it's Rev. Judge Mental
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:08pm PT
Nice to have you aboard Cragman. This looks interesting. Nothing too new, and as it is so biased to the old AGW thing and it comes from Huffpost, It can only be communist propaganda.

http://www.motherjones.com/blue-marble/2014/01/did-global-warming-get-arctic-drunk
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:12pm PT
Ed Hartouni

Trad climber
Livermore, CA

Jan 6, 2014 - 06:28pm PT
rick writes, after his vacation here in California's unseasonably mild weather
What the hell happened to Ed, is he suffering from buyers remorse after further survey of this crock of shet?

if by "survey of this crock of shet" he means the way this thread is lately, well, there isn't much to contribute.

Perhaps the "brain trust" of The Chief, Sketch, Ron, rick, TGT, et al can clue me into why the current events regarding the various ice bound ships in Antarctica have anything to do with climate, though it will be a stretch, no doubt.

Generally I respond to things I find interesting. Sketch's claim that the 2013 sea ice extent was "unlikely" to happen initiated my look at the variance of the sea ice extent... and what one finds is that while there are interesting features to the 2013 season, it hardly qualifies as "unlikely" from a simple statistical analysis.

What I learned in this exercise was Sketch's reluctance to comment on it at all, and my conclusion that he is more interested in developing his persona as a twit, something he is quite successful at as the evidence is abundant on this thread. While Sketch claims some understanding of statistics, my conclusion is that he's probably not that far ahead of The Chief in his analytic abilities.

TGT is a one trick pony, he will remind us that the extinction length of 100% concentration of CO₂ is quite short, 2.5 m is equivalent to the the entire atmospheric height, at 300 ppm concentration, and that only scatters 67% of the absorption band. Other than the fact that he has never understood this he persists, mostly he likes to post links to pretty girls over smarmy captions. Nothing to learn there....

Ron just thinks the spotted owl killed off the western lumber economy and he fears the same people are conspiring to do something equally awful. Easy just to deny that the science is science. Sort of like you, rick, though you read a bit more widely, you are digging for some alternate explanation that supports your political point of view.

The Chief is just out of control, he puts up random facts and claims they support his points, he mostly posts sanctimoniously, having set himself up to judge all the others that post. Upon provoking the other posters, and getting the same, he cries that he's been insulted and demands that others agree that he's not the only one doing it... but if he stopped doing what he does, others would stop responding. We could do that experiment, except for the fact that The Chief seems to have an irrational compulsion to post 3 to 4 times an hour (on average) for days on end, stopping to sleep, eat and take a sh#t (I presume, though he presents us with the virtual consequences of his ill digested "thoughts").

I don't feel the need to post to "this crock of shet" you have made here, rick... but when something interests me, I'll probably contribute. I look forward to Chiloe's contributions here as valuable. Looks like some others are getting into the spirit of downloading data and doing analyses themselves, that's good...

but obviously not something that The Chief, Sketch, Ron, rick, TGT can do...


Wrong!


I do not eat, shet nor sleep.


he cries that he's been insulted and demands that others agree that he's not the only one doing it... but if he stopped doing what he does, others would stop responding.

Please do post where I "cried" about being insulted.


Oh please do.



Now for an update on them two ships stuck in the Antarctic Summer Sea Ice....

Responding to a request from Russia, China and Australia, a U.S. Coast Guard heavy icebreaker will leave Australia for Antarctica on Sunday to rescue more than 120 crew members aboard two icebreakers trapped in pack ice near the frozen continentís eastern edge, officials said.

The nearly 400-foot cutter, the Polar Star, is set to assist the Russian and Chinese ships because ďthere is sufficient concern that the vessels may not be able to free themselves from the ice,Ē the Coast Guard said in a statement.

The Russian [climate] research ship Akademik Shokalskiy has been trapped in ice-clogged Commonwealth Bay since Christmas Eve, while the Chinese ship which came to its rescue, Xue Long or Snow Dragon in Chinese, reported on Friday it too had become stuck nearby.



TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:13pm PT
http://www.thepiratescove.us/2014/01/06/if-all-you-see-1002/



Avg temp USA 17.2f
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:17pm PT
Al Gore is the shepherd....of an awful lot of sheep.
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:24pm PT
Ed....why do I need technical supporting opinions.....Al Gore and all his cronies have disappeared from this topic.....and walked away with MILLIONS of dollars.

There endeth the lesson.
crankster

Trad climber
South Lake Tahoe, CA
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:27pm PT
Ed, you are aware you're arguing with people who are only armed with Limbaugh talking points, right? They are on the wrong side of the issue and history.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:27pm PT
Monday is officially a day for the record books in Chicago.

The temperature at O'Hare hit 15 degrees below zero at 7 a.m. on Monday, breaking the previous record low for the date of 14 below, the Chicago Weather Center blog reports. The temperature dropped another degree, to 16 below, by 8. a.m. To make matters worse, the wind chill at O'Hare dropped as low as 42 degrees below zero and a wind chill warning remains in effect for the Chicago area through noon Tuesday.

The previous record low was set on both 1894 and 1988
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/01/06/chicago-record-low-temperature_n_4548999.html


I will post the other 236 Cold Temp Records (Both High and Low) set today when the NOAA Graph comes out in the morning.

Below-zero temperatures, some into double digits, brought life to a virtual standstill across much of the upper and industrial Midwest. Chicago saw a record low minus 15, and Quincy, Ill., tied a record at minus 9.

The cold stretched into southern regions accustomed to a milder January. Waco, Texas, saw 16 degrees and Monroe, La., 19, both records.

Calculating for the wind effect, Comertown, Mont., saw minus 63 and Rolla, N.D., saw minus 60 wind chills.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/01/06/polar-vortex-pushes-subzero-temps-into-midwest/4335777/

January is shaping up to be the COLDEST month of January in the US on RECORD!
rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:32pm PT
Okay good, proof of life from Ed the maestro. Glad you survived your 60th and despite your advanced age you are still a willing combatant. Now why does the ship of fools have anything to do with climate? Besides the obvious fact that Antartica has ignored the blessed models of CO2 scientology, you guys either made up or highlighted every warm or storm anomaly for all of 2013. It is futility to deny this.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:34pm PT
Ed....why do I need technical supporting opinions.....


Uh.... you do realize this thread is about science don't you?

Oh never mind. I recall asking you simple straight forward questions in the past and recieving nothing but stoney silence in return.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:38pm PT
Interesting to see that when the heat is on, life still continues normally.


But when Mother Earth shets cold on the planet, it comes to a standstill.

Even the US Senate had to cancel it's first day back.

Why?

The record extreme cold kept half of the members from showing up.


Brutal subzero temperatures forced school closings,
kept people home from work, stymied air travel and posed
real danger to anyone lingering outdoors as arctic air swept
across the Midwest on its way toward the East Coast.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2014/01/06/polar-vortex-pushes-subzero-temps-into-midwest/4335777/


None of the above occurs when there is a Heat Wave on. Never.


And you science tards want to start fking with the climate.


Uh.... you do realize this thread is about science don't you?


Says who BRUCEE KY'd Jelliedbrain.


Here is KMAN's original post. Not one word regarding science. Just a flat out ATTACK and firing the first salvo!

k-man

Gym climber
SCruz

Topic Author's Original Post - Sep 28, 2009 - 01:00pm PT
I read a funny quote: We're treating Mother Earth like Keith Moon treated a hotel room.

Just wondering, are there any more climate change skeptics out there? Or did they all die off from gagging on all the right-wing spin on the subject?
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:41pm PT
Ed....why do I need technical supporting opinions....

You have Duck Dynasty, bro!

DMT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:44pm PT
^^^^^And a Tennessee wanna-be boy turned Liberal so he can be part of the CA Climber Tribe!

Bra!
TGT

Social climber
So Cal
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:45pm PT
very now and then an Arctic expedition into the ice that isnít supposed to be there comes face to face with the fact that the polar ice doesnít seem to be aware of their settled science. But just as the lack of elves never disproves the need for elf environmental impact studies, all the ice in the arctic canít stop the wannabe elves in their expensive parkas from believing that technology is destroying the world.

The left likes to claim that itís part of the reality-based community. But the reality that itís based on exists only in the human imagination. The unreal left lives in an imaginary world of fantasy economics where money is infinite, in a world of fantasy science where cow flatulence is the greatest threat to mankind and in a world of imaginary politics where everything is possible if only they believe it is true.

A sufficiently advanced technology may be indistinguishable from magic, but the leftís ideological eco-magic is no substitute for science.

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2014/dgreenfield/the-magical-thinking-of-the-left/
Cragman

Trad climber
June Lake, California....via the Damascus Road
Jan 6, 2014 - 10:51pm PT
Ed, I believe we humans have a negative impact on much of our environment.

But I do not buy into the fact that we are suffering a "global warming" that you and others ascribe to....I believe it is simply a cycle that the world has lived with since the dawn of time. Sometimes hot....sometimes cold.

Much like this forum.
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