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Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 2, 2014 - 11:42am PT
Once again The Chuff exposes his intolerant underbelly. Once again anyone even slightly interested in researching personality characteristics will quickly discover - and easily verify - that a driving trait of authoritarians is intolerance.

Now before Rick and all the other RWA personalities point a finger of hypocrisy at all us normal people, lets look at the facts, Chuff being a shining example:

1) He is strongly anti science, anti intellectual. He holds the pusuit of these values as fundamentally immoral. There is no ambiguity in this statement and anyone willing to mine the data will confirm this. All of the other RWA's here are not nearly as bald faced about it as Chuff but generally speaking, they also adhere to Chuffian Darwinism.

2) He ( and they ) also assume and will accuse us normal people of being equally intolerant of "spirituality" or "religion", take your pick. In order to confirm this, he will attempt to explain that criticism indicates intolerance. No - scratch that. He will not explain anything, he will only assert, which is a prime indicator of intolerance.

Anyway, it hardly matters what total nonsense oozes out of his mouth, the important thing is that if anyone were to mine the data, it will be evident that whatever our criticisms, our ideology always leaves accommodation for the spiritual and the religious to pursue their beliefs all they want. We do not hold the spiritual or religious as inferior in morality. Their behavior, like ours, may qualify as either moral or immoral based on the effect it has, but it is not based on their spiritual beliefs of the existence of an unquantifiable power. We don't care what you believe in, we only care how you behave.


I would like to thank the Chuff for leading the discussion into what on the surface seemingly has nothing to do with climate science - abortion, sex education and male virility. Of course it has nothing to do with it, but it has everything to do with the politics of anti intellectualism and anti science.



The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:32pm PT
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC

Jan 2, 2014 - 08:42am PT
Once again The Chuff exposes his intolerant underbelly. Once again anyone even slightly interested in researching personality characteristics will quickly discover - and easily verify - that a driving trait of authoritarians is intolerance.

Now before Rick and all the other RWA personalities point a finger of hypocrisy at all us normal people, lets look at the facts, Chuff being a shining example:

1) He is strongly anti science, anti intellectual. He holds the pusuit of these values as fundamentally immoral. There is no ambiguity in this statement and anyone willing to mine the data will confirm this. All of the other RWA's here are not nearly as bald faced about it as Chuff but generally speaking, they also adhere to Chuffian Darwinism.

2) He ( and they ) also assume and will accuse us normal people of being equally intolerant of "spirituality" or "religion", take your pick. In order to confirm this, he will attempt to explain that criticism indicates intolerance. No - scratch that. He will not explain anything, he will only assert, which is a prime indicator of intolerance.

Anyway, it hardly matters what total nonsense oozes out of his mouth, the important thing is that if anyone were to mine the data, it will be evident that whatever our criticisms, our ideology always leaves accommodation for the spiritual and the religious to pursue their beliefs all they want. We do not hold the spiritual or religious as inferior in morality. Their behavior, like ours, may qualify as either moral or immoral based on the effect it has, but it is not based on their spiritual beliefs of the existence of an unquantifiable power. We don't care what you believe in, we only care how you behave.


I would like to thank the Chuff for leading the discussion into what on the surface seemingly has nothing to do with climate science - abortion, sex education and male virility. Of course it has nothing to do with it, but it has everything to do with the politics of anti intellectualism and anti science


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Which eventually turns into this....














BITCHEN!
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:36pm PT
Well we know that Chuff won't but perhaps Rick Sumner or someone else who pretends to be more reasonable can refute it.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:38pm PT
More of the same from BRUCEE KY BOY... nice.







Keep it up BRUCEE BOY!!
Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:46pm PT
I'd be really interested in how Rick, Sketch, Ron, TGT etc can explain how and why they are perfectly comfortable aligning themselves in tribal allegiance with The Chuff. We know you share his values, but do you also respect his behavior?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:50pm PT
New Years eve with BRUCEE BOY and his Scientism Psycho Babbling buds...


Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:56pm PT
Stoney, passive aggressive silence from Ricky, Sketch and gang......

Belligerent, obnoxious unabashed aggression from the Chuff......


All systems normal!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 12:59pm PT
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:08pm PT
...and then he wonders why I'd classify him as one of the nutjobs. His plot is the equivalent of what The Chief has to offer to the discussion as posted above.

What we have to offer is no different than anything any of you WARMIST SCIENTISM ECO GOTTA HAVE THE GOV'T SAVE THE WORLD FREAKS do.

Absolutely no different EDH.





COLD TEMP RECORDS through out NA are falling as each day passes. Not a peep about it from you people.

But had this been in the reverse, that is all we would be reading.



Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
Bruce,
you missed the plot the Sketch offered, reblogged, that takes some undefined time series and extrapolates it for decades into the future...

characteristically, he provides no links and no citation for the graph, and more, he couldn't reproduce the graph himself, couldn't download the data and even make the plots, couldn't use any of the the Excel spreadsheet functions to project the time series, couldn't perform the simplest analysis to indicate how good the functions reproduce the data, couldn't put an uncertainty on the extrapolations

BUT HE DOESN'T CARE

all he is trying to do is to troll what he considers to be an advocacy orthodoxy... he fashions himself to be an iconoclast, no doubt...

...and then he wonders why I'd classify him as one of the nutjobs. His plot is the equivalent of what The Chief has to offer to the discussion as posted above.

Bruce Kay

Gym climber
BC
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:22pm PT
yawn. Too bad its raining out.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:28pm PT
Blame that on AGW BRUCEEE BOY.^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^


Come on... be consistent.


EDH:

instead you get to have fun photo-bombing the thread with what you take to be a humorous retort that avoids your having to put anything substantive to the thread.

Of course EDH, none of the people on this thread that side with you, they could never do such a thing. Never.



Oh how the hypocrisy continues to flooooooooooooooow!
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:40pm PT
More buffoon babble that shows just how this entire AGW agenda is complete political hysteria based ideological bullshet...

“Looking at the United States of America, the IPCC clearly warned that unchecked global warming will lead to reduced snow pack in the western mountains, critically reducing access to water, which is our lifeblood.”
Senator Barbara Boxer (D)


Yet REALITY shows different:

BEGINNING about 1,100 years ago, what is now California baked in two droughts, the first lasting 220 years and the second 140 years. Each was much more intense than the mere six-year dry spells that afflict modern California from time to time, new studies of past climates show. The findings suggest, in fact, that relatively wet periods like the 20th century have been the exception rather than the rule in California for at least the last 3,500 years, and that mega-droughts are likely to recur.

The evidence for the big droughts comes from an analysis of the trunks of trees that grew in the dry beds of lakes, swamps and rivers in and adjacent to the Sierra Nevada, but died when the droughts ended and the water levels rose. Immersion in water has preserved the trunks over the centuries.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/19/science/severe-ancient-droughts-a-warning-to-california.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm

Sketch

Trad climber
H-ville
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:41pm PT
interesting response, Sketch,

1) you could have provided the citations,

2) you could have simply just downloaded the data, redone the analysis and plotted the data with your projections and challenged a response,

instead you get to have fun photo-bombing the thread with what you take to be a humorous retort that avoids your having to put anything substantive into the thread.

But then, I wouldn't suspect anything better from you.
Carry on.

Eddie... Eddie... Eddie

Did I hurt your feelings?

I ask because your whining about my behavior indicates that's the case.

Butt hurt is no way to start the new year.

It's not healthy or productive.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:44pm PT
There he is... our dear SANDIA Welfare salary based G-MAN FUKEDINTHEHEADMENTALIST.


The lead HYPOCRITE here. Worse than BASE ever could be.



Love it. Just love it

"Winter Northern Hemisphere" and "western mountains" are regional nuances that apparently escape the vocabulary of The Chief...


Thorough reading inabilities AGAIN has passed your persistent ineptness to clearly focus on the rest of the story, EDH. Perfecto.

BEGINNING about 1,100 years ago, what is now California baked in two droughts, the first lasting 220 years and the second 140 years. Each was much more intense than the mere six-year dry spells that afflict modern California from time to time, new studies of past climates show. The findings suggest, in fact, that relatively wet periods like the 20th century have been the exception rather than the rule in California for at least the last 3,500 years, and that mega-droughts are likely to recur.

The evidence for the big droughts comes from an analysis of the trunks of trees that grew in the dry beds of lakes, swamps and rivers in and adjacent to the Sierra Nevada, but died when the droughts ended and the water levels rose. Immersion in water has preserved the trunks over the centuries.
http://www.nytimes.com/1994/07/19/science/severe-ancient-droughts-a-warning-to-california.html?pagewanted=all&src=pm


EDH: (you won't even understand the question)

Why should I ED, you never do. Never.
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:52pm PT
No EDH, I have no problem accepting the reality of what is now.

But you surely do.



And what is even more delusional, you come on here and claim you and your science can remedy and control it.

You can't even control what is going to happen tomorrow or next month or even next year let alone in 100 years.


But keep up the continued FEAR propaganda. It is what you at the DOE do well.

Job security at it's best. Yup....

PS: I notice EDH that you do not apply all your PhD Physic's talents full-time to this CC research. You remain in your position at the DOE (ooops sorry, contracted out to the DOE) that has absolutely nothing to do directly with CC research. And, it is a perm G-Man based career funded by no other than the tax payers of this country.

Gotta give you credit on not throwing that secure job away for the fortune telling one of CC Research.
Norton

Social climber
the Wastelands
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:58pm PT


I love this thread

everyone entertained?


Ed, seriously

as Sarah Palin would ask...

Why Bother?
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:59pm PT
Why Bother?


Norton.. another hypocrite.


What are you doing here... oh.
Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan
Jan 2, 2014 - 01:59pm PT
It was YOUR SCIENCE Eeee Deee Aitch!!!! That discovered those droughts, damn you!!!!

Bwahahahahahaha. Carbon dating these tree stumps in the river bottom (using nuclear science, mind you) then correlating those readings with thousands of other over-lapping dating else where (read - hundreds of field 'workers' taking thousands of measurements), normalizing the noise and smoothing out the discrepancies (using statical analysis to make sense of all these numbers) to paint what we think is a fairly accurate picture of paleoclimate conditions here in California and elsewhere on the west coast.

That's YOUR SCIENCE EEeee Deee Aitch! And a troglodyte is is (laughable) trying to hammer you with your own science whilst labeling your science inaccurate and a big lie.

That's some funny sh#t right there. This science is perfectly acceptable to the professional military man if and when it suits his ideology. But as soon as it strays from his agreement, then he rejects the science and blames you personally.


Got it.

DMT
The Chief

climber
From the Land of the Mongols
Jan 2, 2014 - 02:02pm PT
What's even funnier shet Dingus is your last post on this thread..


Dingus Milktoast

Gym climber
U.N. Ambassador, Crackistan

Jan 1, 2014 - 09:01pm PT
Nope no dead reckoning involved in that rescue. Science? The hell you say! Those guys were infinite. Too bad half of their infinite asses were dead within 16 months of their rescue, in the trenches of Europe at the hands of YOUR MILITARY THE CHIEF.

Therefore your climate denial is crap!

Nice.

DMT

Again.

Fence straddling Bullshet.


But ya gotta do what ya gotta do to look good for the tribe.
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