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The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 28, 2014 - 10:54pm PT
Total FAIL as usual MONO.




From your own NOAA latest QPF as of 0000z...


http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/qpf/p168i.gif

LOOKING AT TOTAL QPF AMOUNTS OF AROUND 2.5 INCHES FOR THE CREST
AROUND TAHOE AND 1-1.5 INCHES FOR THE BASIN NORTH TO WESTERN
LASSEN COUNTY AND INTO MONO COUNTY.
http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=REV&product=AFD&format=CI&version=1&glossary=1


Oh yeah, this today from your own NOAA as well regarding the building El Nino...




And this from NASA GISS HMFIC...

An El Nino trend is likely to develop this year, Gavin Schmidt, deputy director of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies in New York, said this month. It’s been almost five years since the last event, which typically occurs every two to seven years, according to Indonesia’s Meteorological, Climatology and Geophysics Agency.



But your propaganda media machine SF GATE knows better.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:02pm PT
Do what it did back in 1910-1945.


And, bring lot's of water to the West as it did in 1983 so you all can stfu about CAGW causing this supposed drought.


But, you will then blame the over abundance of rain and snow and all the mudslides/flooding that will ensue on, you got it, CAGW.



Be careful what you ask for.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:10pm PT
Maybe so, but it won't be due to CAGW will it now.


It will be due to the natural and ongoing ENSO that has been around for how long now.... 10,000 years.

With evidence of El Nino bringing powerful changes in the climate some 500 years ago. Even led to the demise pre-Columbian Inca, Moche and other pre-Columbian Peruvian cultures.

Major ENSO events were recorded in the years 1790–93, 1828, 1876–78, 1891...

Long before any evidence of human emitted FF C02.



Be careful what you all are asking for.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:14pm PT
ENSO in the long run, nets out to very little of the warming.

You'll figure it out some time, or, er maybe not.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:18pm PT
Bullshet.



Cite a study that backs your claim.
monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:19pm PT
Prove it's wrong, Chief.

Please cite the journal.

It's hilarious you didn't know this.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:56pm PT
FAIL. Mono. Complete FAIL... typical.


But laugh away at your consistent FAIL.



Evidence of El Nino bringing powerful changes in the climate some 500 years ago. Even led to the demise pre-Columbian Inca, Moche and other pre-Columbian Peruvian cultures.

Major ENSO events were recorded in the years 1790–93, 1828, 1876–78, 1891...

Long before any evidence of human emitted FF C02.






monolith

climber
SF bay area
Jan 28, 2014 - 11:57pm PT
The Chief can't even find a 'skeptic' that claims ENSO is causing the warming.

Come on Chief, their are 'skeptics' that claim the warming is all natural.

Please parade them for us.

A little primer for you Chief. ENSO events can also be La-Nina's. Do you know the effect of La-Nina's on the climate?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 29, 2014 - 12:03am PT
Be careful what you ask for... Remember 1983. The Sierra received 310" Feb-May (setting the record for State Recorded Rainfall total at 42.33") as well as Spring of 2010 where during Feb-May time frame, the Sierra received over 345" of snowfall.


Your dogs still need you.


As your KIDS want absolutely nothing to do with your paranoid left wing nazi ass. Still saying a prayer for their dreaded lives with your TARDASS.


Nice.


Another total... FAIL!
dirtbag

climber
Jan 29, 2014 - 01:25am PT
Looks like #1 has been engaged in yet another all day idiot marathon which, of course, he won.
wilbeer

Mountain climber
honeoye falls,ny.greeneck alleghenys
Jan 29, 2014 - 08:10am PT
Credit: wilbeer
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 29, 2014 - 09:16am PT
Holy shet!!!


Here is one for YOUR books and just could be FUKEDWARFDICKEDMENTAL, BRUCE KY'd, WELLBERE, MONO, EDH or even LARRY in disguise.

Certainly if she ran for Pres, you would all be voting for her and her ideology without any hesitation.

Amazingly, she has only been here in the US for 12 years and is still not a legalized US citizen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh7LBtrBq1g#t=162


rick sumner

Trad climber
reno, nevada/ wasilla alaska
Jan 29, 2014 - 09:29am PT
And every week there is another chinese coal fired power plant commissioned to build the components for that solar system Wilbeer. Every month there is another american solar startup declaring bankruptcy by the Obama campaign bundler behind it.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 29, 2014 - 09:36am PT
And every week there is another chinese coal fired power plant commissioned to build the components for that solar system Wilbeer.

Every week, oh MY!

DMT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 29, 2014 - 09:37am PT
Goddamn it RICK!!!


Don't be telling the REST OF THE STORY!!!


That is not part of the truth that is to be told to the aimlessly wandering sheep here as well as all them "Brothers and Sisters" out there.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 29, 2014 - 09:37am PT
Obummers SOTUA last night set off some butt hurt fire works amongst the right wing intelligensia who couldn't fathom the cognitive dissonance of another blast of full arctic air into the gulf of Mexico. Cognitive might be a stretch and no doubt they, like Dick Bumner assume the dissonance part is a result of their profound intuitive skills finely honed by decades of laying drain tile, bootlicking the corporate power structure and searching out wet backs and hippies to ensure there is always someone lesser than them to piss on. Too bad their science learning is a result of creationism and shooting ducks or a more substantive intuitive sense might counter their death spiral into dunning krugger arrogance.

But no, as a work mate of mine recently said "These are not the sort of people who re-visit their decisions". When your self esteem considers humility as an enemy, there is no looking in the mirror. Its a one way street. Double down and die with honor. Above all, do not admit error.

That is a sign of weakness. Just read The fart of War and live your life by it

Keywords:
climate change;temperature records;global warming
[1] The current observed value of the ratio of daily record high maximum temperatures to record low minimum temperatures averaged across the U.S. is about two to one. This is because records that were declining uniformly earlier in the 20th century following a decay proportional to 1/n (n being the number of years since the beginning of record keeping) have been declining less slowly for record highs than record lows since the late 1970s. Model simulations of U.S. 20th century climate show a greater ratio of about four to one due to more uniform warming across the U.S. than in observations. Following an A1B emission scenario for the 21st century, the U.S. ratio of record high maximum to record low minimum temperatures is projected to continue to increase, with ratios of about 20 to 1 by mid-century, and roughly 50 to 1 by the end of the century.

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1029/2009GL040736/abstract
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 29, 2014 - 10:11am PT
Ah, a little behind on the times BRUCEE!

That paper is FIVE years old and does not account for the past year (2013) where LOW temp records outnumbered HIGH temp records in the US.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/weather/2013/12/31/record-cold-temperatures/4264237/

Nice try though. Like WELBEERE, the REST OF THE STORY is withheld and NOT fed to the masses in the feeding trough....





Oh DINGUS... straddle that fence harder would ya.

From one of the AGW propaganda sites...


CHINA & INDIA ARE BUILDING 4 NEW COAL POWER PLANTS – EVERY WEEK

Global demand for coal is expected to grow to 8.9 billion tons by 2016 from 7.9 billion tons this year. China is expected to add about 160 new coal-fired plants to the 620 operating now, within four years. During that period, India will add more than 46 plants.
http://www.thegwpf.org/china-india-building-4-coal-power-plants-week/

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 29, 2014 - 10:21am PT
Oh you mean the past couple of months? I'm confused.... is that weather or is that climate?

It dosn't matter when it is published, if the theoretical premiss is still representative of the current reality, then it is valid. You can ask Copernicus about that.

But we know you won't. That involves re-visiting your decisions.

But what about Dick? He is a studious student of science. He knows well that by his chosen ethical standards he must always consider the weight of evidence and be willing always to reverse his belief if the facts support it. He has devoted a considerable portion of his semi retired life to the judicious study of reality by the best system known. What would his professional associations ethical standards committee have to say about his relentlessly irrational parsing of the facts? Perhaps they are napping now that the bar is closed for an hour.
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 29, 2014 - 10:44am PT
While we're waiting for Rick, here's a funny story....

When I was in highschool I had a chum named Richard. Nice guy, lots of fun etc but when we graduated he went his way and I went mine, mostly into the construction business with my brother. One day, after a spell of dirt bagging off climbing I came crawling back to the job site looking for employment. My Brother says "Sorry Bub, some other guy took your job. He says he knows you... his names Dick". A bit pissed, I went off to find him laying the drain tile I should be doing and lo and behold - Its Richard! A nicer guy couldn't have stolen my job.

I go back to Doug and say" His name is Rich and always has been - why'd you call him Dick?"

He laughs and says " Cuz he don't know dick all!"
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 29, 2014 - 10:45am PT
Thats right Sketchy, thats all weather.

Then when you list it all together over a longer period of time and it forms a pattern, we call that climate
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